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So, Mr. Obama, just how many inner city Chicago children or other children got to go to summer camp this year? And just how many of them were at the same camp your children were at?

Patriot Unit 2012/08/19 00:14:43
Obama talks about daughters' NH camp experience

ROCHESTER, N.H. (AP) — President Barack Obama is talking about his daughters' experience at summer camp and revealing for the first time where they spent their summer — New Hampshire.

http://news.yahoo.com/obama-talks-daughters-nh-camp-experienc...

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  • Patriot Unit 2012/08/20 23:32:46
    Patriot Unit
    I went to summer camp one time, and I had to go along the roads and highways of California collecting soda bottles that had 3 cent refunds on them. I did this for two years, to spend one week at camp. As my mother had no extra funds to spend on such luxuries. And to tell you the truth the camp experience was not worth the time or money.
  • JanHopkins 2012/08/19 14:09:29
    JanHopkins
    +1
    Summer camp. That's when you pitch a pup tent in the back yard, right?
  • wtw 2012/08/19 02:04:33
    wtw
    +2
    Rich elitist who wants to bring elitist socialistic political elite to america as the only rich in our country beside a few chosen rich by the elitisit!
  • sglmom 2012/08/19 01:44:12
    sglmom
    +2
    Just pointing out ..
    I don't know anyone who can AFFORD to send their child ..
    Much less MULTIPLE Children ..
    for a MONTH of Summer Camps ..
    (Especially a few states away from where their residence is) ..
    Begs the question ..
    how much of this was bill was at Taxpayer Expense too ..
    (and that includes the Federal Employees integrated into the camp as well .. )
  • wtw sglmom 2012/08/19 01:59:32
    wtw
    +2
    Answer it cost us plenty!
  • Command... sglmom 2012/08/19 04:43:25
    Commander Pyle
    +1
    To be fair, I also doubt you know many people in the tax bracket as Obama or even on the same page as Romney. These people went to private schools all their lives. The last thing I give a damn about is if they can afford to vacation on the moon.
  • sglmom Command... 2012/08/19 04:46:53
    sglmom
    +1
    And that is where one would be truly wrong indeed ..
    (for I know folks from all walks of life .. good folks too)

    I have no problem with those who earn their own incomes ..
    pay all their own bills from their own incomes ..
    providing for their children ..

    But in this case ..
    these masses of expenses billed to the Taxpayers ..
    (and being a TAXPAYER .. I'm rightly incensed .. )
    I .. like many others .. are CONCERNED about the amount of WASTE going on ..
    of OUR Taxpayer resources ..
  • Command... sglmom 2012/08/19 04:53:23
    Commander Pyle
    Well, if spending taxpayer money is a concern, I think we left that boat years ago. Money grows on trees in America.

    Besides, I'm assuming we're putting up for SS...which isn't anything surprising. At least it's not a vacation in Juarez.
  • sglmom Command... 2012/08/19 04:57:12
    sglmom
    Ah .. but those kids DID Vacation in Mexico (with friends too at our taxpayer expense) SANS parents .. (who vacationed elsewhere) ..

    By the way ..
    Money does NOT grow 'on trees' ..
    only politicians believe that
    (*or those on the dole forever)

    For the rest of us Citizens ..
    we know that Hard Work earns us our incomes ..
    for which Government STEALS so much from us ..
    then wastes so badly ..
  • Command... sglmom 2012/08/19 09:38:56
    Commander Pyle
    That's what I'm trying to emphasize. The money spent on protecting the first family is inconsequential because it's going to be spent either way, even if it is an unbearable amount. Also, money has no value except for what we put into it. The government prints enough of it as it is. We're exchanging labor for paper that is worthless, irreverently distributed by the government.

    You might understand what hard work is, but do you understand how little government spending impacts the government--whether or not a debt limit is increased or we enact a balanced budget amendment? It's all a gimmick. No one wants to cut spending unless it's to cut spending on avenues used by the public. We'll spend on war, on the military, on foreign and national interests, on national security. But on what is actually needed? No, we need to cut those programs because we're spending too much. Pork, it's what's for dinner.

    It's a clever game. Nothing changes, not even the politicians we keep electing year after year. Government always has money.
  • sglmom Command... 2012/08/19 16:14:38 (edited)
    sglmom
    Inconsequential?
    when the funds for these travels are STOLEN from Military Health Care?
    when servicemembers find themselves having to purchase their own kevlar/weapons for deployment?
    when those injured on Military Duty are told by their Military Docs .. to use their PRIVATE insurance (or pay out of pocket) for the care they need for their Service-Connect Disabilities/Injuries?
    when the Service Connect Veteran purchases all their ancillary needs (for example .. canes, walkers, adaptations to their homes .. etc)?

    This is NOT 'inconsequential' by any means .. and to have these booze it up .. enjoy obscenely expensive meals .. have them use OUR Defense resources as personal taxis for vacations and luxury shopping trips ... then add on the cost of all the personnel/travel expenses for the support services too ..
    add fuel costs .. wear/tear .. the accelerated speed at which our DEFENSE resources are hitting their max service lives ..
    this is HORRIBLE WASTE of our Defense Resources ..
    (then add on the rest of the expenses .. that are shifted/slid to other departments .. which also take away from legitimate needs of these public services too) ..
  • Command... sglmom 2012/08/19 17:16:33
    Commander Pyle
    Who appropriates defense funds? Who is in charge of the budget, the president or congress? You seem to sympathize with those in the military, but how about those that aren't? Does fighting and funding needless wars sound like good policy and fiscal responsibility?

    If we weren't bogged down with Operation Enduring/Iraqi Freedom and even funding terrorists, we might have bought a cane or two for a needy veteran. Then again, we still wouldn't because we have better things to appropriate government funds to, such as subsidizing some industry or another.

    We spend far more on the military than any other country, by a large amount. Why are we hitting a breaking point? The common rhetoric today is that we have to get serious about social security and medicare. Yet those that are self-professed fiscal conservatives haven't been serious about military spending. Somehow I don't think telling the Bozo in the White House to not go on anymore vacations will impact our budget the slightest bit. It's peanuts that will never be seen by military veterans either way.
  • sglmom Command... 2012/08/19 18:17:41
    sglmom
    Oh? And the amounts of funds ..
    flowing outwards to ILLEGALS on Public Dole ..
    to prop up illegal (and Brutal Regimes) ..
    (via the hand-outs to such as the UN and other nations that deliberately have stated the intent to KILL US Citizens .. )

    (where's the concern for the numbers of our Military Servicemembers .. who can't make ends meet and are on Food Aid .. because .. let's face it .. there's no way that our young servicemembers can support their families on what little is paid for their basic pay ... )

    Where's the concern about how those on Public Aid .. Illegals (criminal Invaders .. who should NEVER receive one penny at all) and those who have milked the multi-generational public aid .. and live at a far higher standard of living .. have larger food budgets than those who work hard for their incomes and have taxes taken off the top of their pay?


    The reply shows the same lack of understanding of the oath .. the terms of service and the laws that the Military is constrained by .. as aided/abetted by the media (which is definitely anti-defense) ..
    it is .. silly at best .. to make the spurious claim that our National Defense is the largest int he world (as percent of domestic spending .. it is NOT .. there's multiple nations world-wide that spend far greater portions of thei...



    Oh? And the amounts of funds ..
    flowing outwards to ILLEGALS on Public Dole ..
    to prop up illegal (and Brutal Regimes) ..
    (via the hand-outs to such as the UN and other nations that deliberately have stated the intent to KILL US Citizens .. )

    (where's the concern for the numbers of our Military Servicemembers .. who can't make ends meet and are on Food Aid .. because .. let's face it .. there's no way that our young servicemembers can support their families on what little is paid for their basic pay ... )

    Where's the concern about how those on Public Aid .. Illegals (criminal Invaders .. who should NEVER receive one penny at all) and those who have milked the multi-generational public aid .. and live at a far higher standard of living .. have larger food budgets than those who work hard for their incomes and have taxes taken off the top of their pay?


    The reply shows the same lack of understanding of the oath .. the terms of service and the laws that the Military is constrained by .. as aided/abetted by the media (which is definitely anti-defense) ..
    it is .. silly at best .. to make the spurious claim that our National Defense is the largest int he world (as percent of domestic spending .. it is NOT .. there's multiple nations world-wide that spend far greater portions of their national budgets on Military needs .. and do not have the ethical and/or legal constraints .. limits on the use of Military Power that we in the US have in place .. )

    Do you even understand anything about the Federal Budget cycle .. and the differences in which departments are required to submit (detailed .. vice departments with no oversight at all .. ) .. do you know the difference and the impacts of when authorizations/appropriations do NOT agree line by line? Do you understand the POLITICALIZATION .. the "politics" .. the pay for play that these in "BODY POLITIC" do to TINKER with the National Defense Budget (and how that impacts our ability to defend our nation)? Do you know the budget cycle itself .. or what life cycle costing is (and how service lives .. useful lives of anything is determined?) How about the differences between departments where competitive procurement is required .. vice those departments that are politically directing purchases to bundlers of the sitting /body politic/ (which is sheer corruption/organized criminal activity)?

    There's far more to the Spending patterns .. than the shill at the top .. which is just the public face of the morass of what lies underneath .. and there's far more monstrosities .. far bigger chunks of the federal budget that outflow .. than in the mere portions that are national defense ..
    (more)
  • Command... sglmom 2012/08/20 08:51:15
    Commander Pyle
    That is the problem with the people you elect, not me. You see waste everywhere yet no one in congress tries to tackle it except removing money from people who are already too poor to care for themselves--military included, as you well know. The talking points are there. "What about X when Y is getting $". It is nothing new. It certainly didn't begin with this administration. Neither will they receive the money because after a day or two on the news, a couple of handshakes and talks to amend, it returns back to normal.

    How much are those on the dole receiving in comparison to the members of the military? Why the sudden shift in caring? A hundred thousand military men went to fight in an unnecessary war, all while this nation rooted "Support the troops" and it's only when they return dead or dismembered, that we suddenly worry about their welfare? I'm sorry but it's far too late.

    Supporting tyrants and regime change is much more important than helping our own people. It's in the interest of national security. Who cares if our soldiers can barely afford to eat so long as the bogeyman is kept away? If the Obama's going on vacation prevents veterans from receiving proper medical care, I doubt the problem lies with Obama sending his kids to some expensive camp or his wife to some godforsaken land with her group of hens. Obama is not vacationing on Betelgeuse, and even if he did I'd be tempted to say that would be money well spent.
  • sglmom Command... 2012/08/20 17:37:11 (edited)
    sglmom
    You DO understand ..
    that I ..
    AM the Military Retiree ..
    am the PERSON With the RANK .. (including the ID)
    am the one who is SERVICE-Connect Disabled ..
    I SPEAK on this subject from PERSONAL Insight and experience ..
    I know the reality of what I've seen .. done in my life ..
    I KNOW how well the ones of the DOLE live ..
    (PERSONAL Observation .. I know multi-generational Dole Families from where I grew up .. still they do NOTHING at all and rely on the dole)

    (and I am well-acquainted with the conditions of our Servicemembers .. who are living on FAR less .. and STILL Being Deployed, raising children .. having to deal with their spouses working too .. and what about the children .. I've BEEN THERE -- DONE THAT .. down through the years)
    NOT seeing their families for months (I've done that too) ..

    I'm SICK of the ABUSE .. the FRAUD .. the WASTE ..
    I'm TIRED of those in 'body politic' ..
    who have NEVER SERVED anything except their own bottom lines DICTATING their HATE .. their ABUSE onto those of us who served and believe .. follow .. HONOR our oaths ..

    I'm SICK about the ABUSIVE Way that the msm ..
    so carefully aids/abets .. conditions
    everyone to HATE everything related to the SELFLESS .. SERVICE .. of the Military ..
  • Beccy 2012/08/19 00:20:26
    Beccy
    +2
    isn't that special. Hope we aren't paying for it
  • Patriot... Beccy 2012/08/20 01:24:24
    Patriot Unit
    +1
    Better hope for something else.
  • ☆The Rock☆ * AFCL* The Sheriff!!
    +2
    Many kids can not afford to go to summer camp!
  • Patriot... ☆The Ro... 2012/08/20 01:27:27
    Patriot Unit
    That was my point exactly, and he is telling use just how special the princess's are, but he did not mention how much it cost use the taxpayers, for them to be guarded 24/7 did he.Just like he does not tell us anything that counts to us tax payers.

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