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Stop Demonizing Socialism’: Obamacare Supporters Demand ‘Free’ Healthcare After Supreme Court Ruling

Yo'Adrienne..AFCL 2012/07/08 16:22:52
will obamacare be free? http://www.theblaze.com/stories/stop-demonizing-socialism-oba...

Obamacare supporters demand free healthcare

Much has been made of the Supreme Court ruling on healthcare last Thursday, and for good reason. The ruling was historic not only in it’s precedent-setting but also in it’s confounding application. The media world exploded with analysts and experts hypothesizing what the obtuse SCOTUS (Supreme Court of the United States) decision will mean for every aspect of American life into the future.

The Blaze was there on the steps of the court when the ruling came down. While we will leave the hyperbole to the pundits, we did have one question that needed answering:

“What does the Left really want out of healthcare?”

So we followed up with the multitude of progressive protesters that showed up that morning on the steps of the court. As they marched in a circle with custom signs we asked them:

“Why do you support Obamacare?”


“Do you think healthcare should be free?”So free healthcare should be a right. That means doctors should work for free and then they should not have to pay for college, and of course colleges should not have to pay their teachers, and those that teach at college should not have to pay for groceries, and grocery stores then should not pay their workers because they aren’t making any money. Do you stupid socialists see where this is going?

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  • Greg 2012/07/18 21:09:07
    Greg
    It's the same slippery slope that ALL liberal thinking produces because liberals do not believe in absolutes. For example, abortion. Once you formulate a rationale as to why it is "okay" to murder the unborn, you can use that same rationale to murder anyone. Example: Obama has suggested himself that infants should be able to be killed for up to two months AFTER BIRTH "... because they are completely dependent upon the mother."

    It used to be birth that liberals used as their imaginary "standard" of what determined if a baby was "human" or not. But since that is completely void of supporting biological reality, ANY arbitrary "standard" will do that fits the convenience of the social order. Hence, why not kill ANYONE who is an inconvenience? Hence, Obama's suggestion. And hence, "do you stupid socialists see where this is going?" The Nazi-Socialists certainly did.
  • shaltov72 2012/07/14 02:28:01
    shaltov72
    The mind set of the left, is the most pathetic of all! This lack of education (more government stupidity) that never teaches responsibility, the john dewey marxist indoctrination centers of the Dept of Edumacation! Our tax dollars at work, and they want everything handed to them on a platter and you have to buy the platter. The obama mind set and all the rest of these progressive twits!
  • ehrhornp 2012/07/09 17:24:17 (edited)
    ehrhornp
    +1
    Healthcare should be paid for out of taxes. We should have a single payor universal health system like Canada and most other industrialized countries. We have a very inefficient system where we pay almost double what other industrialized countries pay and we get less results. We do not rank well on many indicators of a nation's health.



    I only support Nixon care as any improvement is better than what we got. You know with universal health care, doctors are still well paid. We have some friends in Germany, one of which is a doctor. They are very satisfied with their life. They are not hurting. And guess what he does not have to support a staff of clerical workers to process all the different forms that one finds in the United States.
  • Yo'Adri... ehrhornp 2012/07/09 23:34:49
    Yo'Adrienne..AFCL
    I know people in Mexico who are very satisfied with their lives......
    Shows you where their EXPECTATIONS lie!
    Gimme a break!
  • ehrhornp Yo'Adri... 2012/07/10 00:53:59
    ehrhornp
    Of course. Mexico looks like a duo society. You are either very rich or poor. Not much of a middle class.
  • Greg ehrhornp 2012/07/18 21:26:24
    Greg
    The inefficiencies are government created. Remove the regulations that disallow competition and lawyers (creating fear of a malpractice lawsuit) in the healthcare system, including insurance and providers, and you will see prices go DOWN and quality of care go UP. Period. Simple human economic behavior proven over centuries.

    And its a load of crap that the medical community in socialized nations are "well paid". By what standard? The same standard you use to determine that folks are "very satisfied" with their over-regulated lives? How empirical. So go there and live and get sick and see how it goes.

    Besides, I thought that the goal was "efficiency" not paying doctors "well". Which is it? Take any other industry and remove the profit motive and what do you get? GARBAGE. Why would it be any different with healthcare? Take any other asset and make it a "right" to be guaranteed by the government, and what do you have? NO RIGHTS--because once you make something a "right" you empower the government as the "provider" of the "right" and what you empower the government to give you YOU ALSO EMPOWER TO HAVE THEM TAKE IT AWAY.

    And history shows up time and again that that is exactly what happens every time. And this includes the right to LIFE itself. Abortion ruling ignored life as...
    The inefficiencies are government created. Remove the regulations that disallow competition and lawyers (creating fear of a malpractice lawsuit) in the healthcare system, including insurance and providers, and you will see prices go DOWN and quality of care go UP. Period. Simple human economic behavior proven over centuries.

    And its a load of crap that the medical community in socialized nations are "well paid". By what standard? The same standard you use to determine that folks are "very satisfied" with their over-regulated lives? How empirical. So go there and live and get sick and see how it goes.

    Besides, I thought that the goal was "efficiency" not paying doctors "well". Which is it? Take any other industry and remove the profit motive and what do you get? GARBAGE. Why would it be any different with healthcare? Take any other asset and make it a "right" to be guaranteed by the government, and what do you have? NO RIGHTS--because once you make something a "right" you empower the government as the "provider" of the "right" and what you empower the government to give you YOU ALSO EMPOWER TO HAVE THEM TAKE IT AWAY.

    And history shows up time and again that that is exactly what happens every time. And this includes the right to LIFE itself. Abortion ruling ignored life as a gift from the Creator and twisted it into something the government determines. And now we are not only snuffing out unborn babies, but also human beings AFTER birth for an ever-increasing list of "conditions" and "inconveniences". Universal Health Care will only enflame this snuffing out.
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  • Silvershadows 2012/07/09 04:23:18
    Silvershadows
    +2
    They have no idea what a can of worms that ruling has created! Demonizing Socialism?? They also have no idea what socialism really is and none of them have ever studied the history of countries that are socialist. Guys and Girls, nothing is free! Never. Someone has to pay for it and your hired power happy nutcases in government will take it by force from those that have it-----until it runs out! Then what?? Do they really think that creative hard-working people will work for free? Just so what they make and create can be taken and given to the non-productive???? Get a grip----unless you want everyone to be equal----equally poor. Progressive???? as in progress to the rear. The Socialist supporting fools are lazy and into easy consumption. No work, just party and do what makes them feel good. It'll stop----we've had it too good for too long and as long as these fools have their chips and beer they're happy. I was in college when the GREAT SOCIETY was started---I said then, "It's downhill from now on." In a Socialist Environment only the "leaders" (sic) have wealth----just as our government does now. Obama got down on Romney for being wealthy----while having a $35,000. per plate fund-raising dinner. How devious and criminal get they get? Many don't earn that much per year. Gonna get dicey.
  • ehrhornp Silvers... 2012/07/10 01:00:09
    ehrhornp
    +1
    lol, you are so full of contradictions it is pathetic. So you admit that Nixon was a socialist? How about Eisenhower?

    As for paying for it guess what? We are paying for it though higher insurance premiums. We pay close to double what other industrialized countries pay. Makes sense to you? Why? We don't even get better care as reflected by our standings in various health measurements.

    I am just curious, are you this aggressive when it comes to the true socialism in America? I am talking about the military industrial complex where the government will take care of you. They will provide room and board, clothing, medical care, and your own health fitness regimen.
  • Silvers... ehrhornp 2012/07/11 05:12:08
    Silvershadows
    Now, that is refreshing! Like socialism? Ike is listed ( I believe) as the 6th best President. Nixon was a tad "teched" at the end. Obama should resign like he did. IF you support Obama and Socialism it is you who is pathetic. Just like a typical liberal. The military industrial complex-----a moniker created by the progressives and libs. Yes, there is tremendous waste in the military and in governments in general. If Obama gets his way our military will be back to 1940 levels or worse. Government is to "Provide For The Common Defense" and Obe is leaving us wide open for an attack. TRUE Socialism?? You haven't the foggiest idea what that is!! THEY WILL PROVIDE??? Someone has to pay for it-----fool. Keep up stupid and with your view we'll be a 3rd world country (or worse). Perhaps you believe you'll be one of those in power??? Medical?? at the moment we have the most advance medical care in the world. It's become expensive partly because of the attorneys filing lawsuits. Medical providers pay more in insurance than most people make! Started going downhill with LBJ's Great Society. IF you believe in BIG government that can do everything for you??? Your are a classic FOOL.
  • ehrhornp Silvers... 2012/07/11 16:50:24
    ehrhornp
    Oh paranoid one how is Obama leaving us wide open? I think you have been brainwashed by the wacko media.

    I love it when people resort to calling names as it shows their arguments are weak. Your arguments are little more than propaganda points from Orwell's Oceania. I suggest you read that book, you might learn something.

    We are fast sinking to third world status due to republicans need to fight wars without paying for them and/or using a commie credit card. Prior to GW the US did not have much debt with China, then GW financed two wars using money from China. Way to go sucker. support communism.

    There are various reasons why we have the most expensive health care system, with low results, but lawsuits are not that big of a problem. How about duplication of services? In one 5 block radius in NYC there are 5 super advanced machines. Guess what, these machines need to generate income so doctors are encouraged to send patients there even thought he doctor knows that is not really needed.

    Guess what someone has to pay for our military industrial complex. What do we get out of it? Broken soldiers and pollution.
  • Silvers... ehrhornp 2012/07/12 01:27:49
    Silvershadows
    Well, Bud-----you are a total waste of time. I don't have the time on here to teach you factual history-----you've been so conditioned by the liberals you couldn't see truth and logic if it was detailed for you. Brainwashed-----you have been and like most of those types you refuse to think logically. I realize it's tough to admit you are wrong. Didn't even address the military cuts and how, in today's world, they will set us up for conquest. AH, LBJ, probably another of your heroes financed in part the Vietnam War with Social Security Funds. Bush over spent, true, borrowed, true, Obama makes Bush look like a piker. The medical machinery you refer to------necessary because of Attorney lawsuits and an over zealous government with required regulation. AND, you haven't read and researched nearly as much as I have or in depth-----I'm an Antiquarian Bookman, Librarian and Historian plus I served in the U.S. Army Medical Corps for 25 years. When I say you know nothing about Socialism----you know nothing.
  • ehrhornp Silvers... 2012/07/12 01:36:51
    ehrhornp
    Well you know very little. So you been sucking off the Gov.. tit for 25 years? That means my taxes paid for you income sucker. You work for me. Got that?

    I am so tired of socialists who only want it for themselves but for no one else. I think you have found Oceania. Orwell would be proud. As for cuts I see little need to spend close to what the rest of the world spends for its military. Shame you hated Eisenhower so much. Now run along little boy and continue sucking off the government tit as obviously you can't get a real job in the real world. You need to live in your socialistic little world where government takes care of you, provides you housing, food, clothing, even exercise. Heave help you if you should ever have to make a decision.
  • Silvers... ehrhornp 2012/07/17 02:00:28
    Silvershadows
    Now, that is a very impressive rant. You are a typical liberal/progressive using the divide/confuse technique. I won't waste my time on you, liberal scumbag. You are totally uninformed, uneducated doltish fool. You probably never served in the Military either.
  • ehrhornp Silvers... 2012/07/17 02:35:55
    ehrhornp
    No I haven't served in the military but I have paid taxes which supported your aggressive wars. Hell, you couldn't even prevent 9/11. Your name should be changed back to the war department as you sure have failed on defense.

    I can understand why you don't want to "waste my time on you". Oceania is your true desire. Well it sure isn't mine.
  • Silvers... ehrhornp 2012/07/18 02:34:06
    Silvershadows
    I can tell you were afraid to be in the military. You wouldn't want to put yourself in harm's way for your country----too inconvenient Just enjoy the benefits of this country and act smarmy with your inflated intelligence. You may??? have paid taxes but it was only to avoid punishment. The guys and gals in uniform have allowed you to feel safe, enjoy your toys and feel superior. Just how would you govern this country?? Like Obama?? Say, where and how did he become so wealthy? Keep hanging out with your Marxist friends, you are just like them.
  • ehrhornp Silvers... 2012/07/18 07:28:26
    ehrhornp
    No, I am just no sucker who believes every piece of crap the government spits out. Shame you are so gullible. I bet you believed Iraq had WMDs. I felt comfortable that it didn't because I didn't listen to the propaganda but read Scott Ritter. Guess what? He turned out to be right and all the idiots in America were proven wrong. So I am suppose to go to war to defend what exactly? Lies? Theft?

    Just remember I paid your salary so you work for me. Now get down and do 30 push ups. lol

    I don't have any marxist friends but I do have liberal friends and we know what will work and what won't. It is pathetic when phony conservatives tear apart their own history because they don't like a black leading the country.
  • Silvers... ehrhornp 2012/07/19 04:23:06
    Silvershadows
    Like all liberals you are besotted with your own worldview and vaunted intellect. You know very little but are quite sure you know everything. History?? you know nothing. Your snide comments and observation prove that. Right! Throw in the snide racist comment. That's all you dunderheads have. AH, our 1/2 black President isn't leading us anywhere but down. You haven't read his books and he refuses to discuss his abysmal record. If he's SO great why hasn't he helped his brother in Kenya?? He's sent billions off shore to prop up other countries. Complains Romney outsourced?? He makes Romney look good---but----your media outlets won't mention that. Get a grip libbie, you're wrong and were born wrong.
  • Southern Man 2012/07/08 20:17:56
    Southern Man
    +3
    OK I just watched the video and all I can say is CLUELESS this is our younger generation we are in big trouble
  • Yo'Adri... Souther... 2012/07/08 20:53:44
    Yo'Adrienne..AFCL
    +2
    i AGREE..my question is: what the hell happened.?????Where are the parents of these
    ignoramuses....Did they never discuss common sense with their children....Did they allow the
    schools to completely take over their minds???? Do they not have an opinion....themselves....worthy of passing on to the next generation?????? How could this have happened????? Clueless just doesn't CUT IT, you know what I mean???:-)
  • Souther... Yo'Adri... 2012/07/08 22:54:46
    Southern Man
    +2
    Yes I do ... Brainwashed I guess thats what they are
  • Southern Man 2012/07/08 20:12:06
    Southern Man
    +3
    Some one tell that fat pig she don't need birth control she is birth control and then tell her there is no free lunch
  • Yo'Adri... Souther... 2012/07/08 20:54:11
    Yo'Adrienne..AFCL
    +2
    bada boom!
  • Swampdog Souther... 2012/07/08 21:10:27
    Swampdog
    +1
    You took the words right out of my mouth,pink lard a$$ skank!
  • 3kidsandamom 2012/07/08 20:05:07
    3kidsandamom
    +1
    The concept that nothing in life is free seems to be eternally lost on liberals who want you to do all their work for them while they reap the benefits(so they think). By the time they realize their master is the government who made them promises of freebies without mentioning the catch that all must work to pay the government 100% of their wages to supply all the people's greeds (not needs) it will be far too late!
  • Yo'Adri... 3kidsan... 2012/07/08 20:56:14
    Yo'Adrienne..AFCL
    +2
    It's like a fantasty movie...I swear......!
  • relic 2012/07/08 18:22:31
    relic
    +3
    Seriously, why would the libtard woman pictured _NEED_ birth control OR contraception?
  • Wolf 2012/07/08 17:48:16
    Wolf
    +2
    There is no "free Healthcare" look at Europe and the Death Panels...what you become and elder...but remember Obamacare has no standing under the law after the Supreme Court ruling...the Court state the Law can be Constitutional as a tax...but the Bill was written and passed as a Penalty...hence for it to become a law Congress needs to amend or rewrite the Bill and pass it again...part of the Constitution "Separation of Powers Clause"...
  • shenendoah 2012/07/08 17:47:36
    shenendoah
    +2
    Someone is going to pay and liberals are okay with that as long as it isn't them. We all like free stuff but the thinking public realizes there is no such thing.
  • Yo'Adri... shenendoah 2012/07/08 20:59:14
    Yo'Adrienne..AFCL
    +2
    Ya know...I have always paid my way...and paid my due....I do not want anything that I don't work for or deserve......I will never take from those who really NEED....but I can't find this sentiment in this entire getneration!!!!
  • shenendoah Yo'Adri... 2012/07/09 01:21:44
    shenendoah
    +1
    I can't either and it really saddens me. Our country can only survive if we all do our part.
  • Yo'Adri... shenendoah 2012/07/09 23:36:05
    Yo'Adrienne..AFCL
    +1
    BOOM>...right on spot.!
  • chgo 2012/07/08 17:42:30
    chgo
    Would you prefer Romneycare?
  • relic chgo 2012/07/08 18:18:35
    relic
    +3
    At least Romneycare was legal. States have that right, the Federal Government does not. However, Romneycare shows you the disaster you can get when you compromise with dumbocraps.
  • chgo relic 2012/07/08 20:17:03
    chgo
    Federal Government does have that right. I suggest you start reading the constitution of the United States.
  • relic chgo 2012/07/08 21:03:33
    relic
    +2
    Are you seriously that dumb?
  • chgo relic 2012/07/09 01:42:50
    chgo
    Like I said, start reading it.
  • relic chgo 2012/07/09 02:23:36
    relic
    +1
    You already confirmed you were. You on't need to repeat it.
  • Yo'Adri... relic 2012/07/08 21:00:15
    Yo'Adrienne..AFCL
    +3
    thanks relic......but I don't think you'll ever convince that one.!
  • Yo'Adri... chgo 2012/07/08 20:59:50
    Yo'Adrienne..AFCL
    +2
    Ahh c'mon get a good reason to post a comment will ya? Beat it to death libturd......!
  • chgo Yo'Adri... 2012/07/09 01:46:12
    chgo
    The law is completely constitutional.

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