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Taking a stand for or against health care reform and the public option: Are you for or against?

Gramma Lil October 22, 2009 23:32:54

I just want to know if you are for or against health care reform and the public option. I'd also like to know why you are for or against it. Explain your reasons and please include links to your reason. I would really appreciate some input from both sides of this issue. I am trying to explain it to my 18 year old granddaughter and I want to give her the pros and cons of both sides of this issue so she can choose for herself which side she wants to be on.
Also could you please share this question with your other sodahead friends so I can get as much input as possible.
I am for health care reform w/public option because.......

I am for health care reform w/public option because.......

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I am for health care reform without a public option because......

I am for health care reform without a public option because......

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I am against healthcare reform because......

I am against healthcare reform because......

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This is what I think of health care reform......

This is what I think of health care reform......

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None of the above

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I don't care one way or another because........

I don't care one way or another because........

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I don't feel like explaining but here are some links.....

I don't feel like explaining but here are some links.....

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Undecided

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  • luigi1- in god we trust November 08, 2009 23:47:42
    luigi1- in god we trust

    This is what I think of health care reform......

    this is probably not a good time to be taking on more debts. we have no money coming in while out of control spending is going out.

    something has to give. something will give. we just can't continue to spend like drunken sailors.

    maybe, when the economy bounces back & we have a solid & vibrant tax base.
  • Spizzzo November 06, 2009 08:12:22
    Spizzzo

    I am for health care reform w/public option because.......

    It's the right thing to do and it has the only chance of giving the private insurers some real competition!
  • Pseudonymious Rex October 27, 2009 20:24:21
    Pseudonymious Rex

    I am for health care reform w/public option because.......

    By most metrics a robust public option increases the longevity of the population, decreases the percentage of GDP spent on health care, and increases quality of life.

    The fact that Americans spend more money for their health care and live shorter lives than their European counterparts is a shocking indictment of our current system.
  • Xuthus October 27, 2009 13:06:19
    Xuthus

    I am for health care reform w/public option because.......

    Totally needed.
  • Darling Biscuits October 26, 2009 02:15:38
    Darling Biscuits

    I am for health care reform w/public option because.......

    Insurance companies aren't out to help anyone. They're main goal is to make money. All Americans have the right to decent healthcare.
  • Laneia October 26, 2009 00:51:56
    Laneia

    I am for health care reform w/public option because.......

    Not everyone can afford private health care insurance, or get it throught their place of employment. ER costs for the uninsured have already closed down several hospitals.
  • skull October 25, 2009 00:34:32
    skull

    I am for health care reform w/public option because.......

    Should open more jobs ,because company will not have to pay half. That just one lest thing poor people would have to worry about . I know it the right thing to do..
  • Nevermore. October 24, 2009 08:20:45
    Nevermore.

    I am for health care reform w/public option because.......

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  • Ali ~ In My Heart I Trust ~ October 24, 2009 02:24:20
    Ali ~ In My Heart I Trust ~

    I am for health care reform w/public option because.......

    Truly? I would like universal, single payer health care. Short of that, the public option is the only thing that will keep the insurance companies in line.
  • Cheryl October 24, 2009 01:25:30
    Cheryl

    I am for health care reform w/public option because.......

    I have lived with "universal health care" and without............and I prefer "universal health care"!
  • MindReader October 24, 2009 00:53:01
    MindReader

    I am for health care reform w/public option because.......

    Healthcare is a utility like electrical power. It should be nationalized and regulated as such. health care reform wpublic option healthcare electrical power nationalized regulated
  • mach ~wants some political ... October 23, 2009 17:53:56
    mach ~wants some political sacrifice for a public option~

    I am for health care reform w/public option because.......

    The perception of death panels by government run health care has been dismissed, and it's time to put a stop to insurance company death panels once and for all.
    Ya know, I really hate my job, and to think that I'm indentured to it because my wife and I have preexisting conditions is a farce. So many positives can come from a public option, we'd be fools to pass it up!
  • Peggy October 23, 2009 17:49:20
    Peggy

    I am for health care reform w/public option because.......

    A healthy american is a strong american. It will save thousands and insurance companies will just have to live off the interest from stole profits. Poor babies.
    Doctors will return to practicing medicine without onput from the insurance bottom line.
    Savings from insurance policy payments will be spent to stimulate the economy.
    A few less lobbist will control our government
    People will get the medical care they deserve!
  • EDIE47 October 23, 2009 17:44:03
    EDIE47

    I am for health care reform w/public option because.......

    America should take care of their own. This issue has been beaten to death, for decades. We have no choice now. If nothing, I would like the industry to be better regulated, so abuses and run-away clauses in coverage, like "pre-existing conditions" for instance, could be eliminated.



    This is an example of the insurance co. value-system. I tried to find the CNN article, but it's not posted yet. It's 8 minutes long. Catch the first 3-4, and you get the idea.
  • Gramma Lil October 23, 2009 16:08:45
    Gramma Lil

    I am for health care reform w/public option because.......

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  • Bob™ the Union Ironworker October 23, 2009 15:05:47
    Bob™ the Union Ironworker

    I am for health care reform w/public option because.......

    I will defer to the brilliant Robert Reich who I think gives a strong case
    Why We Need a Public Health-Care Plan
    Without the government as competition, the private sector has little incentive to improve.


    By ROBERT B. REICH

    Why has health-care reform stalled in Congress? Democrats, after all, control both Houses, and President Obama, whose popularity remains high, has made universal health care his No. 1 priority. What's more, an overwhelming majority of the public wants it. In the most recent Wall Street Journal/NBC News poll, 76% of respondents said it was important that Americans have a choice between a public and private health-insurance plan. In last week's New York Times/CBSNews poll, 85% said they wanted major health-care reforms.

    So why the stall? Mainly because Congress can't decide how to pay for it. The hardest blow came last week when the Congressional Budget Office (CBO) estimated that the trial-balloon bill emerging from the Senate Health Committee would cost a whopping $1 trillion over 10 years and would cover only a fraction of Americans currently without health care. According to the CBO, another tentative bill, this one coming out of the Senate Finance Committee, would cost even more -- $1.6 trillion.

    That spells political trouble. Republicans who never b...




























    I will defer to the brilliant Robert Reich who I think gives a strong case
    Why We Need a Public Health-Care Plan
    Without the government as competition, the private sector has little incentive to improve.


    By ROBERT B. REICH

    Why has health-care reform stalled in Congress? Democrats, after all, control both Houses, and President Obama, whose popularity remains high, has made universal health care his No. 1 priority. What's more, an overwhelming majority of the public wants it. In the most recent Wall Street Journal/NBC News poll, 76% of respondents said it was important that Americans have a choice between a public and private health-insurance plan. In last week's New York Times/CBSNews poll, 85% said they wanted major health-care reforms.

    So why the stall? Mainly because Congress can't decide how to pay for it. The hardest blow came last week when the Congressional Budget Office (CBO) estimated that the trial-balloon bill emerging from the Senate Health Committee would cost a whopping $1 trillion over 10 years and would cover only a fraction of Americans currently without health care. According to the CBO, another tentative bill, this one coming out of the Senate Finance Committee, would cost even more -- $1.6 trillion.

    That spells political trouble. Republicans who never batted an eye over George W. Bush's wild spending habits have become born-again fiscal hawks. Blue Dog Democrats are nervous about mounting deficits. Even the president admits that the flow of red ink in future budgets keeps him up at night.
    [Commentary] Corbis

    No one wants to raise taxes or even be accused of thinking about the subject. But honest politicians have to admit that universal health care will require additional revenues. The likeliest sources are limits on certain tax deductions and a cap on tax-free employer-provided health care. Would the public go along? The most intriguing finding in last week's New York Times/CBS poll was that most respondents said they would be willing to pay higher taxes to ensure everyone had health insurance.

    But before we even get to this point, it's important to recognize that those terrifying CBO cost projections significantly overstate the costs. They did not include potential cost savings from the lynchpin of health-care cost containment: a so-called public option that would give people who don't get health care from their employer the choice of a public insurance plan. Why? For the simple reason that the Senate committees hadn't yet agreed on a public option. Yet without a public option, the other parties that comprise America's non-system of health care -- private insurers, doctors, hospitals, drug companies, and medical suppliers -- have little or no incentive to supply high-quality care at a lower cost than they do now.

    Which is precisely why the public option has become such a lightening rod. The American Medical Association is dead-set against it, Big Pharma rejects it out of hand, and the biggest insurance companies won't consider it. No other issue in the current health-care debate is as fiercely opposed by the medical establishment and their lobbies now swarming over Capitol Hill. Of course, they don't want it. A public option would squeeze their profits and force them to undertake major reforms. That's the whole point.

    Critics say the public option is really a Trojan horse for a government takeover of all of health insurance. But nothing could be further from the truth. It's an option. No one has to choose it. Individuals and families will merely be invited to compare costs and outcomes. Presumably they will choose the public plan only if it offers them and their families the best deal -- more and better health care for less.

    Private insurers say a public option would have an unfair advantage in achieving this goal. Being the one public plan, it will have large economies of scale that will enable it to negotiate more favorable terms with pharmaceutical companies and other providers. But why, exactly, is this unfair? Isn't the whole point of cost containment to provide the public with health care on more favorable terms? If the public plan negotiates better terms -- thereby demonstrating that drug companies and other providers can meet them -- private plans could seek similar deals.

    But, say the critics, the public plan starts off with an unfair advantage because it's likely to have lower administrative costs. That may be true -- Medicare's administrative costs per enrollee are a small fraction of typical private insurance costs -- but here again, why exactly is this unfair? Isn't one of the goals of health-care cost containment to lower administrative costs? If the public option pushes private plans to trim their bureaucracies and become more efficient, that's fine.

    Critics complain that a public plan has an inherent advantage over private plans because the public won't have to show profits. But plenty of private plans are already not-for-profit. And if nonprofit plans can offer high-quality health care more cheaply than for-profit plans, why should for-profit plans be coddled? The public plan would merely force profit-making private plans to take whatever steps were necessary to become more competitive. Once again, that's a plus.

    Critics charge that the public plan will be subsidized by the government. Here they have their facts wrong. Under every plan that's being discussed on Capitol Hill, subsidies go to individuals and families who need them in order to afford health care, not to a public plan. Individuals and families use the subsidies to shop for the best care they can find. They're free to choose the public plan, but that's only one option. They could take their subsidy and buy a private plan just as easily. Legislation should also make crystal clear that the public plan, for its part, may not dip into general revenues to cover its costs. It must pay for itself. And any government entity that oversees the health-insurance pool or acts as referee in setting ground rules for all plans must not favor the public plan.

    Finally, critics say that because of its breadth and national reach, the public plan will be able to collect and analyze patient information on a large scale to discover the best ways to improve care. The public plan might even allow clinicians who form accountable-care organizations to keep a portion of the savings they generate. Those opposed to a public option ask how private plans can ever compete with all this. The answer is they can and should. It's the only way we have a prayer of taming health-care costs. But here's some good news for the private plans. The information gleaned by the public plan about best practices will be made available to the private plans as they try to achieve the same or better outputs.

    As a practical matter, the choice people make between private plans and a public one is likely to function as a check on both. Such competition will encourage private plans to do better -- offering more value at less cost. At the same time, it will encourage the public plan to be as flexible as possible. In this way, private and public plans will offer one another benchmarks of what's possible and desirable.

    Mr. Obama says he wants a public plan. But the strength of the opposition to it, along with his own commitment to making the emerging bill "bipartisan," is leading toward some oddball compromises. One would substitute nonprofit health insurance cooperatives for a public plan. But such cooperatives would lack the scale and authority to negotiate lower rates with drug companies and other providers, collect wide data on outcomes, or effect major change in the system.

    Another emerging compromise is to hold off on a public option altogether unless or until private insurers fail to meet some targets for expanding coverage and lowering health-care costs years from now. But without a public option from the start, private insurers won't have the incentives or system-wide model they need to reach these targets. And in politics, years from now usually means never.

    To get health care moving again in Congress, the president will have to be clear about how to deal with its costs and whether and how a public plan is to be included as an option. The two are intimately related. Enough talk. He should come out swinging for the public option.

    Mr. Reich, professor of public policy at the University of California at Berkeley and former Secretary of Labor under President Clinton, is the author of "Supercapitalism: The Transformation of Business, Democracy, and Everyday Life" (Alfred A. Knopf,
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  • on and on1 October 23, 2009 12:56:54
    on and on1

    I am for health care reform w/public option because.......

    Health care reform with an option simply adds "more options" and may bring down third party insurance costs. It NEEDS to be an OPTION though!
  • STU October 23, 2009 09:57:06
    STU

    None of the above

    This Country was built on people helping people.....
  • Carl October 23, 2009 06:46:47
    Carl

    I am against healthcare reform because......

    the feds haven't addressed the Medicare shortfall.
  • Snaps mom October 23, 2009 06:15:30
    Snaps mom

    I am for health care reform w/public option because.......

    Public health insurance option would give Americans a real choice and not reward for-profit health insurers with 47 milllion new customers. Real health care reform that includes a public health insurance option would cut out the administrative waste of private insurers and begin changing the way health care is delivered. Public Option could adopt the kind of payment reforms that would start to “hold down long-term growth in health spending” and encourage providers to deliver care more efficiently. We know that premiums in the public option would be about 10 percent lower and that a real robust plan that piggy backs off of Medicare’s infrastructure could save us somewhere between $75 billion and $150 billion over 10 years.
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