Sixty-One Percent of the Koran Talk Ill Of Unbelievers. Calls For Violent Conquest.

Posted July 27, 2010 21:30:39
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July 26, 2010

AN INVENTED TALE [Excerpts]

Every now and then you hear calls from critics of Islam for Islam to reform itself--for mosques and madrassas to teach against the Islamic doctrines that inspire terrorists. A dramatic example of this demand occurs in the film Fitna when Geert Wilders invites Muslims to tear the offending pages out of the Koran. In one scene you can hear the sound of tearing pages in the background.

If thy page offend thee, pluck it out? The only trouble with this sort of recommendation is that it assumes that there is enough positive material in the Koran and other foundational documents to form the basics for a reformation. But is there?

According to Moorthy Muthuswamy, an expert on political Islam, "61 percent of the Koran talks ill of unbelievers or calls for their violent conquest and subjugation, but only 2.6 percent talks about the overall good of humanity." Hmmm. Seems as though that would amount to an awful lot of offending pages.

It's a similar story when you turn to the sira, the biographies of Muhammad. Take the earliest of these, the one written by Ibn Ishaq. Of the 130 short chapters which detail the life of Muhammad after his arrival in Medina, over 70 are about raids, battles, and assassinations or else they are about preparations for raids and battles, division of spoils, odes upon battles, names of those who fought, etc. According to a content analysis done by Bill Warner of the Center for the Study of Political Islam, at least 75% of the sira is about jihad. These are inconvenient facts for those who hope Islam can be reformed. No matter how reform-minded you may be, it is difficult to come up with a symbolic interpretation of the Koran's numerous calls to make war on unbelievers, since that was literally what Muhammad did.

So, rather than encourage Muslims to remove the violent and hateful parts of the Koran, it might make more sense to encourage them to renounce it in toto. The "good" parts of the Koran are so bound up with the "bad" parts that trying to separate them is an impossible task. Besides, there is no warrant in Islamic tradition for picking and choosing. Islamic authorities say that the Koran given to Muhammad is a replica of the original which is inscribed on "imperishable" tablets in heaven. And, just for the record, "imperishable" beats "set in stone" by a wide margin. Talking of reforming Islam by re-interpreting the Koran is like talking about reforming a marble statue. Some things don't lend themselves to reformation.

Civilus Defendus August 05, 2010 02:32:30

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The theo-political doctrine of Islam:

1. Commands the attainment of political goals as religious duty.

2. Is codified in sharia law - which demands the replacement of all man-made law (including our Constitution) with "divine" sharia.

3. Invites conversion, enforces subjugation or engages in war to achieve its objectives.

4. Allows for all manner of deception to advance its objectives.

So, Islam is not solely a religion (1); its tenets invariably lead to sedition and insurrection (2); it violates nearly every aspect of our Constitution, culture and traditions (3); and makes it nearly impossible to distinguish good (= orthodox and jihad-minded) and bad (muslim in name only) practitioners (4).

Therefore, the theo-political doctrine of Islam must be expunged from every Western nation and held at bay with hot and cold war until it ceases to be a threat to our forms of governance, our cultures, our institutions and futures. It really is as simple as an analysis of the Islamic Trilogy: Quran, Sira & Hadith.
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Civilus Defendus August 05, 2010 02:32:30

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The theo-political doctrine of Islam:

1. Commands the attainment of political goals as religious duty.

2. Is codified in sharia law - which demands the replacement of all man-made law (including our Constitution) with "divine" sharia.

3. Invites conversion, enforces subjugation or engages in war to achieve its objectives.

4. Allows for all manner of deception to advance its objectives.

So, Islam is not solely a religion (1); its tenets invariably lead to sedition and insurrection (2); it violates nearly every aspect of our Constitution, culture and traditions (3); and makes it nearly impossible to distinguish good (= orthodox and jihad-minded) and bad (muslim in name only) practitioners (4).

Therefore, the theo-political doctrine of Islam must be expunged from every Western nation and held at bay with hot and cold war until it ceases to be a threat to our forms of governance, our cultures, our institutions and futures. It really is as simple as an analysis of the Islamic Trilogy: Quran, Sira & Hadith.

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TinCanS... to Civilus... August 05, 2010 02:44:53

Everything points to the fact that Islam is now compatible with a Democracy. That is why the military action in Iraq was successful. If insurgents, Osama Bin Laden, Al Queda, Hamas, Taliban, Hezbollah and Iran would have kept their nose out of Iraq, it would be a thriving Democracy today.

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gibyob July 29, 2010 14:36:23

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There are so many different sects of Islam, In Turkey they believe that drinking is ok as long as you don't get drunk, Saudi Arabia is much less tolerant and there are many that are worse and some that are less radical but the radicals are invading all sects and they are growing. The Great Satan??? They are not us!!

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TinCanS... to gibyob July 29, 2010 17:51:30

They have the Christians backed into a corner where anything they do or say is considered a crusade.

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gibyob to TinCanS... July 29, 2010 18:28:17

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Yeah Thats what they say, but the truth is so much simpler.

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Change Happens July 27, 2010 22:32:34

BE AFRAID!! BE VERY VERY AFRAID!!! Vote out of fear and ignorance!

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TinCanS... to Change ... July 27, 2010 23:28:08

I hope you never have to experience the amount of disrespect you show to those poor people that lost loved ones on 9/11.

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Calliope~POTL-PWCM~JLA July 27, 2010 21:39:55

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TinCanSailor July 27, 2010 21:33:15

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It is unbelievable to me that anyone could allow the building of a Mosque within blocks of Ground Zero, the former World Trade Center.

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Calliop... to TinCanS... July 27, 2010 21:38:05

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It is horrid.

Muslims are KNOWN for putting Mosques upon the ashes of their conquered. Everyone in Islam knows the significance - why is it only the left that can't see it?

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TinCanS... to Calliop... July 27, 2010 23:26:49

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There is total disrespect for the lives of people both living and dead that were lost on 9/11/01. The disrespect comes from both Muslims and those that support the building of the Mosque. I hope they never have to experience the loss of loved ones in their family from an act of terrorism. That is the only way they can feel the pain they are inflicting on those poor people.

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Calliop... to TinCanS... July 27, 2010 23:37:13

I think these type of people would sacrifice their own.

Honor killings? My God how barbaric. As for the lefty loons that support this? It's a mental disease.

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TinCanS... to Calliop... July 27, 2010 23:57:04

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Just think how loud they would scream if a church was built next the the grave of Major Nidal Malik Hasan.

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Calliop... to TinCanS... July 28, 2010 00:08:57

no doubt.

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