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Support for Medicinal Marijuana in Romney's MA: Would Romney Win Ron Paul Voters by Legalizing It?

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Ron Paul supporters have made it pretty clear that they want to legalize marijuana... and they've also made it pretty clear that they don't really see a difference between President Obama and challenger Mitt Romney. Would they vote for Romney in the 2012 general election if he supported legalizing marijuana?

Ron Paul supporters won't have the choice of voting for Ron Paul in November 2012. They need to admit that likelihood and start deciding whom they will support: Democrat Barack Obama or Republican Mitt Romney.

WICKEDLOCAL.COM reports:
Massachusetts voters favor allowing terminally ill patients to request and self-administer lethal doses of medication by large margins, according to a mid-August poll released by Public Policy Polling.
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  • historian 2012/08/23 22:19:56 (edited)
    No
    historian
    +27
    First of all, considering Romney's inability to give firm answers or tell the truth basically, any promises he makes should be taken with a grain of salt.



    Secondly, those who voted for and support Ron Paul are not just a bunch of dopers as many seem to believe. It's unlikely any real liberty-lover, supporter of the Constitutional Republic, free patriot would hand over their principles for a doobie.

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  • DizziNY Philo-P... 2012/08/24 17:34:42 (edited)
    DizziNY
    +1
    Then you were never a true Ron Paul supporter. A true one sees O'Romney is no different. Also a TRUE Ron Paul supporter WON'T vote for oDUMBo.
  • ConLibF... DizziNY 2012/08/24 17:54:20
    ConLibFraud
    +1
    Liar is a better description.
  • DizziNY ConLibF... 2012/08/24 18:06:37
    DizziNY
    +1
    Yeap, I bet this person is just saying that to try to get people to not like Dr Paul.
  • ConLibF... DizziNY 2012/08/24 18:08:23
    ConLibFraud
    Should be sued for slander.
  • DeeB ConLibF... 2012/08/25 16:51:43
    DeeB
    +1
    Come on Lib, he was being sarcastic.
  • ConLibF... DeeB 2012/08/25 17:04:31
    ConLibFraud
    +1
    Then he needs to say so.
  • DeeB ConLibF... 2012/08/25 17:56:18
    DeeB
    +1
    I was wrong, he wasn't being sarcastic!
  • ConLibF... DeeB 2012/08/25 18:00:46
    ConLibFraud
    +1
    I knew he wasn't. Seen his past comments.
  • DeeB ConLibF... 2012/08/25 18:09:36
    DeeB
    +1
    I had only seen his Ron Paul ones I guess!
  • DeeB ConLibF... 2012/08/25 16:55:21
    DeeB
    +1
    Never mind, thought he was!
  • Philo-P... DizziNY 2012/08/24 22:22:13
    Philo-Publius
    I'm a left-leaning libertarian who isn't in love with the Democrats by any means, but who hates the Republicans more -- that may change, but right now this is my position and I'm being truthful about it.

    It pains me that Ron Paul doesn't have a shot anymore, and people are free to disagree with my supporting what I feel is the lesser of two evils.

    I've always liked your answers and comments on here; we seem to think alike more than we think differently, and you may well be right in the end. I'm sorry that we disagree on this issue.
  • DeeB Philo-P... 2012/08/25 16:54:56
    DeeB
    +2
    Oh, I thought you were being sarcastic. How does one go from Ron Paul to the NWO? That is totally mind boggling to me. I have never voted in my life because I hate both sides and there has never been anyone good enough to vote for, so if Paul doesn't get it, It will be either Johnson or no one at all for me. The day I vote for the NWO would be the day I die.
  • Philo-P... DeeB 2012/08/25 17:45:18
    Philo-Publius
    I appreciate your perspective and the perspective of the others here who have agreed with you. I haven't voted since the 2000 election, and it was for Harry Browne. My vote for Browne didn't change anything. Modern libertarians have always had terrible showings in national elections, and, while I wish things were different, there has been no sign of them gaining ground outside of the support Ron Paul has in 2008 and in this year received.

    I don't think a vote is ever going to change anything. Voting is the natural outcome of a people's consciousness, and Americans don't yet have the requisite consciousness to change things. The NWO is whatever we want it to be: The founding fathers for the first time in the history of this planet set up a system of absolute individual sovereignty, and, if the people could have kept it, *that*, and the marvelous things they created with it, would have been the New World Order. But, the people were simply not ready for it, and they're still not. Today, people believe what the media tells them because they want to believe it; they want to be deceived, and they vote for who the TV man tells them to vote for. At least for one of the two men the TV tells them to vote for.

    Bill Cooper in the 1990s tried to take back the media and its hold over the peo...

    I appreciate your perspective and the perspective of the others here who have agreed with you. I haven't voted since the 2000 election, and it was for Harry Browne. My vote for Browne didn't change anything. Modern libertarians have always had terrible showings in national elections, and, while I wish things were different, there has been no sign of them gaining ground outside of the support Ron Paul has in 2008 and in this year received.

    I don't think a vote is ever going to change anything. Voting is the natural outcome of a people's consciousness, and Americans don't yet have the requisite consciousness to change things. The NWO is whatever we want it to be: The founding fathers for the first time in the history of this planet set up a system of absolute individual sovereignty, and, if the people could have kept it, *that*, and the marvelous things they created with it, would have been the New World Order. But, the people were simply not ready for it, and they're still not. Today, people believe what the media tells them because they want to believe it; they want to be deceived, and they vote for who the TV man tells them to vote for. At least for one of the two men the TV tells them to vote for.

    Bill Cooper in the 1990s tried to take back the media and its hold over the people with this exquisitely simple plan: A campaign to have ordinary people buy stock in all the major media corporations, and, once they had purchased enough to have a 51% voting interest, simply replace the CEOs and all the NWO talking heads with actual managers, and the pro-NWO news with actual news. Few were willing to spend even $50 or $100 (or even $5) on the endeavor, and so, after some early initial success toward purchasing a small company Bill had decided to do their test run on, the plan failed miserably.

    Maybe I'm being too negative, and maybe the lesser of two evils (as I perceive it) is the wrong choice, or is indeed no choice at all. And, 'libertarian' to me may not mean what it means to others who designate themselves as such. I just think, whether we vote for the lesser of the evils, or lodge a protest vote, or don't vote at all this cycle, it will not matter to the libertarian cause, because there is no viable libertarian cause yet. Libertarians have to first build their own competing institutions if we expect others to follow. People need to see something tangible to jump on board, and they have to be ready. Right now, they're clearly not ready.
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  • DeeB Philo-P... 2012/08/25 18:06:36
    DeeB
    +1
    Well I have to say that you make a lot of sense. But throwing one more vote for the Usurper I do not agree with. Why don't you just not vote? That's my plan if Paul doesn't get the nomination. I would never give Rombama the time of day. My stomach starts rumbling just thinking about it!

    Thank you for the info on Cooper. I didn't know that about the idea to take over the media. What a great idea and if I had known about it, I would have been on board. But I wasn't awake at that time. Although I have always felt that it was the government against the people. I wanted no involvement.
  • DizziNY Philo-P... 2012/08/27 17:19:33
    DizziNY
    +1
    I don't care about parties, I care about VOTING RECORDS! I don't like LWNJ or RWNJs. I want a person in office who follows the Constitution.

    Voting
  • DeeB DizziNY 2012/08/25 16:50:46 (edited)
    DeeB
    I do believe he's being sarcastic!
  • ConLibF... Philo-P... 2012/08/24 17:53:14
    ConLibFraud
    +1
    So you are for the demise of America.
  • Philo-P... ConLibF... 2012/08/24 22:26:04
    Philo-Publius
    +1
    No, I'm just being realistic. If Ron Paul got the nomination I said I would support him. I supported him up until it was clear he wasn't going to be the nominee.

    I'm taking what I perceive to be the lesser of two evils here, and people are free to disagree or to think that's a terrible decision, or a cop out, or whatever they like. I'm not a huge fan of the Democrats, but I feel these Republicans are worse.
  • ConLibF... Philo-P... 2012/08/24 22:35:40
    ConLibFraud
    +1
    There is no difference between the Ds and the Rs. No difference between Ofraud and ORomney. They are both controlled puppets and American has too many like you that swallow the game of division and separation.
  • Magnus ☮ RP ☮ 2012 ☮ 2012/08/24 11:24:45
    No
    Magnus ☮ RP ☮ 2012 ☮
    +10
    I do not vote for slippery little snakes; no matter what they try to whisper in my ear.

    Furthermore, if this Nation at-large believes that legalization of a natural and harmless plant that the Lord created and gave to mankind in the first place is the sole reason why so many other Americans are standing behind Ron Paul, then I feel incredibly sorry for them because they are terribly misinformed. And if this is the best the establishment can come up with to try and further discredit Paul, then I confess myself disappointed—disappointed because such a feeble lie was so easily believed and regurgitated by said misinformed.

    "Out of the mouth of babes and sucklings hast thou ordained strength because of thine enemies, that thou mightest still the enemy and the avenger." Psalm 8:2

    Just this once, you elders should have listened to us youth. I therefore sincerely hope that each and every one of you reap, directly, what you have sown.
  • jimrthy... Magnus ... 2012/08/24 14:55:54
    jimrthy BN-0
    +3
    They won't. They'll keep passing the buck onto their kids and grandkids. The same way they've been doing with the huge national debt and their Social Security Ponzi Scheme.
  • Embalmer jimrthy... 2012/08/24 15:13:46
    Embalmer
    And with planet Earth.
  • jimrthy... Embalmer 2012/09/06 02:26:38
    jimrthy BN-0
    +1
    That too. I don't understand how *anyone* can look at the things humans are doing to the environment and not be horrified.

    That's just an entire new level of scary that I figure most people here aren't ready to even begin thinking about.
  • Tpem 2012/08/24 09:23:03
    No
    Tpem
    +1
    It might help but it will take more than that to get Paul voters to switch.
  • Mikey 2012/08/24 09:19:36 (edited)
    No
    Mikey
    +3
    No because Libertarians aren't as gullible as Republicans. They know he's a shifty son of a bitch and they've already resigned themselves to vote for him or sit this one out. He doesn't have to offer them anymore Vaseline.
  • jimrthy... Mikey 2012/08/24 14:53:57
    jimrthy BN-0
    +1
    Screw that. Why waste tax dollars making the switch? Much less adding yet another worthless parasite to the retirement roles?
  • Katherine 2012/08/24 08:55:18
    No
    Katherine
    +5
    I'm finished with compromising. Or rather, since there's no perfect, it's compromising with Paul's isolationist foreign policy. There's a tiny likelihood he might be talked into seeing the responsibility we have no thanks to putting the most violent people into power around Israel. Obama is a national socialist and Romney is probably a democratic socialist or progressive republican. I'm a conservative-libertarian.. these days.. If we don't fix our situation at home, we'll be of no use to anyone. Tyrant Obama and flip flopper Romney aren't going to cut it and we're almost to the wall at what our country can handle. It's more than legalizing drugs. I doubt that would be Paul's first priority.. or Romney's. I refuse to allow everything our ancestors fought for get obliterated, refuse to let it go on record in history books (in a way) that I supported either one of them. What the hell has happened to our country. It's almost vanished.
  • S* 2012/08/24 07:28:46
    No
    S*
    It is not likely to be a single issue difference at election time, between Obama and Romney. Not sure why the Republican Party has decided that Paul is not important, this is an election year, who can afford to lose voters. Perhaps they feel that there is no way a Paul supporter might go Obama, but the more likely scenario is a low turn out from Paul supporters, especially as he has been dissed by the Right, and that might make difference.
  • jimrthy... S* 2012/08/24 14:51:29
    jimrthy BN-0
    +2
    The Republicans have decided Paul supporters aren't important because they're terrified that other people might start paying attention to freedom issues again.

    They'd *much* rather "lose* an election to their partners, the Democrats, than have people accept that there's no meaningful difference between the "two" parties. They both (and their propaganda arm, the MSM) *have* to marginalize us. Americans still like the theory of freedom, even if most of us have totally forgotten what it looks like.
  • Stevethinks 2012/08/24 06:02:46
    Yes
    Stevethinks
    Yes and Prohibition for alcohol.
  • MOMMA THOMAS 2012/08/24 05:49:38
    No
    MOMMA THOMAS
    NO
  • Annie~Pro American~Pro Israel 2012/08/24 05:43:36
    No
    Annie~Pro American~Pro Israel
    +2
    Ron Paul's voters have probably already made up their minds and legalizing pot won't matter.
  • Alien Ramone 2012/08/24 05:16:33
    No
    Alien Ramone
    +7
    Stances like immediately bringing home the troops from Afghanistan and reversing the control grid could pull in Ron Paul supporters.

    Ron Paul's stance is not for the federal government to legalize marijuana, but for the federal government to leave it to each state as to whether marijuana is legal. Legalizing medical marijuana in Massachusetts isn't going to do any good, since federal agents raid medical marijuana dispensaries in states that have legalized them anyway.

    Ron Paul supporters don't need to decide between Romney and Obama as implied in the description. There are Gary Johnson of the Libertarian Party, Virgil Goode of the Constitution Party and other third party options. Maybe Republicans and Democrats who prefer freedom should start looking at those options.
  • john ri... Alien R... 2012/08/24 05:58:07 (edited)
  • Katherine john ri... 2012/08/24 09:08:11
  • john ri... Katherine 2012/08/24 12:53:39
    john richardson
    I hear you and I agree somewhat but if Romney/Ryan gets rid of Obongo care and repairs the damaged military just those two things alone will make it worthwhile at least for me,mitt was not my choice but he's not a Marxist that hates US -UK and Israel with a passion, I respect ur opinion but understand I care for the country's I just mentioned and the R/R ticket will do much more to stay friends with those two great allies than O/B ticket and voting Romney in is at least now is crucial for their survival, bottom line Kathryn I love America and Obie hates it as it is
  • Katherine john ri... 2012/08/24 13:49:10 (edited)
    Katherine
    +1
    It's very thoughtful and generous to sacrifice the population of America for Israel, but Britain can't stand Romney and we need someone that won't turn the volatile situation in the middle east into World War III. We're about 6-7 hours from Israel by plane?, Iran is nearly their neighbor. I don't want anyone to die. We need diplomacy. Obama's managed to piss off about every friend we had left and armed our enemies. Not to mention the propaganda campaign against Israel has made them a lot of enemies. With threats of death and violence against anyone who tries to attack Israel, you can add a handful of European countries jumping in to kill both America and Israel -- Russia, China, Afghanistan, Venezuela, maybe North Korea, parts of the middle east just waiting for the opportunity to take us down. It's a very delicate situation. For all we know, Iran is effing with us because they know we'll jump to their defense, and we'll spend ourselves off the cliff where they can take us both down when they never had what it takes to do anything anyway. We really need diplomacy. No offense intended, but for lack of a better way to put it, I think this is just knee-jerk desperation, bad priorities, not knowing the big picture or something. Someone else posted a list of similar policies between Obama and Romney. Can't comment on it without having to clear up a couple. They will both run our country into the ground. He's not a republican.
  • john ri... Katherine 2012/08/24 14:55:17
    john richardson
    Neither is he a Marxist, and as far as that goes how can u have diplomacy with those who want to destroy us,how do we compromise with that? No one took Hitler serious at either and we did everything to have peace but it was to no avail just as today. The Iranian govt does want ww 3 to happen and Romney won't cause anything that won't happen already, katherene our potential enimies are preparing for war as soon as we become weak enough to attack and if obongo weakens our military by 80 per cent like he want that alone will start ww3
  • Katherine john ri... 2012/08/24 15:26:46 (edited)
    Katherine
    Just a socialist and when our credit means nothing we're finished. Ackmedwhatajod isn't Hitler, that gives him WAY too much credit and using Hitler for everything makes someone really comparable to him meaningless when it's been used so many times. Reagan talked to Gorb, didn't he? So you think the only option is to blow up Iran? I don't think you really care about America, but it's your vote. I wouldn't vote for either of them if someone put a gun to my head. JMO.
  • john ri... Katherine 2012/08/24 16:07:52
    john richardson
    The difference is gorbie didn't want ww3 and achmahd does , I'll take him at his word and to compare him to Hitler wasn't that far off base. He said he would destroy Israel then the US and he repeated that last week, I didn't mean to compare him to Hitler I was talking about not taking a threat serious and used the Nazis as an example which is what we did in the thirties. I know it's JYO but that's why I'm here to hear the other opinions

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