Supreme Court Refuses To Hear Obama Birth Certificate Challenge, Should They Hear The birthers claims?
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2012/06/11 17:57:56
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Lady Whitewolf 2012/06/11 21:08:40
Best to you MsTlynne.
Barack Obama's Irish Heritage
By Nadra Kareem Nittle
Barack Obama may be known as the first black president of the United States, but what’s far less recognized is that he’s also said to be the 18th Irish-American president. Never was Obama’s mixed heritage more on display than during his May 2011 trip to Ireland. There, the half-white president met for the first time distant cousins in the village of Moneygall—home of his great-great-great grandfather. It was high time for Obama to showcase his Irish heritage according to biographer Stephen MacDonogh.
Thus, we have this bad situation between conservatives and progressives. I assure you that if I were satisfied with his documents I'd not be in this discussion but my conscience will not allow me to accept his alleged "documentation." If Mr. Romney's documents were as poorly done, I would WANT you to challenge them and I would be arguing on your behalf.
It really is nothing personal about you or Mr. obama. It is right and wrong and quite honestly I'd rather see both of us, highly educated and reasonably intelligent men working together to correct this matter. While I've disagreed with you on many matters I've always respected you.
Best to you sir.
And even without the birth certificates, you have two different Governors of Hawaii (one a republican) confirming that the President was born in Hawaii. You have contemporaneous newspaper accounts that confirm that the President was born in Hawaii. The State of Hawaii sent verification of the information to the State of Arizona confirming that the President was born in Hawaii. You have his own grandmother confirming that he was born in Hawaii. you have Indonesian school records confirming that he was born in Hawaii. You have an eyewitness who remembers being told by the delivering physician on the day the President was born that "Stanley [the President's mother's name] had a baby today".
And there also is absolutely no logic or sense behind the allegations. In order for the birthers to be correct that would mean that a pregnant woman in Hawaii decided to fly to Kenya in the late stages of her pregnancy, then as soon as she delivered fly back to Hawaii and lie to the Department of Health in order to get a birth certificate...
And even without the birth certificates, you have two different Governors of Hawaii (one a republican) confirming that the President was born in Hawaii. You have contemporaneous newspaper accounts that confirm that the President was born in Hawaii. The State of Hawaii sent verification of the information to the State of Arizona confirming that the President was born in Hawaii. You have his own grandmother confirming that he was born in Hawaii. you have Indonesian school records confirming that he was born in Hawaii. You have an eyewitness who remembers being told by the delivering physician on the day the President was born that "Stanley [the President's mother's name] had a baby today".
And there also is absolutely no logic or sense behind the allegations. In order for the birthers to be correct that would mean that a pregnant woman in Hawaii decided to fly to Kenya in the late stages of her pregnancy, then as soon as she delivered fly back to Hawaii and lie to the Department of Health in order to get a birth certificate. There is also the fact that the ONLY possible reason why anyone would have lied about his birthplace was to make him eligible to be President of the United States. Even the most forward thinking liberal in 1961 would never have believed even the bare possibility that a mixed race child with a strange name and a father dark as night could ever run for President.
And finally, doesn't it strike you as a gaping hole in the theory that even given four years and unlimited resources (practically speaking) not ONE piece of actual evidence to demonstrate that he was born anywhere other than Honolulu has ever been discovered? Donald Trump has a lot of money, and he's is far from the only rich person who would like to see the President deposed. If in fact this conspiracy is as vast as the birthers believe it is, that means that the President has an amzing network of people and resources to eliminate every trace of evidence to contradict his story. And if he is talented enough to accomplish all that, then he surely would be able to hire a good forger.
In short, the birthers' theory has so many holes in it, so many logical contradictions, that it cannot be taken seriously by anyone. If they don't like the President, they can always vote for Mitt Romney. That's how the system works in this country.
And while you're busy avoiding reality, how do YOU explain why a pregnant woman would fly to Kenya to give birth then fly back a few days later all to make sure that 50 years later her son could run for President?
Of course I forgive you. Politicans will say anything when they are under pressure and we both know that we cannot trust them most of the time. I have serious doubts that any governor of Hawaii saw any original obama birth certificate. I honestly respect your right to believe it and am not trying to turn you to my side of the issue. I would hope that you would show mutual respect for my right to not believe the Hawaiian Governor.
As for the second paragraph, I see no explanation. I don't say that there was a conspiracy although a few years ago I did read of one by the Russians working with the American Communist Party but I never took it seriously. What we have, I consider to have been just the way things turned out, no 50 year conspiracy. On the other hand, IF, there were such a 50 year conspiracy, wouldn't that make an awesome book?
Have ye a good day. I worked a night shift and will probably be in the sack before you wire me back. Best to you.
[PS I believe Zuggi was claiming Scottish ancestry for himself, not the President.]
you see, human beings have 2 parents. those parents can have different origins.
protozoa, otoh, have one parent. maybe that's what confused you?
So basically you say he needs to claim one side? How stupid is that? He IS both. He is biracial.
the post is about his American citizenship and you bring up the fact that he claims both his mother's and his father's bloodlines.
that is relevant how, exactly?
please show me where in the Constitution it states that one must be of a specific race in order to be president. I'd dearly love to see that.
oh, maybe you're talking about the 3/5 compromise? that was repealed just after that war you lost 140 years ago.
get over it.
Otherwise, LOL no... complete waste of time, obviously. As the SCOTUS correctly stated, these nutcases have absolutely no legal standing to file a lawsuit.
I do not live in California, and I love witnessing train wrecks that can be seen so far ahead. You get the "enjoy" the crazy just a little, bit, more. I am "secretly" hoping she goes far. ;-)