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Taxes in America: how much longer do we tolerate taxes like these?

Temlakos~POTL~PWCM~JLA~☆ 2012/07/04 18:38:36
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"Nothing is certain but death and taxes." But today we celebrate a time when Americans said they were done tolerating taxes like these:

The Molasses Act
of 1733, imposed taxes on imports of molasses, which were used
primarily for the production of rum. This tax was not passed to raise
revenue but to regulate trade. It was repealed in 1764.

The Sugar Act of 1764 is closely associated with the Molasses Act but it was a revenue raising tax that was also known as the American Revenue Act or the American Duties Act. It was repealed in 1766.

The Stamp Act of 1765 taxed every single piece of paper the Colonists used. It was repealed in 1766.

The Townshend Act of 1767 was a series of five Acts of indirect taxes placed on paper, paint, lead, glass and tea that were imported into the colonies. The implementation of this tax led to the occupation of Boston in 1768 and the subsequent Boston Massacre of 1770.

The Tea Act of 1773, contrary to popular belief, did not impose taxes but undercut the business of local merchants. (It did this by giving favored tax
treatment to the British East India Company.) The Tea Act is commonly
associated with the Boston Tea Party.

So what about it? Why do we tolerate a progressive income tax? But our Supreme Court just said that Congress can tax anything! So what do we do about it?
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  • mal 2012/07/04 19:10:40
    Fight! This is the sort of thing we fought against! If we don't fight now, wh...
    mal
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    taxes and communism are the big problem. vote obama out people
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  • Ben 2012/07/19 09:35:49
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    Ben
    +1
    Oh I wish UK taxes were as low as yours!
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  • Temlako... Ben 2012/07/19 12:32:41
    Temlakos~POTL~PWCM~JLA~☆
    You know how to make that happen. The way you did in the 1980s with Margaret Thatcher.
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  • Ben Temlako... 2012/07/19 13:02:55
    Ben
    +1
    Ah dear old Maggie, the very definition of 'both a blessing and curse!'
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  • Old Timer 2012/07/09 16:39:50
    Fight! This is the sort of thing we fought against! If we don't fight now, wh...
    Old Timer
    +1
    BEST WAY TO FIGHT THIS SCUMBAG IS TO "VOTE HIM OUT"
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  • Aqua Surf 2012/07/09 03:30:29 (edited)
    Fight! This is the sort of thing we fought against! If we don't fight now, wh...
    Aqua Surf
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    More taxes and STILL NO COST OF LIVING INCREASE since the Marxist took office. Seniors are cutting their pills into QUARTERS now instead of halves, not paying all their bills and eating less. You see old stooped seniors greeting other poor people as they walk into WalMart. Obama and his gangsters hate everyone now, except their own. Of course.
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  • HOMBRE 2012/07/06 20:35:55
    Fight! This is the sort of thing we fought against! If we don't fight now, wh...
    HOMBRE
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    The Obama Government's Plan to Seize Private Retirement Accounts, The new tax that Judge Roberts opened the door to. continues..

    The Federal Reserve and The Treasury Department, need your Retirement Accounts.

    China No longer buys our Treasury (debt) Bonds, the Feds are Forced to Buy Over 61% of Unsold Treasury Bonds. The Treasury Department needs New Buyers... You! The Equity in IRA's & 401k's, will keep the System from Total Collapse!

    The Supreme Court's ruling on Obama Care, has Opened the Door for more Socialistic Government Programs. Discover the New Steps that have been taken toward Nationalizing IRA's & 401k's!

    Discover:

    ✓ Who's behind the Plan

    ✓ The New Proposed Legislation

    ✓ Who will be in charge of the equity

    ✓ What States are already in the works

    ✓ What will they do with Your IRA's & 401k's
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  • Leasheryn/Lady Willpower 2012/07/06 01:52:39
    Fight! This is the sort of thing we fought against! If we don't fight now, wh...
    Leasheryn/Lady Willpower
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    It's been a good long time since we've had real representation in our government. It's about time we sent them a message that we will no longer tolerate the oppressive taxes they have levied against us.
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  • texasred 2012/07/06 00:58:43
    Fight! This is the sort of thing we fought against! If we don't fight now, wh...
    texasred
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    Unfortunately, I think it may come to that.
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  • WhereIsAmerica? ~PWCM~JLA 2012/07/05 23:55:36
    Fight! This is the sort of thing we fought against! If we don't fight now, wh...
    WhereIsAmerica? ~PWCM~JLA
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    cookie
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  • ScottyG - Faqueue 2012/07/05 19:22:30
    Fight! This is the sort of thing we fought against! If we don't fight now, wh...
    ScottyG - Faqueue
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    I don't tolerate them now. I use my tax exempt status for purchases on large items. I buy a lot out of state too. And for now, all I pay income tax on is investments.

    If one is smart enough, there are ways around everything, and you can still be legal doing it.
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  • Not-A-RINO 2012/07/05 18:58:43
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    Not-A-RINO
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    High taxes will run abated as long as we have big government liberals and clueless people who think that higher taxes are paid by everyone else. The taxes and heavy regulations will increase as long as the losers, half-wits, Progressives and the terminally apathetic continue to vote for Democrats who have no idea what the term "fiscally responsible" means. Trying to teach a Democrat to be fiscally responsible is as easy as teaching a goldfish to sing like Andrea Bocelli.

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  • morris44 Not-A-RINO 2012/07/06 18:23:20
    morris44
    And your example of fiscal conservative republicans is...?
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  • jeepster4 2012/07/05 18:39:33
    Undecided
    jeepster4
    You have representation. You continue to be a minority in American society and will continue to be a minority. Your only hope for change is to convince the majority to vote for libertarian wingnuts. Your few successes have occurred only through voter suppression by one means or an other.
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  • Gracie - Proud Conservative 2012/07/05 16:19:34
    Fight! This is the sort of thing we fought against! If we don't fight now, wh...
    Gracie - Proud Conservative
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    We have to get the tax recipients over to the side of the tax payers or we're doomed.
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  • Clyde 2012/07/05 14:55:59
    Fight! This is the sort of thing we fought against! If we don't fight now, wh...
    Clyde
    +1
    Yes, are founders revolted over much much less.
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  • Artist 2012/07/05 12:51:53
    Fight! This is the sort of thing we fought against! If we don't fight now, wh...
    Artist
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    Repeal obamatax and repeal the Supreme Court while we're at it!
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  • Cyan9 2012/07/05 12:13:02
    Take it. We at least *have* representation.
    Cyan9
    +1
    That tax burden in this country is at a 60 year low, one of the main reasons for our debt problems today. All this tax talk is crazy because with all the new deductions, the payroll tax cut, the relief from the 2009 stimulus your taxes went down over the past four years, not up.
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  • TheTailor Cyan9 2012/07/05 12:30:22
    TheTailor
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    It doesn't matter if taxes are at a 60 year low, taxes are still too high, with local state and federal taxes we are paying about 50%. The debt is high because of spending, not because of low taxes. There isn't any relief when the federal government is deficit spending, it increases what we pay as now there is interest to pay.
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  • Cyan9 TheTailor 2012/07/05 13:05:48
    Cyan9
    +1
    I'm quite aware how interest works. The debt is caused by two main problems. In the short term, elevated and persistent unemployment has dramatically increased spending through benefits while lowering the number paying taxes. In the long run, our aging entitlement programs will break without reform while our tax code is not generating enough revenue. Also, that 50% figure is way too high: programs break reform tax code generating revenue 50 figure high
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  • TheTailor Cyan9 2012/07/05 13:49:22
    TheTailor
    I know what I pay in taxes, and the 50% figure is accurate. That by the way doesn't cover all the smaller taxes like what's on your phone and electric bills, sales taxes, gas taxes and of course many many more.

    You can put lipstick on the pig if you want, but when 45% of taxes collected are spent on interest to the debt, SPENDING IS THE PROBLEM, get a f*cking clue.
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  • mich52 TheTailor 2012/07/05 14:04:25
    mich52
    +1
    Federal spending

    The problem with the interest on our debt is the GOP own 3/4's of it....
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  • TheTailor mich52 2012/07/05 15:24:01
    TheTailor
    +2
    Cutting taxes doesn't increase debt, SPENDING increases debt. The red portion of the bar aren't due to anything but "progressive" deficit spending since Jan 2007. Further, to imply that the wars were Republican in nature is a faslehood, both parties approved the war efforts.

    Again, you can put lipstick on a pig, but it's still ugly. Just like the fact that since Jan 2007 nearly $7 TRILLION has been spent IN DEFICIT, all under Democratic control.
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  • mich52 TheTailor 2012/07/05 17:03:07
    mich52
    Wrong cutting taxes does add to the deficit in lost revenue.. The Iraqi War was started on false intell from the Bush admin... Since 2007 Bush never vetoed a spending bill and we had a little recession you might recall.. Do you understand what happens in a recesssion? Tax revenue falls and spending increases..
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  • mich52 Cyan9 2012/07/05 14:01:06
    mich52
    +1
    Pretty sad how Conservatives never like facts... I agree with you 100% when it comes to the fact that taxes are actually low which is another reason why I have such reservations in regards to the tea party and its timing of becoming popular only after a Black man is elected to the WH...
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  • TheTailor mich52 2012/07/05 17:09:54
    TheTailor
    +1
    Race is only important to racists, of course we see this from you often.
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  • mich52 TheTailor 2012/07/05 18:45:25
    mich52
    Not true exposing racist or racism is a nobel duty its when people ignore it or pretend it doesn't exist that is becomes an issue. Which it is in this case when it comes to Conservatives in our Country..
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  • TheTailor mich52 2012/07/05 19:19:29 (edited)
    TheTailor
    +1
    Nope, you are simply race baiting, nobody but racists mention the president's race, which by the way is mixed, presuming race per se exists, which of course it doesn't per the Human Genome Project.
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  • mich52 TheTailor 2012/07/05 19:51:35
    mich52
    Wrong as usual for you Cons. What difference does his being mix-race matter? None unless you make it an issue like you did..
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  • TheTailor mich52 2012/07/05 19:53:37
    TheTailor
    +2
    You played the race card, I simply threw it back in your face, and as I said, race doesn't exist, see the Human Genome Project.
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  • Clyde Cyan9 2012/07/05 14:57:13
    Clyde
    Cough cough....that sounds like a generous application of bovine scatology! ;)
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  • Cyan9 Clyde 2012/07/05 15:57:04
    Cyan9
    +1
    Excuse me for being truthful: excuse truthful
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  • Clyde Cyan9 2012/07/05 16:11:31
    Clyde
    +1
    You may think you are being truthful and you might be, but that does not necessarily and in this case does not make you accurate. We are not at a 60 year low.
    truthful necessarily case accurate 60 year
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  • Cyan9 Clyde 2012/07/05 16:26:57
    Cyan9
    +1
    When you look at total dollar yes. We are a wealthier nation though. You notice how Heritage doesn't give you the breakdown in percentage? Yeah because if it did it would show we are being taxed at the lowest PERCENT since the early 50s. like every other study: http://www.taxpolicycenter.or... breakdown percentage yeah taxed lowest percent 50s study httpwww taxpolicycenter
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  • Clyde Cyan9 2012/07/05 16:45:25
    Clyde
    Yes, and you did not qualify your original statement and we are paying more in taxes even when adjusted for inflation.
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  • TheTailor Clyde 2012/07/05 17:34:05
    TheTailor
    +1
    He seems to think he can put across that 'total' taxes are taxes on individuals.
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  • Clyde TheTailor 2012/07/05 17:41:53
    Clyde
    +1
    Well yea, if you calculate the real tax burden with all the fees and hidden taxes it is close to 50% as you say. And the more obama grows the government that will only increase.
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  • TheTailor Cyan9 2012/07/05 17:30:25
    TheTailor
    But being taxed at a lower rate is because of Bush and the Republicans, not Obama. Let's not forget that the Bush cuts are to end in January 2013.
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  • morris44 Clyde 2012/07/06 18:26:21
    morris44
    Yes. Ever since Reagan cut the top rate from 74% to 28%. The shift in burden has gone to the regular household.
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  • Clyde morris44 2012/07/06 18:31:29
    Clyde
    No it hasn't, because when he did that tax revenues grew.
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  • morris44 Clyde 2012/07/06 19:44:22
    morris44
    Yeah. keep believing that one.

    http://www.econdataus.com/tax...

    Please. It is finally time to get through all the bull and realize that:
    1. prosperity for middle american was never better than the 50's and 60's
    2. companies at this time paid out pensions
    3. only 1 family member had to work
    4. we had the best infrastructure in the world, schools, road, parks
    5. the tax burden was less on the middle class and more on the top 2%
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