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'Stand Your Ground' panel suggests basically no changes to Florida's self-defense Is Florida's "Stand your Ground" a good law?

CAPISCE 2012/11/21 16:01:25
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TALLAHASSEE — Created in the wake of national uproar over Trayvon Martin's shooting death, a 19-member task force spent six months traveling the state and taking public testimony about Florida's most controversial self-defense law.

The result? Little, if anything, will change.

The task force commissioned by Gov. Rick Scott to review the "stand your ground" law prepared its final report Tuesday, indicating that the law is mostly fine as it is.

In a report to the Legislature, the group offered up only minor tweaks to the law — including changes that could actually make it easier to claim self-defense after killing someone.
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  • Wulfdane 2012/11/21 17:22:54 (edited)
    YES
    Wulfdane
    +7
    Stand your ground is working as it should.

    If someone is trying to manipulate "stand your ground" to commit a crime, law enforcement will investigate and prosecute if necessary. You will never keep people from trying to abuse the law, any law and the fact people will abuse laws doesn't negate them.

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  • TidBit 2012/11/25 02:28:37
    YES
    TidBit
    You either defend yourself or be victimized.
  • Greg 2012/11/23 17:20:51
    YES
    Greg
    +1
    I have a right to defend my family against an armed attacker. The police cannot always be there when needed. 911 is good when someone is having a medical crisis, but not when you are being robbed.
  • doomsquirrel 2012/11/23 03:21:56
    YES
    doomsquirrel
    +2
    it gets thugs off the street like this one
    thug
  • CAPISCE doomsqu... 2012/11/23 13:38:05
    CAPISCE
    +1
    Nice photo but more like this
    adult trayvon martin
  • doomsqu... CAPISCE 2012/11/23 14:29:24 (edited)
    doomsquirrel
    +2
    i could have gotten all those ones when he was 12 but this one was the most popular one shown, the photo shopped one
  • CAPISCE doomsqu... 2012/11/23 17:20:17
    CAPISCE
    very true
  • doomsqu... doomsqu... 2012/11/24 06:37:40
    doomsquirrel
    cut thug face out, photo shop 12 year old face in the hoodie, media has a great sob story
  • jujunme doomsqu... 2012/12/27 20:06:20
    jujunme
    You are pathetic!
  • doomsqu... jujunme 2012/12/28 06:30:59
    doomsquirrel
    sorry to say it but the news isn't really news anymore. its all about the ratings now
  • santa6642 2012/11/22 02:45:02
    YES
    santa6642
    +1
    And should be thru out the nation., The sign on my doors states I do not call 911, And you will never be heard of.
  • Prime Time Lime 2012/11/22 00:43:07 (edited)
    no
    Prime Time Lime
    It is a terrible law and many will lose their innocent lives because of it. Florida state is a right to die state,if anyone can kill another when stalking them,after the police told them to leave things be.
  • CAPISCE Prime T... 2012/11/22 00:47:15
    CAPISCE
    +4
    The people of Florida request you stay the hell out of our State.
    Thank You
  • Prime T... CAPISCE 2012/11/22 00:50:43
    Prime Time Lime
    Thanks,I will. I lived their for years and know the state of mind of many in that state.
  • CAPISCE Prime T... 2012/11/22 01:08:15
    CAPISCE
    +1
    I live her now and love it, melting pot of the country with a Southern Twist
  • Prime T... CAPISCE 2012/11/22 01:10:31
    Prime Time Lime
    The culture is fine,the gun laws I do not agree with.
  • CAPISCE Prime T... 2012/11/22 01:12:22
    CAPISCE
    +2
    You would if someone broke into your home
  • CAPISCE Prime T... 2012/11/22 01:30:27
    CAPISCE
    +1
    Fair enough
  • santa6642 Prime T... 2012/11/22 02:45:56
  • Greg Prime T... 2012/11/23 16:58:54
    Greg
    +1
    I'm sorry, when did Canadians get a vote on anything that happens in ANY state in the US? I must have missed that constitutional amendment getting ratified.
  • Jeff Prime T... 2012/11/24 06:32:25 (edited)
    Jeff
    Why do you think the guy that shot him is still in a FL jail awaiting the trial?

    What is a Right to Die State? As far as I know, every state lets people die everyday because it's natural end of life.
  • Chiron8839 2012/11/22 00:22:20
    no
    Chiron8839
    +1
    I voted no, but let me qualify that by saying that in cases where the shooter precipitates the conflict, and the victim was not trespassing or attempting to physically harm or kill anyone, the shooter should stand trial. I said from the outset, before George Zimmerman had been charged at all, and the talk was about the possibility of a manslaughter charge, that he should be charged with 2nd degree murder, because I believe the facts support the charge.
  • Lady Whitewolf 2012/11/21 21:50:52
    YES
    Lady Whitewolf
  • Charles White 2012/11/21 20:57:53
    no
    Charles White
    +2
    HELL NO! ! ! we do not live in the wild wild west. I believed all handguns and every gun that is powerful than a 22 rifle should be banned. Only the military and state police should carry weapons. Any person get caught having a gun in their possession after the banned be sentence to life in prison automatic without parole. Cause the only reason to have such a weapon is to killed other humanbeings. I also think stand your ground give individuals the right to shoot first without just cause. We are a civilized nation that supposed to think rational not barbarian.
  • Greg Charles... 2012/11/23 17:18:23
    Greg
    Seeing as how it is ILLEGAL to hunt with a rifle, your comment is extremely ignorant of the facts. Outlawing shotguns will cost a lot of people a lot of time and money. Shotguns are not only useful for game hunting (BTW, most if not all game hunted for sport is eaten.) but also protect livestock from predators and allowing deer hunting actually keeps the deer from suffering due to over population. Also, outlawing hand guns would disenfranchise the disabled who may not be able to handle a shotgun.

    Not only that, but if only the police and military are allowed to have guns, what would keep a commander-in-chief from declaring martial law and taking ALL of our rights away? Not that I think the current CIC would do such a thing, but his successor or even a rogue general might. If we step back into the realm of the less paranoid, the police aren't always there when you need them most. It is my right to protect my family from an armed attacker, who would still manage to get his hands on a gun illegally. Gun laws do NOT keep guns out of the hands of criminals. As for "nothing more powerful than..." arguments: who gets to decide that? One group may draw that line in a much different place. Again, such laws do NOT keep higher powered firearms out of the hands of criminals, so it is again important that everyone have legal access to them. Before you object, some paranoia is healthy. If we are too trusting, we will get hurt. The trick is to find the right balance.
  • Charles... Greg 2012/11/23 23:43:53
    Charles White
    Thank you far sharing your opinion. In my area you can hunt with any weapon you choose. The only people who would be affected by cost are gun makers. You can still protect your livestock, property and hunt with a 22 rifle, bow and arrows, a knife and a stick you will have to become more skillful. The CIC can declare martial law and take away our right wherter we got guns or not. If there no handguns or powerful rifle you will have a better chance that you and your predator will be able to live to fight another day. Banning handguns and powerful rifle may not stop criminal from getting their hands on a gun or rifle but either have gun ownership. I truly believed the country would be a safer and less crime without handguns and powerful rifles. Also by us not trusting others, we are still getting hurt and dying senseless. I agree with you whole hearty about finding the right balance. I understand that this is a hot button for many, but can we be open to a difference point of view with name calling.
  • Retta 2012/11/21 19:16:21
    no
    Retta
    +2
    Being a member of a neighborhood watch does NOT mean you should be armed or take the law into your own hands. If you see suspicious activity, call the authorities and let them investigate the situation. This was a travesty that this young man was killed when he had done nothing wrong.
  • CAPISCE Retta 2012/11/22 21:31:44
    CAPISCE
    +1
    You were there? Do tell exactly what happened
  • Prime T... Retta 2012/11/23 17:27:51 (edited)
    Prime Time Lime
    +1
    I agree,what happened to Mr. Martin was a tragedy and his shooter should be put in prison for what he has done.This law should be drastically changed so people like Zimmerman do not get away with murder.He is the thug in this case and took the law into his own hands and should be paying for it.
    thug
  • Mytstar ~PWCM~JLA 2012/11/21 19:08:25
    YES
    Mytstar ~PWCM~JLA
    +4
    dont really care if it is a law or not... I will defend myself with deadly force... if I feel I have to... I dont need no stinking law to say I can or cant
  • Stratweenie57 2012/11/21 18:23:32
    YES
    Stratweenie57
    +5
    Need more states to adopt similar laws.The small Atlanta suburb of Kennesaw has an interesting law. It states that all property owners inside the city limits must own at least one handgun. The city also has one of if not the lowest gun crime rates in the entire country because of it. Take that,gun control idiots...
  • Mytstar... Stratwe... 2012/11/21 19:10:52
    Mytstar ~PWCM~JLA
    +2
    I believe the same sort of law is in a town called Virgin Utah
  • Chiron8839 Stratwe... 2012/11/22 00:25:24
    Chiron8839
    +1
    But how do you know the low crime rate there is "because of" the local ordinance requiring handgun possession?
  • Stratwe... Chiron8839 2012/11/22 00:33:07
    Stratweenie57
    +1
    It's a'burb of Atlanta,which at one time rivaled northern cities as murder and other violent crime capitols. Kennesaw passed the law nd violent crime dropped tbru the floor.
  • Chiron8839 Stratwe... 2012/11/22 00:34:41
    Chiron8839
    That still doesn't demonstrate a cause-effect relationship. (Post hoc, ergo propter hoc.)
  • Stratwe... Chiron8839 2012/11/22 00:41:24
    Stratweenie57
    +1
    Then nothing I tell you make any difference.But the people of Kennesaw know the truth,and so do I.
  • Chiron8839 Stratwe... 2012/11/22 00:51:32
    Chiron8839
    +1
    No, because the "truth" you're offering is in the form of a logical fallacy. You haven't demonstrated a causal relationship, yet you say you have.
  • Stratwe... Chiron8839 2012/11/22 01:58:27
    Stratweenie57
    Whatever,effete snob.
  • Chiron8839 Stratwe... 2012/11/22 02:00:22
  • Ozzyboy 2012/11/21 18:12:09
    YES
    Ozzyboy
    +2
    Generally speaking. There are times when it is abused but self defense should be a basic right.
  • Todd Parsons 2012/11/21 17:34:12

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