SODAHEAD STRAW POLL: Who will win the Pennsylvania Primary?
SodaHead Politics
2008/04/22 18:33:30
The long lapse between primaries has finally ended, and today Pennsylvania voters will make a choice that could solidify a nominee in the neck and neck Democratic race. We want to know what you guys think... Do you think the Pennsylvania voters will vote for Hillary Clinton, who has been in the lead in most Pennsylvania polls thus far; or Barack Obama, who despite being behind Hillary, has seen his campaign steadily gain momentum the past couple weeks?
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Shelvis 2008/04/22 23:17:15Hillary Clinton






















The funny thing is, it doesn't matter, she has lost.
We need power in the White house, not someone who protects a Pastor who talks so bad about the United States. and for someone to say we hang on to our Religion & Guns. well thats right. our for Fathers fought so we could have that freedom, and if We do not put "GOD" first in every thing and first in our lives, well we just lost the battle, and everyone knows this. God made and God can take. and I do not want to stand before God and say that we are putting Man & Money an...""""
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We need power in the White house, not someone who protects a Pastor who talks so bad about the United States. and for someone to say we hang on to our Religion & Guns. well thats right. our for Fathers fought so we could have that freedom, and if We do not put "GOD" first in every thing and first in our lives, well we just lost the battle, and everyone knows this. God made and God can take. and I do not want to stand before God and say that we are putting Man & Money and other Idols before him just so we can look good before Man, no because someone who puts God before and works through God can not "FAIL" did you hear me (" CAN NOT FAIL") the Bible tells us so. People have FAITH the word of God is so true. and no I am not a Religious person. my Faith is in a Relationship, with our Heavenly Father. and no we should not currupt God with our messed up Government, but let God be and lead our Government, like he had done when he assigned Kings to rule the land.
Why are People scared of a Woman running our Country, well take that fear and know that all around would be just as scared!
who runs most of the house holds? who also dose what they have to
to not get their Wives upset with them because their lives would be a living hell?
Well do you not think we need that kind of power to run this Country,
and bring back Jobs to the American People, and bring the Econmey back to were we dont have to live Check to check and still falling behind.l
we should be free again, we have not seen freedom with either one of the Bushes. most of all Baby Bush! and you know he could care less about you or I. all he cares about is Power & Money.
we need someone who really cares about our health and getting coverage for all, and we know Hillary cares about this, because we have seen her in action, When Bill was in office that was her pet peeve, and we all started seeing the difference in her work,
what more do you think She can do already having a plan that works, and She has hade time to profect it, in stead of building a plan like before that was working!!!
I will take Action over smooth talking.
we have seen Action with Hillary,
and Smooth talking has done nothing but get us in trouble in all of the PAST.
but also Remember this as well.
If Mccane gets voted in, he shares the same mind set as BUSH, and we will not see our Family & Friends come home. and also he is not in the best of health, and he is already at the Males life expectancy. if he Dies guess who would fill his Shoes?
We would be better with Hitler.
Everyone complains about how the Democrats are attacking each other, "WHAT' do you think this is all about. who can show their Strength and who can Win by actions, not fancy words. what do you do when you debate you do what you have to. to win.
the World dose worse than that, when they open Peoples personal lives, and guess what. everyone lines up to read about it, and Prejudge everyone. look at your own lives work on fixing yourself.
Stop trying to live everyones life for them, do you like People getting in to your Koolaid? NO I know I don't and I know you don't. so let Peoples Personal life be just that their life. stop Judging, that is Gods job not yours.
God knows we are not Perfect thats why he sent JESUS to save us from ourselves. so stop thinking our Leaders have to be Perfect.. nobody is. thank God for Jesus in our lives who makes it possible for to have Salvation!!!
Look at actions and who Claims Jesus as their Personal Lord and Savior, who has a Relationship with our Father in Heaven, not a Religion. and you will see someone who God would like to lead up back to freedom,
God wants us to be Prosperious and Strong, not controlled by what we have built as our Government. lets take IT BACK. it's ours "LETS TAKE IT BACK" pick a leader who wants to give it back to the People it belongs, and not just for Power.
I mean if you look at Obama, telling Hillary to just quit and give up because there is no way for her to win, that is a serge for POWER!
and look Hillary, has not given up, what dose that tell you. She is willing
to fight for us until the bitter end.
Sure Obama would make a good President, in time not now.
He needs to get some Experience under his belt, Let Hillary bring us out of the Mess that the worthless wast of skin Bush has gotten us in, give her two terms, and then if Obama stays with it, and learns something other that smooth talking, and start taking ACTION. then he will be ready.. That dose not happen by just coming out of the woodwork and saying I want to be President. Don't let the Media influence you don't let People Family Friends Preachers, tell you what to do. you are your own Person, stop being led by false Proffits, look were that got the Mormans. Putting their Faith in a Man, who was a Drunk and couldn't get enough of exploiting Women. he had to write a book and say he was a proffit of God. well the Bible straight out say's "DO NOT REWRITE OR ALTER THESE WORDS FOR IT IS WRITTEN" what is the book of Morman, it is a rewrite of what a Man thought it should say to lead many many GOOD People astray. Well it worked. Why can we not go in to their Temples? when Jesus said come as you are? and just what have they done to Women behind their closed doors? I sure would not want my Wife subject to that...
well I have said my piece Think for your selves People.
Pray about it. and Pray to Our Father in Heaven through Jesus as your Lord and Savior. because we serve a Sovern God, who wants to take care of his People if we Let him. lets put him back in the Schools and the Streets and back in our Finances. Most of all "BACK IN OUR HEARTS"
and lets watch the Power of God move throughout the LAND, he Created.
Thank you for reading this, now Pray about it.
Sincerely Ray Gilbert
Bountiful Utah.
Take her lies and save them for 2012.
Just type in hillary and you will learn more than you could ever want to know about her. The little crap they have on Obama is nothing next to the Clinton's.
Yes, Pennsylvania!!
P.S. Manda, the Clintons did not destroy the world or the nation when President Clinton was in the Office.
I don't know how old you are but you may need to go back to school and take History 101. For your information, President Bill Clinton, has a legacy. The best President in a long time. He took us out of a trillion dollar Deficit and brought it to a trillion dollar surplus.
During the Clintons we went to war in Iraq due to weapon of mass destruction. President Clinton ordered Air Strikes on an area where the production of weapons of mass destruction were being manufactured. Again his strategy in going to war was brilliant and we did not have one fatality.
There are many other things that happen due to his intelligence but you need to do your own research before you make statements out of ignorance like the one you posted.
But don't worry, because I'm just getting warmed up! Did you forget his mistress in Arkansas Jeinifer Flowers, what about the phone sex tapes with one of his staff members, I could go on and on about his countless affairs, but I'm sure you get the picture! Did you forget about the cocaine scandel, the smuggling of it, that is!
But let's talk about the good stuff! Have you forgotten about Whitewater? What about the Major Bank Fraud they committed with their Let. Governor in A...
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But don't worry, because I'm just getting warmed up! Did you forget his mistress in Arkansas Jeinifer Flowers, what about the phone sex tapes with one of his staff members, I could go on and on about his countless affairs, but I'm sure you get the picture! Did you forget about the cocaine scandel, the smuggling of it, that is!
But let's talk about the good stuff! Have you forgotten about Whitewater? What about the Major Bank Fraud they committed with their Let. Governor in Arkansas, who was convicted while in their staff. What about the 14 convictions of the Clinton White House administration, and Arkansas pals they did their illegal business with, I think you forgot that part while reminscing down memory lane!
And I don't think you really want to talk about Barack Obama's distant affilliation with Bill Ayers, Unless you are willing to ask your girl, Hillary, why HER HUSBAND, BILL CLINTON, PARDON TWO CONVICTED MEMBERS OF THE WEATHER UNDERGROUND BEFORE HE LEFT THE WHITE HOUSE! When you have the answer to this question, not to mention all the other statements made by me, then you can talk about some alleged terriorst, who was never convicted of a crime. I know your memory is selective so let me remind you of this fact as well, Senator Obama was 8 years old, and this was forty years ago! Do you really want to talk about crimes against Americans of forty years ago? I don't really believe you want to go there, because then we would have to talk about your ancestors, not to mention all the injustice, and crimes committed against African Americans forty years ago. I'll leave you with this thought, the Weather underground group members, who were convicted of those acts, were PARDON BY YOUR WONDERFUL CLINTONS! Now if you want to be real and discuss the issues concerning our country, and more importantly, us as Americans, then let's talk about that! However, if you continue down this decietful, and ridiculous, path. I am more than happy to provide you with more FACTUAL CLINTON HISTORY!
And by the way, you guys are playing right into the repulican hands, with this crap, this is exactly what they want, because as long as we stay divided, they know neither democrat will win in November. The fact is Barack Obama may not be able to win without White Americans, but please remember, it works both ways. Hillary Clinton cannot win without Black Americans as well. And you guys fall for it everytime, even though we all suffer! So when McCain wins, and we don't have lower health care rates, and still have higher tax rates (working middle class Americans that is), When our economy goes from recession, to depression, and even more Americans are losing their homes, Just Remember, You guys put him there!
1) Impeachment: Are you saying Clinton was impeached? He was not 'brought under impeachment' as was Nixon. He was acquitted.
"President of the United States Bill Clinton was impeached by the House of Representatives on December 19, 1998, and acquitted by the Senate on February 12, 1999. "
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
2) Whitewater: How could anyone forget Whitewater. It was history's most expensive exoneration. After 74 million dollars of taxpayer's money and 3 independent counsels (incl. professed Clinton hater Ken Starr) NO evidence was found for any indictment. NO indictments, NO criminal charges relating to Whitewater.
"David Hale, the source of criminal allegations against President Clinton in the Whitewater affair, claimed in November 1993 that Clinton, while governor of Arkansas, pressured him to provide an illegal $300,000 loan to Susan McDougal, the partner of the Clintons in the Whitewater land deal. This allegation by Hale was questionable, as Hale had not mentioned Clinton in reference to this loan during testimony in the original FBI investigation of the failure of Madison Guaranty in 1989. Hale also had a histor..."
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1) Impeachment: Are you saying Clinton was impeached? He was not 'brought under impeachment' as was Nixon. He was acquitted.
"President of the United States Bill Clinton was impeached by the House of Representatives on December 19, 1998, and acquitted by the Senate on February 12, 1999. "
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
2) Whitewater: How could anyone forget Whitewater. It was history's most expensive exoneration. After 74 million dollars of taxpayer's money and 3 independent counsels (incl. professed Clinton hater Ken Starr) NO evidence was found for any indictment. NO indictments, NO criminal charges relating to Whitewater.
"David Hale, the source of criminal allegations against President Clinton in the Whitewater affair, claimed in November 1993 that Clinton, while governor of Arkansas, pressured him to provide an illegal $300,000 loan to Susan McDougal, the partner of the Clintons in the Whitewater land deal. This allegation by Hale was questionable, as Hale had not mentioned Clinton in reference to this loan during testimony in the original FBI investigation of the failure of Madison Guaranty in 1989. Hale also had a history of creating dummy companies, then looting federal funds, such as SBA loans, from them, and allowing them to fail. Only after coming under indictment in 1993 for charges in just such a scheme did Hale make allegations against Clinton."
3) Pardons: Bill Clinton was a rookie with his pardons. He only had a career total of 456, 21st in the list of most pardons; far below FDR with 3687 and even LBJ with 1187. And as for controversial:
"George Washington pardoned leaders of the Whiskey Rebellion; James Madison pardoned Lafitte's pirates after the War of 1812; Andrew Johnson pardoned Confederate soldiers after the Civil War; Harry Truman pardoned those who violated World War II Selective Service laws; and Jimmy Carter pardoned Vietnam War draft dodgers. [...] In modern history, the most controversial pardon is probably the 1974 pardon of former President Richard Nixon, issued by President Gerald Ford." So not really an issue and definitely not an issue for Hillary. Bill's not running.
And you forgot to lie about Travelgate and Filegate: "Starr also chose this occasion [November 1998 testimony before the House Judiciary Committee] to completely exonerate President Clinton of any involvement in the Travelgate and Filegate matters; Democrats on the committee immediately criticized Starr for withholding these findings, as well as the Whitewater one, until after the 1998 Congressional elections."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
As for the Impeachment. He was brought to Impeachment! He, sadly, didn't man up and do the right thing.
Oh. Must I forgot, the continuous lying got him disbarred? She narrowly escaped due to a loophole.
Spin it how you wish. If it walks like a duck, and looks like a duck and quacks like a duck it is a duck!
1) He was NOT pardoned, he was acquitted. (try dictionary.com) The charges against him for which he was *acquitted* did not stem from Whitewater. (try http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
2) The files (not to be confused with File-gate, a separate propaganda issue) were found in the First Lady's White House book room AND the lost files were attributed to "their move from the Arkansas Governor's Mansion and the effects of a White House renovation." Also "After several Independent Counsels investigated, a final report was issued in 2000 which stated that there was insufficient evidence that either Clinton had engaged in criminal wrongdoing." And WHO lost their lives over these lost and found files?
3) Back to impeachment [sigh]... Man up? You [seem to say] that Whitewater, in which he was cleared of any wrongdoing, was the cause of the impeachment and [acquittal], so... man up about what???
4) Disbarred... Surprise! You're partially right; he resigned from the Supreme Court bar before being disbarred though.
Like I said when you Google or however you get your information, you might try some discernment; sort the fact from the propaganda, neg...
1) He was NOT pardoned, he was acquitted. (try dictionary.com) The charges against him for which he was *acquitted* did not stem from Whitewater. (try http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
2) The files (not to be confused with File-gate, a separate propaganda issue) were found in the First Lady's White House book room AND the lost files were attributed to "their move from the Arkansas Governor's Mansion and the effects of a White House renovation." Also "After several Independent Counsels investigated, a final report was issued in 2000 which stated that there was insufficient evidence that either Clinton had engaged in criminal wrongdoing." And WHO lost their lives over these lost and found files?
3) Back to impeachment [sigh]... Man up? You [seem to say] that Whitewater, in which he was cleared of any wrongdoing, was the cause of the impeachment and [acquittal], so... man up about what???
4) Disbarred... Surprise! You're partially right; he resigned from the Supreme Court bar before being disbarred though.
Like I said when you Google or however you get your information, you might try some discernment; sort the fact from the propaganda, negativity and wishful thinking.
5) And Hillary missed being disbarred by a loophole? Do you know what loophole means? The brief, IF it ever existed, was never filed. In other words... she took NO action that would have been grounds for disbarment!!!
remember... google with discernment, dictionary.com is your friend and try looking for facts somewhere besides DailyKos!
Have a nice day! :)
Whether they were found in the book room or not, she withheld the billings which created a no sufficient outcome. They miraculously appeared after the case was closed!
No impeachment proceedings took place over the blatant lying over Monica Lewinsky
Actually you never mentioned McDougal. May be you should calm down and be a little more... clear... on what you are trying to say. I know, when you hate so hard, it must be difficult to separate fact from fiction and to keep it all straight but you could try.
>> she withheld the billings
And you *know* this? Then you are far more omniscient than anyone else in all these years.
>> No impeachment proceedings took place over the blatant lying over Monica Lewinsky
Did I say they did? Or are you just complaining?