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Fef 2012/07/03 00:28:46
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Occupy Wall Street protester Malcolm Harris claimed that New York prosecutors violated his #CivilRights when they issued a subpoena demanding Twitter provide his tweets and account information. Harris and Twitter tried to quash the subpoena by suggesting the information belongs to Harris -- not Twitter.

Judge Matthew Sciarrino Jr. fashions himself an expert on social media and denied Harris and Twitter. Judge Sciarrino himself tweeted using Twitter's conventional hash tags "#quash" "#denied.”

Judge Sciarrino wrote in his decision: The widely believed (though mistaken) notion that any disclosure of a user’s information would first be requested from the user and require approval by the user is understandable, but wrong. While the Fourth Amendment provides protection for our physical homes, we do not have a physical “home” on the Internet. [..] As a user, we may think that storage space to be like a “virtual home,” and with that strong privacy protection similar to our physical homes. However, that “home” is a block of ones and zeroes stored somewhere on someone’s computer. As a consequence, some of our most private information is sent to third parties and held far away on remote network servers.

The judge said that since Twitter owns the data, prosecutors can subpoena the company for data without violating the account holder's Civil Rights -- particularly the Fourth Amendment.

The Fourth Amendment of the US Constitution declares: The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

The Fourth Amendment protects citizens against unlawful searches by the government. Wikipedia describes it as follows: The Fourth Amendment (Amendment IV) to the United States Constitution is the part of the Bill of Rights which guards against unreasonable searches and seizures, along with requiring any warrant to be judicially sanctioned and supported by probable cause.

GigaOm.com reports:In a closely-watched case tied to last year's Occupy Wall Street protests, a New York judge ruled that tweets are no different from words shouted in the street and ordered Twitter to turn over a user's account to prosecutors.

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Read More: http://gigaom.com/2012/07/02/social-media-judge-sa...

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  • MarinerFH 2012/07/03 01:29:02
    #Agree
    MarinerFH
    +4
    Tweets become part of the Public Domain with no expectancy of privacy.

    I agree with the judge on this one.

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  • Cognito22 2012/07/03 22:12:17 (edited)
    #Agree
    Cognito22
    Don't want to make it public? . . . then don't tweet it on the Internet.

    Stupid is as stupid does.
  • Jackie G - Poker Playing Pa... 2012/07/03 02:27:33 (edited)
    #Agree
    Jackie G - Poker Playing Patriot
    +3
    Not any different from your phone records, computer records, bank records, and papers - they are not off limits at all when one has committed a crime or is suspected of committing a crime. The Judge is just keeping up with technology
  • MarinerFH 2012/07/03 01:29:02
    #Agree
    MarinerFH
    +4
    Tweets become part of the Public Domain with no expectancy of privacy.

    I agree with the judge on this one.
  • safari 2012/07/03 01:24:47
    #Agree
    safari
    Legally - yes - And unfortunately - to worsen the blow the fourth amendment was abolished by the Patriot act and the NDAA
  • Gwen 2012/07/03 01:04:03
    #Agree
    Gwen
    Twitter @ #whatheknewandwhenheknewit #getaclue
  • ray 2012/07/03 00:47:44
    #Agree
    ray
    +4
    A judge issued a subpoena , the police are allowed to subpoena the server and examine the contents.
    Because the police chose not to exhume the full contents and the server itself , and chose only the sections they were interested in it does not lessen the validity of the subpoena.
  • Philo-Publius 2012/07/03 00:47:22
    #Disagree
    Philo-Publius
    +2
    "The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated..."


    If an e-signature is valid as a signed paper, how can 'e-papers' (that which one has stored online that would otherwise ordinarily be stored on paper) not be? Those 1s and 0s are but the 21st Century equivalent of one's 'papers, and effects'.
  • Fef Philo-P... 2012/07/03 01:09:39
    Fef
    +2
    Perhaps, but papers and effects of the owner -- Twitter not the defendant.
  • Jackie ... Philo-P... 2012/07/03 02:29:26
    Jackie G - Poker Playing Patriot
    +2
    Key word is "unreasonable" - court orders based on probable cause are not unreasonable. Judge is keeping up with technology.
  • Philo-P... Jackie ... 2012/07/03 11:12:35
    Philo-Publius
    +1
    If there's probable cause, then a warrant can issue for anything, that's correct.

    The part I didn't like was this idea; this road the judge seemed to be going down, that just because something is stored online, it is somehow public, or can be made to be turned over to law enforcement without that requirement. I follow what you're saying though, and agree.
  • Cognito22 Philo-P... 2012/07/03 14:08:29
    Cognito22
    +2
    It's hard to justify a tweet being broadcast to potentially billions as 'private property' or being confidential. If the words had been spoken publicly instead of typed and sent electronically would it not be considered as admissable evidence?
  • Philo-P... Cognito22 2012/07/03 21:22:43
    Philo-Publius
    I understand the subpoena encompassed much more than just his Tweets. From the article:

    "To build the case, prosecutors asked Twitter to turn over Harris’s account, which contains not just a record of his public messages but could also contain more private information such as the location of his tweets, personal messages and deleted items."
  • Cognito22 Philo-P... 2012/07/03 21:37:06
    Cognito22
    Ewwww . . .
    So that invalidates equating it to talking in public . . . how?
    Actually, tweeting it makes it even more accessible to the public than just talking in public.
    Thanks for bolstering my argument.
  • Philo-P... Cognito22 2012/07/03 22:03:05
    Philo-Publius
    I bolstered your strawman argument.

    The locations of his tweets (indicating his physical comings and goings) and certainly his personal, private messages are not public information, nor are they presumed to be by users when they sign up. Harris had a very solid expectation of privacy.

    If this were only about his public tweets there would be no controversy. The police wouldn't even need a subpoena -- they'd just type in the url of his Twitter page and read it. His public tweets, however, are not what any of this is about.
  • Cognito22 Philo-P... 2012/07/03 22:10:50
    Cognito22
    Judge Sciarrino wrote in his decision:
    The widely believed (though mistaken) notion that any disclosure of a user’s information would first be requested from the user and require approval by the user is understandable, but wrong. While the Fourth Amendment provides protection for our physical homes, we do not have a physical “home” on the Internet."
  • Philo-P... Cognito22 2012/07/03 22:20:57
    Philo-Publius
    Right, and I disagree with the decision -- that was the entire premise of this question: Did the judge overstep constitutional bounds? That is indeed this judge's interpretation of the 4th Amendment, which I do not share.

    It will hopefully be overturned upon appeal, but who can say? Judges make lots of decisions with which people disagree.
  • Cognito22 Philo-P... 2012/07/03 22:36:34

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