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SodaHead Brief: Are Americans Afraid Of Muhammad?

Edward Barrera 2010/05/12 19:49:53
Yes,  everyone is afraid of criticizing Muhammad.
No, people are just more sensitive to the Muslim faith.
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The U.S. is a country that holds free speech as one of its ideals. We are supposed to protect our opponents' right to criticize that which we might spend a lifetime in defending. But that seems to stop when it comes to the Muslim prophet Muhammad.

From the nearly complete media censorship in the U.S. of Muhammad cartoons a few years ago that ignited violence throughout Europe to the latest censorship by Comedy Central of a South Park episode that had Muhammad in a bear suit, we grow faint at disturbing Islamic sensibilities.

Fortunately, others are pushing the boundaries in free speech, though they too are under assault. Lars Vilks, a Swedish artist who angered Muslims by depicting the Prophet Muhammad as a dog, was assaulted while giving a university lecture about the limits of free speech and artistic freedom. In the video below, you can hear people shouting Allahu Akbar as others go after Vilks.

Of course, there is a U.S. connection. Vilks was the target of a murder plot involving Colleen LaRose, an American woman who dubbed herself "Jihad Jane," and who now faces life in prison.

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  • ★Calliope★ ★Calliope★ 2010/05/15 22:00:24
    ★Calliope★
    I love the down rave for speaking the truth.
  • winterhawk56 2010/05/13 01:11:40
    I think...
    winterhawk56
    +10
    F them, I'm tired of the one sided B>S>
  • lalouis... winterh... 2010/05/13 01:14:33
    lalouisiane
    +5
    Me too!!!
  • Amber 2010/05/13 01:07:18
    I think...
    Amber
    +2
    Those examples you shared are sad and awful.
    But tons of people criticize Muhammud and Islam EVERY day. I'm surprised you haven't heard, there are so many on SH! One person even told me that they think all Muslims in the US should be forced to convert, and executed if they don't. :P
  • winterh... Amber 2010/05/13 01:13:54
    winterhawk56
    Show me where and I'll look it up!!!
  • Amber winterh... 2010/05/13 23:52:41
    Amber
    Look up, Muslim, and Islam and you'll find a lot of Muslim-haters. To find that specific person, it's on a question about like "Do you judge by people's political or religious beliefs" or something like that.
  • winterh... Amber 2010/05/14 00:11:36
    winterhawk56
    +1
    I spent 6 years in the middle east and the majority of them put up with us. They do not like our way of life. And they do not like us!!! They only put up with us because of our power. Soon that won't matter.
    I pray to God that we can stem the tide.
    Nov 2010 and Nov 2012 are very important dates in our history.
  • lalouis... winterh... 2010/05/14 06:07:55
    lalouisiane
    +1
    Me too.
  • Amber winterh... 2010/05/16 06:17:47
    Amber
    Are we talking about Muslims or Middle Eastern people or....?
    Whoever we're talking about, that's sad that they only put up with (whoever "us" is, sorry that was a bit vague) because of power...
  • Jack winterh... 2010/05/15 13:36:49
    Jack
    They're not hard to find, scroll around in this question. :D
  • Edward 2010/05/13 01:05:20
  • codyh Edward 2010/05/13 01:44:31
    codyh
    +1
    don't be so mad at the crazy people in this world because they ,have and will, always be around. you should be mad at the people who enable them, like comedy central. the only way to stop the crazy people from taking power is to refuse to give it to them. don't give extremists or crazy people power, and defiantly give extremist crazy people power like Hitler.
  • hardcore conservative 2010/05/13 01:02:25
    I think...
    hardcore conservative
    +6
    we have no reason to be afraid of some dead pedophile....the crazy mislead loons that warship...oops i mean worship him that we need to worry about....... THEY ARE OUT OF THEIR MINDS AND HELLA VIOLENT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  • Tom Dundee 2010/05/13 00:54:47
    I think...
    Tom Dundee
    +6
    we should stand up to them and let them see what pissed off Americans, who are not versed in PC think about them.
  • hardcor... Tom Dundee 2010/05/13 01:03:06
    hardcore conservative
    +3
    :) I AGREE!!!!!!!!!!!!
  • jackolantyrn356 2010/05/13 00:49:40
    No, people are just more sensitive to the Muslim faith.
    jackolantyrn356
    +7
    tHE MUSLIMS SIMPLY WILL NOT BE PEACEFUL. MEANING WE HAVE TO RUN THEM OUT OF THE COUNTRY. A TOUGH IDEA, BUT NECESSSSARY.
  • hardcor... jackola... 2010/05/13 01:03:21
    hardcore conservative
    +4
    I AGREE TO THIS ONE 2!!!!
  • Jack jackola... 2010/05/13 06:08:21 (edited)
    Jack
    CAPS LOOOOCK!

    Edit: I don't think people realized he was joking. Do you really believe he wrote 'necessssary' unintentionally?
  • Angel 2010/05/13 00:41:59
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    Angel
    +7
    If you back down because you are afriad you are as good as dead anyway. Stand firm! This is our country not theirs. If they don't like it they can go back to their homeland! We will stop our comments about their "God" 1.) When they can prove that he supersedes Christ Jesus as the one and true LIVING God. 2.) Tell me why muhhamed took a 9 year old girl as his wifey 3.) Rewrite their version of religious manuscripts to exclude woman beating, 4.) Start talking instead of being cowards by blowing people up! Come on now anyone can make a pipe bomb but, it takes character to vocalize! In short no i'm not afraid of them. Some of my good friends in high school were muslims that came to the U.S fleeing thier country from the war. Not all of them believe the same. However regardless of similarity betweem islamic sects they all have one common denominator...They lack the real key to heaven Jesus Christ. Rather then tear them down let us lift them up to the Father in prayer hoping one day that they may know the Christ of the bible as we the minority have come to know Him.
  • Death Faerie 2010/05/13 00:38:21
  • EagleEye 2010/05/13 00:36:47
    I think...
    EagleEye
    +1
    .......Hell no!
    I'm scared I can't make a P R O F I T!!
  • Theodon 2010/05/13 00:35:36
    Yes, everyone is afraid of criticizing Muhammad.
    Theodon
    +5
    I criticize Islam and the prophet (vbuh)* all the time on sodahead.

    I cannot afford bodyguards and 24 hour protection like some in the public arena who criticize Islam or the prophet (vbuh)*.

    Therefore, I hide behind my avatar because of the hate and violence amongst Muslims and the followers of the prophet (vbuh)*.

    I prefer to keep my identity secret.

    *(violence be upon him)
  • Pablo 2010/05/13 00:30:03
    I think...
    Pablo
    +6
    i know the U.S. media as well as the current administration is pandering to the Muslims. This is not news; we all know that. There was no holds barred when Robert Mapplethorpe had various "art pieces" of Jesus and Mother Mary. With defication on the cross of Jesus and the like, it was considered "art" and the only outcry was from the Catholic Church; nothing from the politicans. That was freedom of speech and expression. Well, where are they today ? Nowhere to be found. The American politicians are afraid of the Muslims, beginning with the white house. And, if it isn't fear, then its cowardice.
    There's more, but if you don't get the idea, then why bother.
    Pablo
  • lalouis... Pablo 2010/05/13 01:18:07
    lalouisiane
    +3
    It's extreme cowardice.
  • lolly Pablo 2010/05/13 06:40:22
    lolly
    Christians did not say much when Mary and Jesus were insulted cause today's Christians are milky toast when it comes to defending Jesus.
  • Jenamarial 2010/05/13 00:26:48
    I think...
    Jenamarial
    +2
    Huh? Why should I fear lunatics?
  • The Berserker 2010/05/13 00:19:36
    I think...
    The Berserker
    +21
    Muslims take any depiction of Muhammed offensive.
    muslims depiction muhammed offensive
  • Riki The Ber... 2010/05/13 11:26:46
    Riki
    +2
    That's as they believe if someone creates a picture of him, he can be idolised and idolatry is against their faith as it is against the Christian faith. However, thankfully for the Western world, Christians aren't so touchy about criticism and handle it far better. In fact, most religions and faiths do.
  • Franklin Riki 2010/05/13 15:50:42
    Franklin
    +2
    ...Tolerance is both our blessing and our curse , we give it for free to the world but suffer because we never demand it in return. It will soon evaporate like rain drops on a hot day as we will fall/fail/die from over using at and those who replace us have no desire to emulate that aspect of our philosophy
  • Riki Franklin 2010/05/13 15:56:35
    Riki
    +1
    The way I view true freedom of speech is that to be "tolerant we must be intolerant of intolerance." Like the video I posted elsewhere on this thread said, the longer they keep pushing their censorship the more awake the sleeping giant of the Western civilisation is awoken.
  • Franklin Riki 2010/05/13 16:58:24
    Franklin
    ...I keep trying to say just that , we simply can not tolerate Intolerance and nothing changes that ...having a different “culture” can not be an excuse for violating the laws and rules of this society / even with out terrorist attacks the rituals and rules of “Muslim culture” violate the rights of woman and children in our society , and we sit here tolerating it because they call us “racist” and we stupidly pull back...
  • Riki Franklin 2010/05/13 17:37:29
    Riki
    +1
    There are basic foundations of civilisation which we, as a people, have come to cherish. These are things no religion or ideology has any right to take away from us and the more they attempt to, the more we will fight back. Some are aware of this going on and some are not, but we all disagree with it and the moment they try to implement something extreme, the world will eventually say enough is enough. We've given them their platform and we can just as easily take it away. The Western civilisation is quite passive, but if need be we are a force to be reckoned with.

    I know you may not agree with atheism, so please ignore the references to it, but if you're interested, you could click here:
    http://www.ex-muslim.org.uk/

    Then click the link named "Manifesto". It makes for a brilliant read. Unlike them, I believe it the job of all people in the West to do this, not just "non-believers, atheists, and ex-Muslims".
  • Franklin Riki 2010/05/13 19:33:20
    Franklin
    You probably get the wrong idea because I often get into fights with atheists here on SH , this stems not from any real animosity for a true idealogical atheist but from the reality that most who claim to be atheists here are actually anti-Christian and use atheism as an excuse to vent their personal hatred of Christians as a group
    I do not shy away from being called a “practicing Christian” because I see it as perfectly good moral guideline for my life and my actions (I find that what I want to be and project is consistent with the actual teachings of Jesus Christ , not so much the dogma of churches that claim to be speaking for Christianity) ...having said that Islam offends me not as a “Christian” but as a human being , it opposes the things I feel are “right” and oppresses people/denigrates women / segregates and promotes hate in a way that I would oppose strongly with out ever mentioning religion of any kind.
    I fight “Islam” not as a Christian but as a human being with concern for the future of all the children of man....
  • Riki Franklin 2010/05/13 21:29:23
    Riki
    "I fight “Islam” not as a Christian but as a human being with concern for the future of all the children of man...."

    Precisely, and I think that is a common link we should be making in this case, unlike those of that particular group that are trying to appeal to exclusively atheists, ex-Muslims and non-believers. We should be working together on this, because there is no real disagreement between us. I'm a humanist, so I'm very glad to hear you say that your concern is simply that of a human.

    Well, I was "bought up as a Christian". I still maintain that my family and many others within the religion are good people and, while they know I'm an atheist, I'm just as welcomed and accepted by them as I was before. I don't think I would classify myself anti-Christian at all, so I think we could get along, Franklin. It's not often that the non-religious and the religious can have a discussion regarding religion here on Sodahead that doesn't end up terribly.
  • Derek The Ber... 2010/05/13 15:47:47
    Derek
    Yay for pointing out hypocrisy! I think everyone should be tolerant of other people's prophets.
  • Franklin Derek 2010/05/13 19:34:46
    Franklin
    That would mean tolerating every one and not tolerating violence against any one for anything they say about any religious icon....
  • Derek Franklin 2010/05/14 03:17:04
    Derek
    Tolerance does not mean "accepting violence". People should tolerate Jesus and Muhammad, but Christians and Muslims don't have the right to hurt people that don't.
  • Franklin The Ber... 2010/05/13 15:48:33
    Franklin
    More accurately Muslims are allowed (by us) to take offense at any depiction of Mohamed ...
  • Walt 2010/05/13 00:12:10 (edited)
    I think...
    Walt
    +4
    I'm afraid if I had been one of those officers on the scene, I would not have been nearly so civilized and it would have wound up recorded on camera. Everyone present would have witnessed some brutal behavior.
  • jumpboots 187th PIR 2010/05/13 00:11:39 (edited)
    I think...
    jumpboots 187th PIR
    +8
    If they the muslim can criticize Christans,then they to will be critize. And if the don't like it
    to bad,get a freaking life and come out off the 9th cantury.....

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