Someone (on this site) who is supportive of the freedom to abortion asserts "abortion is none of the government's business". That SAME someone argues in support of taxpayer funding of abortion. Do these two opinions contradict each other?
J.W. Howler
2012/05/08 14:30:58
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The Black Dagger 2012/05/08 14:46:11YES - the two opinions are DEFINITELY CONTRADICTORY to each other
+23It's definitely contradictory. If they don't want the government to tell them they can't have an abortion then they have no right to expect the government to force me to pay for the abortion.
"The American Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers that it can bribe the public with the public's money." -- Alexis de Tocqueville
“If people let the government decide what foods they eat and what medicines they take, their bodies will soon be in as sorry a state as are the souls of those who live under tyranny.” - Thomas Jefferson
Truer words than these were never spoken.
Mankind causes all his problems because he CHOOSES to discard past experiences that tell him exactly what will happen. Solomon wrote two verses of scripture that fully explains mankind’s folly in the matter; “The thing that hath been, it is that which shall be; and that which is done is that which shall be done: and there is no new thing under the sun.” (Ecclesiastes 1:9)
AND; “That which hath been is now; and that which is to be hath already been; and God requireth that which is past.” (Ecclesiastes 3:15)
The New Testament scripture that covers this topic is James 1:14-15; “But every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed. Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death.”
The trouble is that when the government sins it brings death to the country. God makes promises based on his commandments. In the subject in view here, we find this in the first books of the Word of God;
“But if ye will not hearken unto me, and will not do all these commandments; And if ye shall despise my statutes, or if your soul abhor my...
Mankind causes all his problems because he CHOOSES to discard past experiences that tell him exactly what will happen. Solomon wrote two verses of scripture that fully explains mankind’s folly in the matter; “The thing that hath been, it is that which shall be; and that which is done is that which shall be done: and there is no new thing under the sun.” (Ecclesiastes 1:9)
AND; “That which hath been is now; and that which is to be hath already been; and God requireth that which is past.” (Ecclesiastes 3:15)
The New Testament scripture that covers this topic is James 1:14-15; “But every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed. Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death.”
The trouble is that when the government sins it brings death to the country. God makes promises based on his commandments. In the subject in view here, we find this in the first books of the Word of God;
“But if ye will not hearken unto me, and will not do all these commandments; And if ye shall despise my statutes, or if your soul abhor my judgments, so that ye will not do all my commandments, but that ye break my covenant: I also will do this unto you; I will even appoint over you terror, consumption, and the burning ague, that shall consume the eyes, and cause sorrow of heart: and ye shall sow your seed in vain, for your enemies shall eat it. And I will set my face against you, and ye shall be slain before your enemies: they that hate you shall reign over you; and ye shall flee when none pursueth you. (Leviticus 26:15-18)
The founding Fathers of this country knew this well. Many think that Israel fell due to its government only, but that is plainly made a false assessment because if one reads the story of Sodom and Gomorra, they find that IF a majority of the population had been against the nature of the two cities, they would have been spared. The same situation is shown to be true in the story of Jonah and the city of Nineveh.
The only *business* of the government as regards abortion is: does abortion violate another person's rights, or not? To say that "it's none of the government's business," is to say that the unborn child has no standing before the government. But it *also* says that if you want to get one, you're on your own.
The poll question has to do with the potentially contradiction by a person who supports the freedom to abort (freedom to choose) EXPLICITLY stating that ABORTION is NONE of the government's business, while simultaneously stating that he SUPPORTS the government's FUNDING of it.
The only part of your comment that relates at all to the poll question is - "No where in the discussion should the government be involved."
The core issue is whether the government SHOULD be involved or SHOULD NOT be involved directly or indirectly in such a procedure.
The person who made the assertion that the government SHOULD NOT be involved ALSO made the assertion that the government SHOULD be involved -- via PAYING FOR THEM with taxpayer FUNDS.
Regardless of the above explanation, answer this -
Should the government be allowed use taxpayer dollars to fund abortions?...YES or NO?
Should the government be allowed use taxpayer dollars to fund abortions?...YES or NO?
I realize you are liberal-leaning, so I should also realize you can't directly answer such a question.
Good day to you, thanks for the best wishes on my poll...lol
Best wishes to you on your inability to directly answer a question...Hopefully you will have better luck on the polls of others since you won't be on another of mine.
He says in one comment - "Yes the government should support all woman's health issues, e.g. abortion."
He says in another statement - "No where in the discussion should the government be involved (regarding abortion)."
Now, when one understands that HE himself equates and includes abortion to and as a "health-related issue", he is actually contradicting himself.
The same people who want the govt (read: Taxpayers) to pay for abortions also want the govt (Taxpayers again) to pay for their birth control.
Rights come with responsibilities ! I don't want to pay for her bad judgement. I am tired of paying for governmental bad judgement also.
Would the same people that believe they are two separate issues give money to someone with no idea of what the money was to be used for?
Of course not.
How about if the money was to be used for something the one with the money totally OBJECTED to?
Let those who wish to kill their inconvenient babies do so on their own dime.
living off funds that were meant for the truly disabled- with no care what happens to the real disabled when funds run out- it makes those propping the system up want reform... Because things were not meant to run this way- and chasing after some ideological notion of fairness to all, is impossible to achieve, and just continually creates a longer list of inequalities that people THINK need to be "FIXED". It's impossible. That's why it is better and MORE HUMANE to encourahlge people to rely on themselves.
busi·ness [ bíznəss ]
1.line of work: a particular trade or profession
2.commercial organization: a company or other organization that buys and sells goods, makes products, or provides services
3.commercial activity: commercial activity involving the exchange of money for goods or services
See definition number 3.
DIRECTLY says that if they pay it is their "business".
I have had one abortion in Australia and payed for it myself.
No come back comments please about having an abortion, it was for a very valid reason which I will not discuss any further.