Stimulus Bill: Do you have a spending limit for the Government Stimulus Package?

by Fef Posted 2009/02/11 17:56:52

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		No Limit. Government knows best. We need to stimulate our way out of this.
		$4 trillion
		$3 trillion
		$2 trillion
		$1 trillion
		$500 billion
		$0. Zip. Zilch. Nada.
		Undecided (Please leave a comment)

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	No Limit. Government knows best. We need to stimulate our way out of this.	4 votes	8%
	$4 trillion	1 vote	2%
	$3 trillion	0 votes	0%
	$2 trillion	0 votes	0%
	$1 trillion	0 votes	0%
	$500 billion	4 votes	8%
	$0. Zip. Zilch. Nada.	30 votes	61%
	Undecided	10 votes	20%

The stimulus packages and bailouts may add up to over $3,000,000,000,000 (trillion). When will it stop? Will it help? What limit do you want to put on the total packages?

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Peggy 2009/02/11 18:43:07

Undecided

+4
I can not get my brain around numbers that high. Right now I believe in the stimulas package proposed. Who was it that said "you have to spend money to make money"? Seems to me that is what people, with a lot more money than I have, do to keep their income growing. Bail outs need rules and guidelines attached, rebuilding america while giving americans jobs soulds like a good plan to me. The roads and bridges in our country are in need of repair. The back door deals made in Washington, in the practice of "I'll sign your bill if I I I can have______ or I'll sign yours if you will sign mine.....has to stop. We did not elect these men and women to broker deals. We elected them to represent the majority of those who voted them in. I believe the stimulas package will pass, with or without, the rebublican vote. When it works, the republicans will have to scramble to explain their inaction. Most polls show americans are in favor of the presidents ideas & ideals of how to get our economy going.
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David 2009/02/12 03:09:25

$0. Zip. Zilch. Nada.

+2
Any more government spending just takes money out of citizens pockets. It hurts it doesn't help.

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Fef to David 2009/02/12 19:30:21

Let me try to understand your position. The government wants to take our tax money, then give the money back to us in a government designed program and call it stimulating? And, for good measure, spend the tax money they haven't collected yet from our kids' kids?

You don't trust the people to keep their hard earned money, do you? We've seen in the past that the free markets don't work. They just go out and buy things they can't afford. Get with the program!

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Molly to Fef 2009/02/17 02:03:40

+1
You are wrong. I love the free market it works. I would rather have my own money to spend where I like. Not have it taken from me and given to you to spend.

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Molly to Fef 2009/03/07 22:40:38

Free markets do work without government intervention picking the winners. That is what they want you to believe I think you need to lay off the kool aid and heal yourself from you hangover. . Free markets do work and thanks to your vote we will never see them again.

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troyspud 2009/02/12 03:07:17

$0. Zip. Zilch. Nada.

+1
they gave corp america this first bail out and it didnt do any good for the tax paying american People. Jobs and fore closers have been on an increase with no stopping until something is really done

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Bill - Buffalo Soldier 2009/02/12 02:32:39

$500 billion

+2
Max and that in tax cuts such as payroll taxes, investments, small business

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diaverde08-AmericanKilljoy 2009/02/12 00:00:12

$0. Zip. Zilch. Nada.

+2
$0
The government's responsibility is to protect our rights and liberties, not spend our money.

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Angel 2009/02/11 22:27:06

Undecided

+1
take out everything in the stimulus except what will actually stimulate the economy , what is that 4%.... ?

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Fef to Angel 2009/02/12 19:32:03

+1
I sill don't understand how the gov wants to stimulate the economy by taking our money and then giving it back?

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Angel to Fef 2009/02/12 21:16:30

+1
I don't think the economy will be stimulated from this package at all...
I think it will only put us into a deeper recession

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Dwight Mann 2009/02/11 22:09:16

$0. Zip. Zilch. Nada.

+2
Give the money to the American people, and they will spend themselves out of this economic catastrophe. It is a lot of money. . .

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Jess 2009/02/11 22:01:27

$500 billion

+2
Spend it all on permanent tax cuts and programs to keep homeowners in their homes OR give it all back to each and every single taxpayer, who paid taxes in 2007

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Bman 2009/02/11 21:11:45

No Limit. Government knows best. We need to stimulate our way out of this.

+2
Please stimulate me.

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Fef to Bman 2009/02/11 21:13:10

+1
Government stimulus authors:

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Bman to Fef 2009/02/11 21:14:04

+1
Looks like self-stimulation!

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Fef to Bman 2009/02/12 19:32:57

That would save the government a lot of our money

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Seonag 2009/02/11 20:33:00

$0. Zip. Zilch. Nada.

+2
From what I have seen of the current stimulus package, it will not stimulate much of anything in the near future. the $700 B last fall sure didn't do much except maybe line the pocket of some on Wall Street. The bill now before the House is a spending bill and any spending bill from Congress needs to be closely scrutinized and it appears our 'leaders' do not want us doing that!

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Turtle Chell 2009/02/11 20:20:38

$0. Zip. Zilch. Nada.

+1
they never should have started handing out money, when will it end???

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Fef to Turtle ... 2009/02/11 21:13:41

+3
It won't until the people vote these clowns out of office.

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Turtle ... to Fef 2009/02/11 21:25:20

+3
i don't think voting helps, i think they will do whatever they want regardless of what the rest of us think.

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ChloeNAydensmom 2009/02/11 20:12:38

Undecided

+1
I think there should be a lot of *higher ups* pay cuts for starters, There is no reason some of them should be making what they're making. Same thing with the damn bank bail out, some of them people should have had pay cuts, and further more, if they split the money up and divided it between all the tax paying citizens it would have been a lot better!

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Brit 2009/02/11 20:02:56

Undecided

+1
Something does need to happen. Because the government can help and in ways (not all) caused this problem, I think they should.
How they should help is the issue. Tax cuts, loaning money to those industries which were directly effected by the poor financial planning/policies/practices of the past decade or so that are hurting most at this time (the porn and gambling industries I don't feel fall in this category), and so on are all good ideas only if done right.
The value of what money that is necessary I have no idea. I don't know what those industries need to wisely get back on their feet. I don't feel it should simply just be paying them for their losses. That money should be spent in ways to actually fix the problem, not just cover the leak. For example, money could be spent to train the clueless executives how to be properly compensated for their efforts (an anti-gluttonously hoarding profit approach). Since it is taxpayer money, I feel that whatever stipulations need to be put on how that money is used is just and fair.
There are literally thousands of ideas of how this recovery could be done right. The two main ideas from the House and the Senate will certainly not make everyone happy, but, as elected representatives from our states, they are doing their best. It will be interesting to see how it all unfolds.

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Roundabout ~ Pepe is my soc... 2009/02/11 19:36:55

$0. Zip. Zilch. Nada.

+1
I just don't think this package or Geithner's package are going to work. No one seems to understand it in its' entirety. It was too hastily put together. Could be very costly mistakes simply to make good on the administrations promises and their ideology.

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David 2009/02/11 19:25:42

$0. Zip. Zilch. Nada.

+1
It's a costly mistake. We should think twice and pay once.

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Fef to David 2009/02/11 19:28:35

The government (both under GW Bush and Obama) both stressed the importance of doing this quickly. Since when has government done anything quickly?

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David to Fef 2009/02/11 23:39:52

+1
Haste makes waste. And that is what the government does best.

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Kanaka Rican - Now's the ti... 2009/02/11 18:56:32 (edited)

Undecided

+2
You know Fef....he keeps saying this is uncharted territory....I remember a few recessions we have gone through and come out of and I can not remember this amount of money even being talked about. I realize this is real and people are losing jobs and business are going under and people are losing homes.....hasen't this happened during other recessions before? I also realize there are banks in the mix here as well....but we tried bailing them out with unheard of billions of dollars and it's obviously not the answer!

My answer is this, if this stimulus package is revealed and all the pork is taken out, if the medical small print is taken out, if they leave the roads and bridges in, if they leave the actual job creating projects in, we would have a stimulus package that would be acceptable.....and guess what...they could put more money in our pockets monthly by cutting taxes.

If they did this, they could add in the "second leg to his stool" (LOL) and add in some provisions that would aide people who need help with their mortgages....

The money they are talking about is nuts....just like them!

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Peggy 2009/02/11 18:43:07

Undecided

+4
I can not get my brain around numbers that high. Right now I believe in the stimulas package proposed. Who was it that said "you have to spend money to make money"? Seems to me that is what people, with a lot more money than I have, do to keep their income growing. Bail outs need rules and guidelines attached, rebuilding america while giving americans jobs soulds like a good plan to me. The roads and bridges in our country are in need of repair. The back door deals made in Washington, in the practice of "I'll sign your bill if I I I can have______ or I'll sign yours if you will sign mine.....has to stop. We did not elect these men and women to broker deals. We elected them to represent the majority of those who voted them in. I believe the stimulas package will pass, with or without, the rebublican vote. When it works, the republicans will have to scramble to explain their inaction. Most polls show americans are in favor of the presidents ideas & ideals of how to get our economy going.

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Fef to Peggy 2009/02/11 18:54:59

+1
just think of it like this. You have 1,000 friends. Those 1,000 each invite 1,000 new friends. Those 1,000,000 people each invite 1,000 new friends. Then, those 1,000,000,000 each invite 1,000 friends. That makes 1,000,0000,000,0000. I hope I got that straight. Maybe I missed a few zeroes ;)

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chiglet... to Peggy 2009/02/12 04:53:44

+1
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Skeeter -Hmm, Hmm, Hmm 2009/02/11 18:36:01 (edited)

$0. Zip. Zilch. Nada.

+1
Nothing as it is not a stimulus but a spending, payback bill. One of the items I saw in the bill was $500,000 for a dog park where they could run without a leash. I've had that for years. It's called a back yard.

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Fef to Skeeter... 2009/02/11 18:55:51

+1
But you don't have friends in DC or they would expand your backyard and pay you for it.

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Skeeter... to Fef 2009/02/11 19:05:39

+1
I meant to say leash referring to the dogs. Sorry, if that was confusing. I don't want any friends in DC as others may associate me with them.

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Fef to Skeeter... 2009/02/11 19:29:16

+1
We should put our friends in DC on leashes... we already have them on leases, but they keep getting re-elected somehow.

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Skeeter... to Fef 2009/02/11 21:10:34

+1
The ones that keep reelecting them keep letting them off the leash because they are thrown a bone around election time and forget everything else over the previous years.

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Paul Revere 2009/02/11 18:23:34

$0. Zip. Zilch. Nada.

+1
The only thing the government should be doing is nothing.

Rahm Emanuel stated "don't waste a serious crisis".

Charles Schumer stated, "...sure their are some Porkie items....Americans don't care about that".

Doesn't anybody get it yet? The Liberal doctrine mandates the creation of chaos. It is the only assurance they have to retain power. Even they state the Act won't have any impact until after 2010.

If there was a year-long tax holiday, it would cost $50 billion less and have immediate impact the day it was signed. The only problem with that, is the solution doesn't really involve government. Therefore, no power could be gained from it.

Thanks...thanks everybody for the $217,000 additional tax burden you put on my daughter when you voted Nov. 4

Paybacks are a bitch.

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Fef to Paul Re... 2009/02/11 18:56:30

+3
Don't forget that GW Bush opened the floodgates to this.

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Paul Re... to Fef 2009/02/11 19:05:44

+1
Believe me when I say I don't. He is, what I classiy, a fiscal socialist.

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Magzilla 2009/02/11 18:15:21

$0. Zip. Zilch. Nada.

+2
This is a total misuse of our tax dollars and it is going to do nothing to improve our situation, it is actually hurting our economy more.

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novotew... to Magzilla 2009/02/11 18:38:37

+1
good call!

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