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  • Tin Machine 2012/06/28 15:14:17
    I am disappointed with today's Supreme Court decision.
    Tin Machine
    +3
    Well now the goverment can do anything it wants, further eroding the personal rights and liberties of it's citizens.

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  • Roblem BN-0 2012/07/02 04:52:36
    I'm happy with the decision. Obama is a wonderful President.
    Roblem BN-0
    +1
    I am actually surprised of the supreme court ruling. Very pleasantly surprised. I am not thrilled with everything in the legislation but it is a start and hopefully with time can be modified so that all citizens can be guaranteed health care. Much rather see my money go to that than Homeland (cough) Security or the TSA.
  • wildbill 2012/07/02 04:42:19
    I'm happy with the decision. Obama is a wonderful President.
    wildbill
    +1
    Simplified, the bill does a few big things:

    Prevents insurance companies from denying customers for pre-existing conditions.
    Allows young adults to stay on their parent's insurance until age 26.
    Limits age-rating, or charging premiums several times higher for older customers.
    Eliminates lifetime insurance caps and restricts annual limits.
    Restricts how much insurance companies can spend on non-medical costs (overhead).
    Mandates that everyone acquire health insurance by 2014 or face a tax, offering subsidies or Medicaid for those who can't afford it.

    Here's what's important: According to the Census Bureau, 49.9 million Americans didn't have health insurance in 2009. Part of that is due to the weak economy; most of those without health insurance have a very low or nonexistent income. But a lot is due to soaring costs that have put insurance out of reach for the gainfully employed. According to the Kaiser Family Foundation, 69% of businesses offered workers health insurance in 2000. By 2009, that number had dropped to 60%. It's almost certainly lower today. Our health-care system doesn't work for far too many Americans, which likely explains why most of the policies outlined above are pretty popular.
  • mrk5panzer 2012/06/28 19:47:34
    I am disappointed with today's Supreme Court decision.
    mrk5panzer
    +1
    They just handed Mitt the election and you don't stand a chance of congress passing a tax increase.
  • wildbill mrk5panzer 2012/07/02 04:51:49 (edited)
    wildbill
    What are you talking about? The Affordable Health Care Act has been the law of the land since November of 2009. Congress passed it and President Obama signed it into law back then..

    Since the law went into affect in 2009 it-.

    Prevents insurance companies from denying customers for pre-existing conditions.
    Allows young adults to stay on their parent's insurance until age 26.
    Limits age-rating, or charging premiums several times higher for older customers.
    Eliminates lifetime insurance caps and restricts annual limits.
    Restricts how much insurance companies can spend on non-medical costs (overhead).
    Prevents women from paying more than men for the same coverage.
    Mandates that everyone acquire health insurance by 2014 or face a tax, offering subsidies or Medicaid for those who can't afford it.

    Here's what's important: According to the Census Bureau, 49.9 million Americans didn't have health insurance in 2009. Part of that is due to the weak economy; most of those without health insurance have a very low or nonexistent income. But a lot is due to soaring costs that have put insurance out of reach for the gainfully employed. According to the Kaiser Family Foundation, 69% of businesses offered workers health insurance in 2000. By 2009, that number had dropped to 60%. It'...
    What are you talking about? The Affordable Health Care Act has been the law of the land since November of 2009. Congress passed it and President Obama signed it into law back then..

    Since the law went into affect in 2009 it-.

    Prevents insurance companies from denying customers for pre-existing conditions.
    Allows young adults to stay on their parent's insurance until age 26.
    Limits age-rating, or charging premiums several times higher for older customers.
    Eliminates lifetime insurance caps and restricts annual limits.
    Restricts how much insurance companies can spend on non-medical costs (overhead).
    Prevents women from paying more than men for the same coverage.
    Mandates that everyone acquire health insurance by 2014 or face a tax, offering subsidies or Medicaid for those who can't afford it.

    Here's what's important: According to the Census Bureau, 49.9 million Americans didn't have health insurance in 2009. Part of that is due to the weak economy; most of those without health insurance have a very low or nonexistent income. But a lot is due to soaring costs that have put insurance out of reach for the gainfully employed. According to the Kaiser Family Foundation, 69% of businesses offered workers health insurance in 2000. By 2009, that number had dropped to 60%. It's almost certainly lower today. Our health-care system doesn't work for far too many Americans, which likely explains why most of the policies outlined above are pretty popular.
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  • mrk5panzer wildbill 2012/07/02 20:03:01
    mrk5panzer
    Whats important is Obama,Pelosi, Reid and the other zombies on the left in DC.
    "LIED" when it came to how it would be paid for.
    It isn't a Tax remember !?
    you lied
  • wildbill mrk5panzer 2012/07/03 05:32:00 (edited)
    wildbill
    Mitt Romney agrees with President Obama that the 1% of the people in New Hampshire that refused to purchase health insurance, and in effect freeload on insurance payers, should pay a penalty.
    They also agree that about 1% of all Americans may choose to pay the penalty rather than purchase insurance under the Affordable Health Care Act.
    They agree it is not a tax. Chief Justice Roberts ruled that the the Act was constitutional because the federal government has the right to tax (or discourage) unwanted behavior.
    It is the same part of Constitutional Law that allows the government to increase the tax on cigarettes to discourage smoking.
    So is Mitt Romney lying too?

  • mrk5panzer wildbill 2012/07/03 13:52:24
    mrk5panzer
    LOL, a Tax is a Tax no matter what crayon you color it with. So people on the left can take your tap shoes off now because no way are you going to sell this BS,Obamacare to the 75% of us that don't believe in it. Its gone after 2012 and thats that.
    tax crayon color people tap shoes sell bsobamacare 75 2012
  • wildbill mrk5panzer 2012/07/03 22:25:02 (edited)
    wildbill
    So Mitt Romney MUST be lying when he says that the penalty for NOT purchasing insurance in New Hampshire under HIS state insurance plan or in the U.S. under the AHCA is NOT a tax but a penalty.
  • mrk5panzer wildbill 2012/07/04 13:45:06
    mrk5panzer
    Your not telling the truth or you haven't gotten all the details on the subject. But my guess is your a left winger and your just having a knee jerk reaction to information being pumped out their from The Huff & Puff Post or Media Blabbers.
    Your boy has his own foot up his butt and he can say what ever it takes to make you fell warm and fuzzy. But it still comes down to a tax for Obamacare and that 75% of us don't like it. So bye-bye Obama this Nov. and get ready to go back to work and quiet standing around sucking up all the freebee's Obama has been giving ya.
  • wildbill mrk5panzer 2012/07/05 00:20:27 (edited)
    wildbill
    On Monday they said it was not a tax, but a penalty.
    The Romney campaign changed it's mind since Monday.

    WASHINGTON --" Mitt Romney Wednesday reversed the position staked out by his own campaign just two days before and said the penalty levied against Americans who do not buy health insurance under President Obama’s health care overhaul is ``a tax.’’

    The Supreme Court ruled last week that the enforcement mechanism for the individual mandate in the 2010 health care expansion -- a penalty payment made to the Internal Revenue Service -- qualifies as a tax.

    On Monday, Romney spokesman Eric Fehrnstrom said Romney did not agree that it was a tax, and considered it a penalty."

    http://www.boston.com/politic...

    Maybe he will change it again by Friday.
  • mrk5panzer wildbill 2012/07/05 18:34:32
    mrk5panzer
    What does Mitt got to do with Obama saying its not a Tax and yet the Surpreme's say it is. Obama and his band of thieves all said it wasn't a tax. Now it is but it isn't, don't you people on the left ever feel dumb?
    I mean really, you people are the poster child of what a sack of hammers are.
  • wildbill mrk5panzer 2012/07/05 00:27:44 (edited)
    wildbill
    Members of the Armed Forces know all bout sucking up FREEBIES.

    http://freebies.about.com/od/...
  • BARRY0619 2012/06/28 19:20:00
    I am disappointed with today's Supreme Court decision.
    BARRY0619
    +1
    Obama is a disgrace...
  • Jackie G - Poker Playing Pa... 2012/06/28 19:15:40
    Other
    Jackie G - Poker Playing Patriot
    +1
    Chief Justice Roberts: “It Is Not Our Job to Protect the People From the Consequences of Their Political Choices”

    A clear message from Roberts -- Now we must vote the liar in the WH out!!
  • sglmom 2012/06/28 19:01:01
    Other
    sglmom
    They called it what it is .. a TAX ..
  • wildbill sglmom 2012/07/02 05:02:17 (edited)
    wildbill
    A tax on 1% of the population that don't want to

    Prevent insurance companies from denying customers for pre-existing conditions.
    Allow young adults to stay on their parent's insurance until age 26.
    Limit age-rating, or charging premiums several times higher for older customers.
    Eliminate lifetime insurance caps and restricts annual limits.
    Restrict how much insurance companies can spend on non-medical costs (overhead).
    Mandate that everyone acquire health insurance by 2014 or face a penalty, offering subsidies or Medicaid for those who can't afford it.

    Here's what's important: According to the Census Bureau, 49.9 million Americans didn't have health insurance in 2009. Part of that is due to the weak economy; most of those without health insurance have a very low or nonexistent income. But a lot is due to soaring costs that have put insurance out of reach for the gainfully employed. According to the Kaiser Family Foundation, 69% of businesses offered workers health insurance in 2000. By 2009, that number had dropped to 60%. It's almost certainly lower today. Our health-care system doesn't work for far too many Americans, which likely explains why most of the policies outlined above are popular.
  • sglmom wildbill 2012/07/02 05:09:44
    sglmom
    Sigh ..
    what about that additional tax .. on those who are self-employed (hmm .. % point higher than those who are employed by businesses)
    what about that new tax on durable medical equipment .. starting low enough .. that even walkers and canes will now be taxed .. (and where will those funds go?)
    what about the additional MILITARY Specific directed tax .. the one where those falling under this .. will have to pay .. in addition to the tax that the civilians have to pay ..
    what about the additional tax .. for what they claim are cadillac plans? (have you seen a bill for emergency treatment lately .. I have .. it adds up quickly indeed .. just one visit .. and you'll be taxed heavily for .. emergencies .. )
    there's so much more ..
    in reality .. this abominable TAX .. this HEAVY Tax ..
    does not address the simplest of fixes ..
    which is the TORT Reforms ..
    (and what about prosecuting all those who played for pay .. and purchased specific exemptions, access, benefits in this 2K+pages of monstrosity?)
  • Scott (o)(o) 2012/06/28 18:25:55
    Other
    Scott (o)(o)
    don't know what to think really !
  • belle 2012/06/28 18:21:13
    I am disappointed with today's Supreme Court decision.
    belle
    +2
    if is a shame all those judges can't be fired for betraying the American people by approving this unfust bill. Just a new tax on the people for Obama to collect the money if he stays in office, I do hope this angers the voters so much that Romney is elected by the biggrst landslide in History.
  • Dion Pr... belle 2012/06/28 18:40:21
    Dion Prince
    +1
    so... you are against the constitution when it does not fit in to what your personal beliefs are?
  • belle Dion Pr... 2012/06/28 18:49:55
    belle
    +1
    where did I say that, I am for the people, you sure are not if you agree with this ruling.
  • Dion Pr... belle 2012/06/29 14:54:02
    Dion Prince
    when you stated that its a shame all those judeges cant be fired. you are saying that its a shame that the CONSTITUTION does not allow for them to be fired
  • belle Dion Pr... 2012/06/29 15:16:47
    belle
    no I am saying that no one should have a guaranteed job for life. The ones that wrote the constitution would probably agree in todays world.
  • Dion Pr... belle 2012/06/29 16:21:25
    Dion Prince
    and how exactly do you know they would agree to that? I think they would keep it the same. they did write it
  • belle Dion Pr... 2012/06/30 02:00:48
    belle
    did I not use the word "PROBABLY" in my comment.
  • Dion Pr... belle 2012/07/02 17:48:13
    Dion Prince
    It still does not show proof of your claim. Its still just a random statement you pulled out of your butt
  • belle Dion Pr... 2012/07/02 19:20:52
    belle
    better out of my butt than out of yours, because I have no ideal what has been up yours.
    Go away you act like trash.
  • krayzrick Dion Pr... 2012/06/28 19:16:20
    krayzrick
    +2
    Next month you will be told to buy Wranglers from now on. The month after that, they will tell you about the list of things you 'can't' buy....enjoy
  • mrk5panzer Dion Pr... 2012/06/28 19:50:08
    mrk5panzer
    +1
    Didn't Obama,Pelosi,Reid and all those other left wing nuts tell us that this wasn't a Tax...Hmmmmmmmm!
  • belle mrk5panzer 2012/06/29 15:18:24
    belle
    +1
    they sure did, there were many comments on SH by the lefties saying that it was not a tax.
  • mrk5panzer belle 2012/06/29 17:37:05
    mrk5panzer
    +1
    Its funny when ya think of it, the left get all pumped up about the Vote and we on the right didn't even vote for this. But in the end its those on the left that will have to pay for it.
    Because come Nov. Mitt will be the new pres and Obamacare will be gone. Then its hunting season for the right.
    zombie hunting
  • belle mrk5panzer 2012/06/30 02:01:34
    belle
    +1
    good sounding words to my ears and eyes.
  • Dion Prince 2012/06/28 16:01:18
    Other
    Dion Prince
    +2
    I am fine with it. I do not completely support the mandate, but I support Americans being about to have healthcare more affordable and available to everyone
  • Idiot repubs 2012/06/28 15:36:23
    I'm happy with the decision. Obama is a wonderful President.
    Idiot repubs
    It looks like Roberts didn't want to go down in history as having one of the most political, corrupt supreme courts in history.
  • belle Idiot r... 2012/06/29 15:19:12
    belle
    no but he is going down as a traitor
  • Idiot r... belle 2012/06/29 17:00:45
    Idiot repubs
    Traitor to what the GOP???

    He was true to the constitution, which is a hell of alot more important than the GOP.
  • belle Idiot r... 2012/06/30 02:03:08
    belle
    traitor to all, unless he used the TAX as a way to prove Obama is a liar, if not a traitor.
  • Idiot r... belle 2012/06/30 13:42:37
    Idiot repubs
    +1
    [...] most americans want this, the supreme court has upheld it, you lie about it.
  • belle Idiot r... 2012/07/01 00:02:34
    belle
    You know I am tired of people like you that don't like my answers calling me names. So unless you can absolurly prove everything you say about me just STFU. To enlighten you NO most the people do not want it, now take that and shove it where ever it suits you.
  • Idiot r... belle 2012/07/01 00:11:55
    Idiot repubs
    Most people want it, you lie about it.

    like obamacare

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