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So are "Death pannels" just the current imaginary fear of republicans?

bob 2012/02/23 15:34:48
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Euthanasia is a personal choice, I do not want the Government or Religion violating my personal freedoms
"Death pannels" is just the current imaginary fear of republicans
"Death pannels" is real and the death panels will decide if you are worth the investment of a surgery or a medication
The Republicans ran out of plans to Govern, so they turn to smoke and mirrors
More Republican Fairy Tales to FUD the public
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  • Arel 2012/03/02 15:42:24
    "Death pannels" is real and the death panels will decide if you are worth the...
    Arel
    and it is in Obamacare if anyone wants to read through the 2000 page + monstrosity.
  • jtjustice 2012/02/26 19:45:21
    "Death pannels" is real and the death panels will decide if you are worth the...
    jtjustice
    READ if you can the obama health bill...there are STOPs factored in for those who reach certain ages - you will NOT receive care if you cannot afford to by-pass the health bill...

    It is just another way of killing off the old and poor...
  • WorkersUnite 2012/02/24 00:15:47
  • Barbara 2012/02/23 23:39:29
    "Death pannels" is real and the death panels will decide if you are worth the...
    Barbara
    +2
    They're not in full swing right now, but the time is coming, and I don't think it's just republicans, but democrats also. Their agenda is more compatible than we are led to believe.
  • Doc 2012/02/23 23:36:12
    None of the above
    Doc
    +2
    Read the healtch care bill.

    The panels that get to decide whether or not you get life-saving care is in it.
  • DuncanONeil 2012/02/23 22:38:33
    None of the above
    DuncanONeil
    +2
    there is nothing imaginary about these!
  • bob DuncanO... 2012/02/23 22:38:55
    bob
    FUD to you too
  • DuncanO... bob 2012/02/24 01:02:23
    DuncanONeil
    Fear, uncertainty, and doubt? Just what are you trying to say?
  • Don 2012/02/23 22:08:38
    "Death pannels" is real and the death panels will decide if you are worth the...
    Don
    +1
    Democraps are way to sharp to actually call them death pannels.
    They call them something else, but the no frills answer is that they are there.
  • bob Don 2012/02/23 22:39:28
    bob
    the sky is falling the sky is falling
  • Doc bob 2012/02/23 23:36:40
    Doc
    Read the health care bill.
  • Don bob 2012/02/24 01:20:58
    Don
    Read it dim bulb...The New York Times reports:

    In a new report, the academy’s Institute of Medicine does not list specific services that should be covered. Rather, it tells the secretary of health and human services how to define the minimum benefits. That is a huge decision that could affect 68 million people, including individuals, families and businesses that obtain coverage through new state-based insurance exchanges.

    Many other insurers will no doubt be guided by the government’s decisions, just as private insurers now often follow Medicare’s coverage decisions.

    “Costs must be taken into account,” the 18-member panel said. “Unless we are able to balance the cost with the breadth of benefits, we may never achieve the health care coverage envisioned in the Affordable Care Act. If the benefits are not affordable, fewer individuals will buy insurance. And if health care spending continues to rise so rapidly, the benefits will begin to erode.”
  • MadAsHEck 2012/02/23 22:04:07 (edited)
    None of the above
    MadAsHEck
    +1
    There are no Death Panels as such.

    However when a group of Bureaucrats decide what care you get based on the Return on Investment, it can lead to Care delayed or delayed. And care Delayed or denied could cause deaths. And ROI pertains more to the elderly than middleaged and the young.

    And already now many Physicians are refusing Medicare and Medicaid. There are signs in both my wifes cardiac Specialist,and my Urologist that they are no longer accepting new Mdeicare/Medicaid patients, but will accept Private insurance patients.

    I had a growth on my back that I became concerned about. We called over 10 Dermatologists before finding one that would accept Medicare. And he is 45 Miles away from home.
  • ~ The Button ~ 2012/02/23 20:33:02
    "Death pannels" is real and the death panels will decide if you are worth the...
    ~ The Button ~
    +2
    death 'panels' do exist, and decisions on life and death for the elderly, terminally ill happen every day...its determined by health insurance companies, doctors and medical agencies. there are stats gathered as to age, health, disease, cost of treatment, expected recovery from disease, if it warrants the treatment etc. these are nothing new its been going on for many years. medicare and medicaid (these government programs govern the entire insurance industy which affects doc payments, whether it is worth the risk and eventually patients) has ramped up their coding for these things so they can track every little detail of every disease and the cost vs results. death panels is just a 'fancy name' for cost reduction in the medical community, its a well known, well used programs that is not discussed openly. i've been in the medical community for over 30 yrs, i'm familiar with medicaid, medicare, tricare and all other insurances and work with doctors and insurance companies daily. Medicaid and medicare are once again changing, upgrading their medical coding to insure they 'don't miss a thing' when it comes to getting what they want and denying claims. also you the insurance industy along with the medical industry is required by law to be totally electronic by 2016 which will mean they can track all you & your families medical treatment at the click of a button. the whole medical coding is very confusing and just wait until obamacare kicks in around 2014...
  • bob ~ The B... 2012/02/23 22:39:49
    bob
    the sky is falling the sky is falling
  • reaper 2012/02/23 19:49:21
    "Death pannels" is real and the death panels will decide if you are worth the...
    reaper
    +1
    and they are called insurance companies. they have always been around.
  • Louisa - Enemy of the State 2012/02/23 19:22:52
    None of the above
    Louisa - Enemy of the State
    +3
    Death panels exist. When the government tells you that you cannot take advantage of a treatment that will probably not work for you, that's a death panel decision. Note the word "probably"..........
  • bob Louisa ... 2012/02/23 22:40:09
    bob
    the sky is falling the sky is falling
  • Cyan9 2012/02/23 18:58:33
    "Death pannels" is just the current imaginary fear of republicans
    Cyan9
    +1
    Umm this claim has repeatedly been proven to be absurd and baseless: http://www.politifact.com/tru...
  • kaZappoo Cyan9 2012/02/23 20:44:12
    kaZappoo
    prove other wise & NOT from politico ..provide other sources ......unbaised !!!
  • Cyan9 kaZappoo 2012/02/23 20:48:10 (edited)
  • D D Cyan9 2012/02/23 21:59:03
    D D
    In the industry they probably have some PC term for it. Insurance companies make these decisions everyday. How can you say that isn't true? People denied some kind of vital treatment is giving them a death sentence. If they don't get it they will die. That decision was not made by them.
  • Cyan9 D D 2012/02/23 22:00:42
    Cyan9
    you clearly didn't read any of the links I provided then.
  • D D Cyan9 2012/02/23 22:04:09 (edited)
    D D
    I did, but I am asking you personally. That is a whole big thing about Obamacare. It upset people.

    You don't think any administrative people makes decisions about who will get life and who will not?
  • Cyan9 D D 2012/02/23 22:15:29
    Cyan9
    Three are no provisions in the law that limit the coverage an Insurer is to provide based on cost efficiency or any other reason. In fact it does the opposite telling insurers they cannot die coverage for a variety of ailments.
  • D D Cyan9 2012/02/23 22:48:57
    D D
    I am not trying to be difficult. If the law doesn't allow you to sue insurers then how can they be held to these "laws" saying they cannot deny coverage?

    I didn't have a life or death case but insurance companies will deny me due to pre-existing condition. They deny me treatment for it. When it comes to big money for expensive treatment they get denied. It happens. I am no love of Michael Moore but I think he covers this in his movie sicko.
  • Cyan9 D D 2012/02/23 22:55:02
    Cyan9
    Actually one of the major pieces of the law is to prevent those with pre-existing conditions from being denied coverage. Look at 2011 and 2014. http://www.cnn.com/2010/POLIT...
  • D D Cyan9 2012/02/23 23:19:24
    D D
    Under Obamacare?
  • Cyan9 D D 2012/02/23 23:39:14
    Cyan9
    Yes. It says so in the article.
  • kaZappoo D D 2012/02/26 02:37:09
    kaZappoo
    +2
    right you are ,,,,the ins. ind . has been doing this for decades under the guise of reasonable treatments necessary with the ins plan the person has ,,,,and or age & prognosis ..

    we are on the same page ....some else isnt nor ever will be......
  • kaZappoo Cyan9 2012/02/26 02:56:43
    kaZappoo
    they cannot "label the reasonable & acceptable prognosis and comfort measures "

    as"""" DEATH PANNELLS """if it walks like a chicken & clucks like one could it possible be passed off as a duck ?

    well with the deniability of the liberals enough koolaid ' they just minght be convinced it's a duck ,,,,

    these sites are a good try at confusing the uneductaed persons that your ideas are believable ....

    I know many in the healthcare industry ,doctors /nurses ,, and other positions ....it's funny the dr.'s I know say the clauses in the LANGUAGE 'THAT THE PEOPLE / NOR HEALTH CARE INDUSTRY WERENT ABLE TO READ INTERPRET OR REVIEW ,,,, AND THE CLAUSES DONT COME RIGHT OUT & SAY DEATH PANNELLS WHAT KIND A FRICKEN IDIOT WOULD DO THAT ...the interpretations have to back door it as resonable & necessary "due to reasonable recovery prognosis ,age and other health factors being reviewd as considered ,,if the patient is not a good candidate "then comfort measures will be proveded ...." again NOT CONSIDERED "DEATH PANNEL !!!!!!!!

    ya see the people I know, nor I are stupid !!

    it as well unconstitutional for the fed govt to mandate requiring citizens to pay for it or be fined or incarserated ,,,then the underhanded clause "just surfacing about birth control " and the catholics ....well some thought they could slip that one through as well ..
  • Doc Cyan9 2012/02/23 23:37:52
    Doc
    Have you read the actual health care bill?
  • Cyan9 Doc 2012/02/23 23:38:31
    Cyan9
    Have you?
  • Doc Cyan9 2012/02/24 20:23:47
    Doc
    Yes, and guess what? There's a panel that determines whether or not you get life-saving treatment. Now what would you call that panel?
  • kaZappoo Doc 2012/02/26 03:05:54
    kaZappoo
    +1
    thank you DOC ........I know many that have ,,,and a few doctors who read it after it was passed ,,,they came to the same conclusion ...!!

    this individual just thinks they know what there talking about .......

    as was said in my remark before ,,,the public //helathcare industry /ins companies werent able to read it review or have any legal group review or interpret it ........

    so much for the transparency promise ,,,,,THEN AGAIN AS WITH ANY POLITICIAN "THEY PROMISE WHAT EVER IS NECESSARY FOR THE VOTE !! "
  • Cyan9 Doc 2012/02/26 03:46:09
    Cyan9
    Section and page number then.
  • Doc Cyan9 2012/02/26 19:30:04
    Doc
    read sections 240 and 1233 of HR 3962.
    And use your legal dictionary.

    but here's the real kicker
    http://dailycaller.com/2011/1...
  • Ira 2012/02/23 18:19:37
    The Republicans ran out of plans to Govern, so they turn to smoke and mirrors
    Ira
    +1
    Current or ongoing and repetitious BS? Remember Palin's DP hooey?
  • findthelight2000 2012/02/23 18:05:51 (edited)
    The Republicans ran out of plans to Govern, so they turn to smoke and mirrors
    findthelight2000
    +1
    The Republican party these days runs on nothing but conspiracy theories and Christian fundamentalism. Why? Because they know that that is how their voting base thinks due to right wing media propaganda and Christian Fundamentalist political endorsements.
  • D D findthe... 2012/02/23 18:33:38
    D D
    This is about what is going on in Holland. American Reps have nothing to do with it.

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