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Talking about immigration status and how medias and people like Lou Dobb are taking America back to Hitler idiology, with regard to the word " ILLAGAL ALIEN" , i like to share this article with u and get ur input about the impact of those words in us.

nas 2009/02/28 13:56:55
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Last I Checked, A Human Could Not Be "Illegal"
by Melissa M. Chase
What's Wrong With "Illegal Alien"?

It often bothers me to see the reference all over the media of "illegal aliens". How can a person, a human being, be illegal? In the very sense of the word, it cannot be applied as a noun to define a person. The word "illegal" comes from a 1538 Latin adjective and is presently defined by Webster's dictionary as an adjective. I already know the "other" side of the argument and I know that "alien" is a noun and can be "applied" to non-native USC's. After all, the term alien is at least given a definition in the INA. Illegal Alien, on the other hand, is not.

Ironically, the term "Illegal Alien" is in fact an oxymoron, a double negative if you will. According to the INA, an "alien" is "any person not a citizen or national of the United States," so therefore an "illegal alien" is someone who is not legally "not a citizen or national of the United States," which would mean that person must be a citizen of the United States.

In any event, if you are using the term "Illegal Alien" or "Illegal Immigrant" as if they were proper nouns, you are criminalizing the person rather than the actual act of the person. Words matter. So much of the immigration debate is based solely on the underlying cultural climate and attitude and the way that the media portrays an issue. Words set the tone. Although the use of the term "illegal" in reference to non-citizens within the United States is widespread, it does not make it right nor does it make it all right.

The acceptance that a human being can be "illegal" is a dangerous road to tread down that can only lead to xenophobia and breed violence and contempt for fundamental civil rights. The term "illegal alien" has no legal meaning, is pejorative and carries negative connotations. Nativists will argue that we are being to extreme and that if "they" came here illegally then they are "illegal". This is a typical response from someone who is uneducated and simply pre-judging (hence their "prejudice") the situation. Regardless of a person's immigration status, whether they are in status, out of status, EWI, etc., one thing they are not is "illegal". Anytime a label is pejorative label is placed on people it is designed to reduce people to non-beings that are excluded from our conscience and that don't deserve any constitutional or civil rights. The last time I checked, our recently immigrated forefathers had the forethought to include in the Declaration of Independence "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness".

Over time we have unfortunately seen many groups of human beings demoted to "them" where the rest of mankind has decided to resort to an "us" vs. "them" mentality. The list includes blacks, homosexuals, women, children, Japanese, Communists, Muslims, Jews, and others. If an area becomes inhabited by what society has accepted as "them", it becomes acceptable to pass laws to drive them from their homes, to strip their civil rights, to rip families apart, to detain them, to intern them, to torture them, to destroy them, to kill them. This never happens overnight. In Nazi Germany, the first thing the Nazis did to further their goal was to dehumanize the Jews and other targets, calling them names referring to trash, insects and animals. Many books have been written on the dehumanization of people and how words matter.

The propaganda of the "us" vs. "them" is slowly pushed through media and public policy and exploits people's insecurities that are looking for someone to blame. Someone has to "pay" for what extremists chose to do on September 11, 2001. How has it gone from seeking out the terrorists to arresting the Hispanic guy who has never had any contact with ICE before and was simply buying coffee at a 7-11 while on his way to the hospital where his 4 year old daughter was receiving chemo?
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/02/...

What Options Do we Have Then?

What words should you use? Typically many immigration attorneys use "foreign national" to generally refer to a non-USC. Or hey there's an idea, how about "non-USC"? At least it's not "them illegals". If someone is not work authorized, say they are an "unauthorized worker". If someone entered without inspection, we have an abbreviation - "EWI". If someone is out of status, they are "out of status". If someone is unlawfully present, they are "unlawfully present" or "ULP".

Besides, when it comes down to it, even our founding fathers would have been called "illegal" if we followed today's xenophobic trend. Take that you extreme Nativists! http://www.nytimes.com/2006/12/27/opinion/27hogeland.html?_r=1

It is important to take a stand even in what seems like these "small" issues, because small issues lead to large issues. To quote Pastor Martin Niemöller "In Germany they first came for the Communists, and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist. Then they came for the Jews, and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Jew. Then they came for the trade unionists, and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a trade unionist. Then they came for the Catholics, and I didn't speak up because I was a Protestant. Then they came for me - and by that time no one was left to speak up". So, like the song goes "Don't Believe the Hype", and speak up - be a voice for the voiceless.



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About The Author

Melissa M. Chase is an immigration attorney at Szabo, Zelnick & Erickson, P.C., in Northern VA. She graduated from Regent University School of Law in VA in 2000 and admitted in Oklahoma as well as the Northern & Western Districts of Oklahoma & the 10th Circuit Ct. of Appeals and the Southern District of Texas. She is a member of the OBA and American Immigration Lawyers Association. She is the author of "The ICE Storm: Employer Compliance and Worksite Enforcement" that were published at The Oklahoma Bar Journal on February 14, 2009.

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  • LDBeyes 2009/02/28 14:04:44
    None of the above
    LDBeyes
    +13
    According to U.S. laws and Wikpedia, I think they have defined it perfectly!

    In U.S. law, an alien is "any person not a citizen or national of the United States."The U.S. Government's use of alien dates back to 1798, when it was used in the Alien and Sedition Acts. U.S. law makes a clear distinction between aliens and immigrants by defining immigrants as a subset of aliens. Although U.S. law provides no overarching explicit definition of the term "illegal alien," the term is used in many statutes and elsewhere (e.g., court cases, executive orders). U.S. law also uses the term "unauthorized alien."

    U.S. immigration laws do not refer to illegal immigrants, but in common parlance the term "illegal immigrant" is often used to refer to any illegal alien.

    Illegal immigration refers to immigration across national borders in a way that violates the immigration laws of the destination country. In politics, the term may imply a larger set of social issues and time constraints with disputed consequences in areas such as economy, social welfare, education, health care, slavery, prostitution, legal protections, voting rights, public services, and human rights. Conversely, Illegal emigration refers to unlawfully leaving a country.

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  • Cinnuint™ 2009/04/19 03:29:31
    Do you disagree with the autor? Why?
    Cinnuint™
  • rebmama 2009/04/07 22:44:54
    Do you disagree with the autor? Why?
    rebmama
    +1
    Her semantics are absolutely ridiculous. Alien means foreign. Immigrant is one who migrates (moves) to another place. An alien, or foreigner, can be visiting here legally - proper passport, etc. An immigrant can move to the United States legally, without becoming a citizen, by marrying an American citizen, or just by obtaining a green card (those are legal procedures). An ILLEGAL alien or immigrant is obviously a foreigner who is here UNLAWFULLY. That person has the right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness in his own country, not through sneaking into ours! Furthermore those people are not voiceless: they have very loud mouths, usually full of whining or demands. Her one point with which I can agree is that "illegal alien" has a "negative connotation", as well it should!
  • DJ 2009/03/25 01:05:11
    Undecided
    DJ
    +1
    I just don't understand how someone who is a natural born citizen to the United States of AMERICA how they can stand up for someone who isn't!!! I believe we should take our country back from all them low life jerks so our jobs could go back to the American people. We would see a hell of a drop in the crime rate. However we have to do to take it back then so be it!!!!!
  • Maria 2009/03/20 17:25:47
    All of the above
    Maria
    +1
    dont want drugs smugglers and gang why in America? we don't need this stuff.
  • D 2009/03/18 17:11:10
    None of the above
    D
    Why do we have laws?
  • F-18 IN GOD WE TRUST 2009/03/11 20:15:01
    Do you disagree with the autor? Why?
    F-18 IN GOD WE TRUST
    +2
    Not going to waste my time!!
  • Al C. 2009/03/09 00:33:00 (edited)
    None of the above
    Al C.
    +1
    What's the problem, if they didn't enter the country legally throw thier asses out and lock down the borders!
  • concerned 2009/03/08 16:21:52
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    concerned
    But I do know that illegals have had a lot to do with two major hosipitals within the state of california closing ...I do know that to many visitors are drawing things like section 8 ,,and food stamps ...and afdc,,, if they came here to work than work and stop running up the cost for tax payers ..and as for those that claim they have been here for over five years ..and still not a citzens ..please hurry up and send them back to mexico ...that is to long to be here and still not be a citzen ..
  • flash101 2009/03/08 12:58:14
    Do you disagree with the autor? Why?
    flash101
    How about an ileagley placed alien.Am over welcome guess, mooch, sponge brotherinlaw.simatics. If you don't like it here get out.
  • CopyrightAllInformation Ima... 2009/03/08 11:44:59
    None of the above
    CopyrightAllInformation Images on this non-active account
    Certainly makes sense what the author has written. People are not illegal, but perhaps their actions are.
  • ~Donna~ conspiracy theorist... 2009/03/08 11:42:19
    Do you disagree with the autor? Why?
    ~Donna~ conspiracy theorists don't seem so nutty anymore do they
    Ok, if you want to be here, why not do what you have to do to become a citizen? A good portion of the people coming here are committing crimes against citizens. I guess this should be ok? Don't we have enough problems?
    If I hear "If you want English, press one" one more time I am going to go off. I have family that helped build this country, going back to 1770. They came over on boats and did their share. That is the difference between the immigrants of yesteryear and the ones today. Our new flock doesn't contribute.
  • Peyoteboy 2009/03/08 06:39:14
  • sissi 2009/03/08 06:34:58
    None of the above
    sissi
    +3
    All I have to say is if you want to come to the USA it's simple just follow the rules, Get in line, Learn English, Fill out the paper work, Get a job, Pay Taxes, and for G-D sake Speak in English, Really we wouldn't be having this discussion if People just followed the Rules.
  • Dunderhead - Domestic Terro... 2009/03/08 05:30:11
    None of the above
    Dunderhead - Domestic Terrorist
    +2
    Consider the source ... an immigration attorney ... looking for a hair to split.

    source immigration attorney hair split
  • Marty9957 2009/03/06 23:57:32
    None of the above
    Marty9957
    +1
    I agree with the term, illegal alien. The way I interpret it is this, I break it down into two different parts. The first part implies that the person came across our border illegally which is correct. In the second part, alien, I take this to mean a person not having been born an American citizen yet here anyway. So you see, the term is quite correct and should be used more often to tell it like it is.

    This is what the dictionary tells me.

    il⋅le⋅gal   /ɪˈligəl/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [i-lee-guhl] Show IPA
    –adjective 1. forbidden by law or statute.
    2. contrary to or forbidden by official rules, regulations, etc.: The referee ruled that it was an illegal forward pass.

    –noun 3. Informal. illegal alien.



    al⋅ien   /ˈeɪlyən, ˈeɪliən/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [eyl-yuhn, ey-lee-uhn] Show IPA
    –noun 1. a resident born in or belonging to another country who has not acquired citizenship by naturalization (distinguished from citizen ).
    2. a foreigner.
    3. a person who has been estranged or excluded.
    4. a creature from outer space; extraterrestrial.

    –adjective 5. residing under a government or in a country other than that of one's birth without having or obtaining the status of citizenship there.
  • Fidelito 2009/03/02 12:52:48
    None of the above
    Fidelito
    +2
    Well, as a Latino I'm for legal immigration from anywhere. I have a problem with illegal immigration, and people who (politicians) seem to not want to differentiate between the two. Maybe, because of pressure from pro-illegal Latino groups that have voted or given money to those groups (Democrats and Republicans).
  • Marty9957 Fidelito 2009/03/07 00:00:36
    Marty9957
    +1
    I am of Mexican decent as well and totally concur with your comment. Tell it like it is and fix the problem.
  • Vincent... Fidelito 2009/03/29 22:18:15
    Vincent Haan
    I dont have a problem with people coming into our country and that thay speak the language of that country. If I go into another country for a job I must speak that language. Thay should also gain enployment so thay can take care of there familes. and pay taxes.I dont believe we need to take care and supply hosp care for free and burden the tax payer. I am sure you will not agree with me. but that is what I believe
  • Fidelito Vincent... 2009/03/30 12:25:57
    Fidelito
    +1
    I agree with you, but not the politicians in power. My question is; why is the Federal government so hellbent on legallizing the milllions of illegals in the United States?
  • Vincent... Fidelito 2009/05/18 13:41:31
    Vincent Haan
    +1
    Hi Fedelito. To answer your ? We have elected the cream of the crop thay are full of knowledge but no common sence. Thay dont understand that when there country in having problems with the economy. Thay bring in the illegals in to make it worse.That is one reason why the USA IS GOING DOWN THE TOLET
  • Amy Fidelito 2009/05/21 03:06:04 (edited)
    Amy
    The # 1 reason Democrats are hellbent on legalizing the millions of illegals in the US!!

    My opinion:
    When they are allowed to be here: they feel that they will have millions of automatic votes for them during elections! Who would really vote for the ones that wanted to send them back?

    I am not sure of the Republican reason!

    This was just my two sense! :-)
  • Fidelito Amy 2009/05/21 12:40:54
    Fidelito
    +1
    Well, you are right about the Democrats reasons. The Republicans reason is that; they are looking to provide future cheap labor for the global corporations looking for cheap labor in the United States.
  • Amy Fidelito 2009/05/21 22:37:47
    Amy
    Good one, that is very true!! Didn't think of it though!! Thank you!!
    true
  • Brian Kemp (oYo) 2009/03/01 15:22:09
    Do you disagree with the autor? Why?
    Brian Kemp (oYo)
    +3
    First, a word can't be oxymoronic and a double negative, since a double negative means both words mean a negative thing and can't have opposite meanings. Second, illegal alien doesn't mean a person is illegally not a citizen, it means a person is not a U.S. citizen and is in the country illegally. It's not that difficult of a concept to understand. Every country in the world has the right to secure its borders, just like every person has the right to secure their home. By not securing borders, we invite all sorts of illegal activites, whether they are smuggling or outright invasion.
  • Radlad 2009/03/01 11:02:05
    Do you disagree with the autor? Why?
    Radlad
    +1
    I could care less if the proper terminology bothers you, lady. I don't know what communist..er...sorry...brain dead liberal text you checked with. If you didn't come here legally........you are an illegal alien...................

    illegal alien is not an oxymoron or double negative. An alien is someone that is not native or citizen of the USA. However, there is a legal way to enter the USA. If you do not come here legally, then you are here illegally. Not a citizen you are an alien you did not come here legally . Not a legal alien then by definition you are an illegal alien. You can try to twist the lingo all you want. If you are here and didn't get here legally by definition you are an illegal alien..............

    Anyone that comes here by the legal route is an immigrant .

    I don't care how much bovine excrement you sling around just to make yourself feel good and convince yourself of your really low intellectual abilities. The bottom line is this. We have borders, there is a legal way to get into the USA. Since there is a legal way and if you decide to enter America any other way. You have broken the law You're here illegally and you are an alien. Yes, I realize I keep making the same point. Only because you are so pigheaded and liberal you keep ignoring that which is the all important point, that any rational thinking intelligent person would acknowledge and realize it is the end of the conversation....................
  • John "By God" American 2009/03/01 04:09:05
    Do you disagree with the autor? Why?
    John "By God" American
    +1
    This is precisely the problem... an attorney. She's bogging down the entire point by whimpering about language and terms. Basically, she's protecting her job.
  • Sam 2009/03/01 01:39:12
    Do you disagree with the autor? Why?
    Sam
    +2
    The author is obviously an open boarder advocate. Anyone here illegally should be deported, regardless of what country they are from. You can split hairs and call them whatever you may but just send them home. These immagration attorney's couldn't care less about the law.
  • Spizzzo BN-0 2009/03/01 01:24:11 (edited)
    Do you agree with the autor? Why?
    Spizzzo BN-0
    +1
    I agree. This issue is not nearly as one-sided as it may often appear. I recently learned some interesting things:

    1. A majority of aliens in the U.S. who are "out of status" did NOT get here by sneaking across the border--most entered legally, but fell out of status after being here a while, for a variety of reasons, some not their fault.

    2. The laws violated by immigrants crossing our borders without proper approval is NOT a criminal law, but a civil one--so it's not even a misdemeanor. It's in the same class as traffic tickets. So, calling them "illegal aliens" makes as much sense as calling those who get traffic tickets "illegal drivers". That is, not much sense.
  • Nunez Cabeza de Vaca 2009/03/01 00:24:45 (edited)
  • bls Nunez C... 2009/03/02 18:34:58
    bls
    +1
    You mean rich white people that want to keep what they earn and not give it away to illegal aliens?
  • Nunez C... bls 2009/03/07 07:08:28
  • bls Nunez C... 2009/03/07 15:56:56
    bls
    I hope the true believers in God manage to find a way to live in a country that was founded on Christian beliefs, while being surrounded by the devil that the left has brought us. Further, I hope that the illegal aliens that came here to support their families are able to return to their broken countries and find a way to live a good life. What we don't want is our country broken because we have given help to everyone in this world, and in return, have been invaded by Godless people that think like you do.
  • Nunez C... bls 2009/03/07 16:34:39 (edited)
  • bls Nunez C... 2009/03/07 19:21:38
    bls
    If you were a true believe in God, you would not have this attitude. Your condescending and sarcastic judgmental opinion is in direct conflict with what you are saying. But I forgive you, and have a Blessed day
  • Nunez C... bls 2009/03/07 20:00:34
  • bls Nunez C... 2009/03/08 02:14:48
    bls
    They don't understand what you are saying because you are acting bad. Nobody wants to be preached at you smearing hate all over. You people need to learn respect and manners. Everybody has an opinion, and you are not going to shove yours down my throat. We have, at this time, civil rights for all. Some of you are whiners and can never be satisfied Nunez. But try and find a better country
  • Nunez C... bls 2009/03/08 02:40:16
  • bls Nunez C... 2009/03/08 02:48:37
    bls
    all your kind knows how to do - name calling and hate mongering and you are just a plain menace. I'm sorry your life is so bad, that you have to get on sites like this and find someone to unload your anger on. Try being happy, and get a life!! Bye Bye Now
  • Vincent... Nunez C... 2009/03/29 22:20:21
    Vincent Haan
    Ii THINK YOU ARE CONFUSED
  • Marty9957 Nunez C... 2009/03/07 00:12:59
    Marty9957
    You have the right idea but you have the wrong party. The ones you describe so eloquently are the elitists which you must be a member of judging by your rhetoric.

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