So you are against the NDAA, how did you feel about the Patriot Act?

by jacob crim Posted 2012/07/15 02:33:42

Related Topics: John McCain, Obama, RINO, Rush, McCain, Irony, Dad, Bush, Gwb, patriot act, Portion, Liberty, SodaHead

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	I was equally outraged with the Patriot Act	37 votes	80%
	The Patriot Act was needed (please tell me why if you believe this)	3 votes	7%
	Other	6 votes	13%

Ok I know the NDAA is old news by now, but I was talking to my dad today. He is a straight Neo-Con and reminds me of a few Sodahead users. He goes off on this tangent about how Obama is taking away our civil liberties with the NDAA. Maybe he heard Rush say something about it recently I dont know. So I had to ask him "Well dad how did you feel about the Patriot Act when Bush signed that". No answer real answer from him. So to me its almost like RINOs are bashing the NDAA because Obama, the anti christ signed it. They totally ignore that John McCain wrote a large portion of it. But GWB was totally right to sign the Patriot Act. Ohhhhh the irony.

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holly go lightly 2012/07/15 02:55:38

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I am sick of all of it.Who knows what they will try to pull on us next.........they are following a pattern here and it is not the constitutional one .But so what,they are all the same and have the same goals in mind.
The irony of it lost on most people on both sides.
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Wake The Sheeple 2012/07/16 23:30:24

I was equally outraged with the Patriot Act

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Any encroachment upon my liberty and the liberty of my loved ones gets me fired up!

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Little Angel 2012/07/16 22:59:09

I was equally outraged with the Patriot Act

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JimTheGeek 2012/07/16 18:33:38

I was equally outraged with the Patriot Act

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The NDAA is just more of the same...and goes even further to remove/restrict our rights under the Constitution. "Those who give up their Freedoms for Safety are neither Free nor Safe."

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rknothead 2012/07/16 12:11:43

The Patriot Act was needed (please tell me why if you believe this)

The Patriot Act was invoked after we were attacked on Sept 11. It's scary, no doubt about that, but NDAA?? Why, for what reason?

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jacob crim to rknothead 2012/07/16 22:54:32

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I am sure the NDAA is set up under the guise of terrorism as well.

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Daniel S 2012/07/16 02:12:05
DISENFRANCHISED 2012/07/15 23:05:08

I was equally outraged with the Patriot Act

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I always tell the Neo-Cons that if they really liked Bush, then they should really love Obama. More wars, more attacks on the Constitution, Neo-Cons used to love that stuff.
I bet if John "Traitor" McCain was POTUS & carrying out the same, & Faux News Channel was telling them how wonderful & conservative it was, they would be in absolute glee!

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Wake Th... to DISENFR... 2012/07/16 23:31:58

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Obama: Bush's third term.

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vdehl 2012/07/15 21:55:12

Other

I think I live differently.

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WankerBait 2012/07/15 19:50:32

I was equally outraged with the Patriot Act

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The end game is the some for both sides ...

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jubil8 BN-0 PON 2012/07/15 18:53:45

I was equally outraged with the Patriot Act

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Government control is government control. I don't care who does it.

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SoCalEx-Dem 2012/07/15 18:02:24

I was equally outraged with the Patriot Act

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Don't support either one. Real freedom loving Americans don't support the government tampering with our privacy.

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\V/ 2012/07/15 15:58:33

I was equally outraged with the Patriot Act

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Obama signed the Patriot Act. Dummycrats and Republicons are two sides of the same coin.

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Defendn... to \V/ 2012/07/15 16:36:10

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establishment dems and reps are the same indeed.

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\V/ to Defendn... 2012/07/15 16:45:05

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They both work for the Military Prison Insurance industrial Complex.
We in the Green Party support single payer health insurance, not this fascist Obama care. Pricks

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Defendn... to \V/ 2012/07/15 16:54:52

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People should either vote Green or Libertarian. Any other vote is for evil.

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ken 2012/07/15 15:53:51

Other

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You mean the same Patriot Act Obama expanded and extended before he passed NDAA?

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jacob crim to ken 2012/07/15 16:21:28

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Land of the....oh forget it.

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jackolantyrn356 2012/07/15 14:51:17

I was equally outraged with the Patriot Act

Re-written by Marxists I am edgy

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Rob_Hoff 2012/07/15 09:13:12

I was equally outraged with the Patriot Act

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What a misnomer! FISA is another one to be worried about.

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TuringsChild 2012/07/15 06:13:25

I was equally outraged with the Patriot Act

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In truth, the Patriot Act was our declaration of surrender to the terrorists. We HAVE changed who we are in response to their 'terror', and the Terrorist Surrogate Agency is aimed not at Muslim terrorists, but at American Citizens.

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\V/ to Turings... 2012/07/15 15:59:48

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Well said. Bravo!

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Wolfman 2012/07/15 06:06:00

The Patriot Act was needed (please tell me why if you believe this)

I don't have any problem with a standing warrant to monitor phone calls outside the US. AFAIK that's all the PA did. Any fool can monitor a cell phone call; it's very low-tech. What part of the Constitution do you believe is violated?

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Odinsown 2012/07/15 06:04:06

I was equally outraged with the Patriot Act

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I was very very against PATRIOT.

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Ishmael 2012/07/15 05:24:29

I was equally outraged with the Patriot Act

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The Patriot Act was the FIRST of the neoFascist Laws passed as part of the US's version of the German Enabling Acts. One only has to look at the convenient unleashing of the still-unsolved Anthrax letters case to see how important this law's passage was to the Predatory Industrial Ruling Class. What it also illustrates is the BI-PARTISAN nature of Corporate Fascism John Trudell 33,000,000

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\V/ to Ishmael 2012/07/15 16:03:08

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DEATH TO AMERICA

DEATH TO ISRAEL

ALLAH IS GREAT

Note included with the anthrax sent out from a CIA Lab.
Did the Federal Bureau of Idiots do a good job finding out who was using your taxpayer money to send those out?

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Ishmael to \V/ 2012/07/15 20:36:08

What they DID find out was that the weaponized strain of Anthrax USED in the letters was traced DIRECTLY back to the US Bioweapons Lab in Fort Detrick, Md. ANYBODY can write a note saying what was said. HOW many Islamic Jihadists worked at Fort Detrick and had access to Weaponized Anthrax?

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\V/ to Ishmael 2012/07/15 22:38:03

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Curious minds want to know. I dont think it was the guy that killed himself. That is too convenient. We should not accept that BS.

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Ishmael to \V/ 2012/07/15 23:51:10

quite agree. So, if it Wasn't him, WHO was it? And WHY was the Bush White House issuing Cipro anti-virals BEFORE it all went down?

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\V/ to Ishmael 2012/07/16 04:25:52

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Very few people know about that! What is it with this country that Bush can get away anthing he wants, pluss be blatant and stupid and he still gets away with it. OMG!

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DefendnProtect 2012/07/15 04:45:08

I was equally outraged with the Patriot Act

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it's just bizar, out of control, and in control of a very powerful elite.

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darwolf 2012/07/15 04:28:15

I was equally outraged with the Patriot Act

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It seems bush and obama think our constitution is no better than toilet paper. They both wiped their asses with it.

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rightside 2012/07/15 04:25:23

I was equally outraged with the Patriot Act

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The Patriot act was brought about by fear. We stood by and let it happen. That was kind of an excuse. It should never have been allowed.
We have no excuse for letting this happen again.

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Donnie to rightside 2012/07/15 08:40:55

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basicly: fool me once same on you; fool me twice shame on me. more or less.

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rightside to Donnie 2012/07/15 17:20:59

You got it. We were in shock and just nodded in agreement. Got to remember to keep thinking, even in shock.
No, we can't let this happen again. Although, the UN and liberals have been trying to do this for decades.

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jacob crim to rightside 2012/07/15 12:56:16

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And everything that takes away some of our civil liberties will probably use "terrorism" as an excuse for doing so.

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rightside to jacob crim 2012/07/15 17:22:25

Exactly. 9/11 was the first thing that happened since Pearl Harbor. Terrible things were done back then because of fear, such as the Japanese camps.

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rocat 2012/07/15 04:00:37

I was equally outraged with the Patriot Act

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everytime i have bought this up...
to a neoconprog-

they ignore it completely-
never address it-

and usually then...
begin calling me a lib ...
and an obama lover-

they appear unaware...
of how revealing this is-

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☆The Rock☆ * AFCL* The Sher... 2012/07/15 03:40:18

I was equally outraged with the Patriot Act

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I Am irate about both..Both against USA constitution!

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tlee 2012/07/15 03:17:50

I was equally outraged with the Patriot Act

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They both if named correctly should be called the 4th amendment repeal act!.

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