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Sikh temple gunman was ex-soldier linked to racist group

☥☽✪☾DAW ☽✪☾ 2012/08/07 00:34:33


The gunman who killed six worshipers at a Sikh temple in Wisconsin was identified as a 40-year-old U.S. Army veteran and authorities said they were investigating possible links to white supremacist groups and his membership in skinhead rock bands.
The assailant, shot dead by police at the scene on Sunday, was identified as Wade Michael Page. He served as a soldier in the Army from 1992 to 1998, said police chief John Edwards in the Milwaukee suburb of Oak Creek where the 400-member temple is located.
Survivors described women and children hiding in the pantry of the temple's community kitchen as the gunman stormed through the building. "Everyone was falling on top of one another," said Parminder Toor, 54, speaking in Punjabi as her daughter-in-law, Jaskiran Kaur, translated.
"It was dark and we were all crammed in." One of the women who made it into the pantry had been shot in the hand, and there was "blood everywhere," said Toor.
Federal authorities said they were treating the attack as a possible act of domestic terrorism.
Sikh temple gunman was ex soldier linked to racist group
According to the Southern Poverty Law Center, which tracks hate groups, Page was a member of two racist bands named End Apathy and Definite Hate, "a band whose album 'Violent Victory' featured a gruesome drawing of a disembodied white arm punching a black man in the face."
A MySpace page for a band that appears to be one of those identified by the SPLC, End Apathy, includes songs with titles such as "Self Destruct," "Submission" and "Insignificant," as well as pictures of three heavily tattooed band members.
"The music is a sad commentary on our sick society and the problems that prevent true progress," the band's profile says.
Sikh temple gunman was ex soldier linked to racist group
Band T-shirts advertized on the page include one with the Roman numeral 14 -- a number the SPLC said was a reference to the 14-word white supremacist slogan "We must secure the existence of our people and a future for white children."
A YouTube video posted in 2009 of a song by Definite Hate, which appears to have been another Page band, shows a scroll of the lyrics that includes: "Wake Up, White man, For Your Race, And your land," and "Wake Up People Or Your Gonna Die!"
The SPLC pointed to a 2010 interview with white supremacist website Label 56 in which Page said he had played in various bands since 2000, when he left his native Colorado on a motorcycle.
Two years earlier, in 1998, Page had been discharged from the Army for "patterns of misconduct," according to military sources.
Page had served in the military for six years but was never posted overseas. He was a psychological operations specialist and missile repairman who was last stationed at Fort Bragg, North Carolina, the sources said.
In June 1998 he was disciplined for being drunk on duty and had his rank reduced to specialist from sergeant. He was not eligible to re-enlist.
In recent months, Page moved to a suburb of Milwaukee called Cudahy. Peter Hoyt, who lives nearby, said he would often see Page sitting on his porch or walking the neighborhood.
Page talked about an ex-girlfriend who had broken up with him or, sometimes, the Green Bay Packers. "He was friendly with me," Hoyt said. "When I found out it was him, I was astounded."
David Brown, a 62-year-old veteran who wears a Navy hat, recalled only perfunctory greetings with Page, who lived in an apartment below him in South Milwaukee with a woman and her five-year-old son before he moved to Cudahy.
He said Page was a delivery driver and drove a plain white van. He also saw him on several occasions with a guitar case.
"He was very inside himself. He didn't talk much," said Brown. "I would say 'Hi' to him and all I would get would be a 'Hi' back. I tolerated him and he tolerated me."

FBI special agent Teresa Carlson said authorities were interviewing Page's family and associates searching for a motive behind the shooting that killed six people and seriously wounded three, including a police officer, at the Sikh Temple of Wisconsin.
A fourth person was wounded less seriously.
The dead were five men and one woman, aged between 39 and 84. Members of the Sikh community said the president of the congregation and a priest were among the victims.
American Sikhs around the country added security to temples, with some saying they have been singled out for harassment since the September 11, 2001, attacks because they are mistaken as Muslims due to their colorful turbans and beards.
Describing how the events unfolded, Chief Edwards told reporters the first officer on the scene found a victim in the temple parking lot and went to render assistance. The officer was then shot eight or nine times at very close range with a handgun, Edwards said.
The gunman then fired on a police car, ignoring officers' commands to drop his weapon, and was shot and killed by police.
The wounded officer was identified as Brian Murphy, 51, a 21-year veteran of the force. Even though he had been hit, Murphy had waved away other officers coming to his aid, urging them to go into the temple to help others, Edwards said.
Edwards said they were confident Page was a "lone gunman. The FBI had said it was searching for a person of interest in the case, but a law enforcement official said the person had been located and cleared.


Wade Michael Page reportedly had ties to white supremacist groups and was alleged to be a member of a heavy metal band that promoted an ultra-right-wing 'white power' agenda.

The picture below, supplied by the Anti-Defamation League, shows Page in front of a Nazi symbol.

ultra-right-wing white power agenda picture supplied anti-defamation league nazi symbol
The Southern Poverty Law Center says that Wade Michael Page, the suspected shooter at a Sikh temple in Wisconsin, was a singer in a "skinhead" band called End Apathy


GUN BOUGHT LEGALLY


Officials said the weapon Page used was a 9mm handgun that had been legally purchased. Page emptied several magazines and several more unused magazines were found on the scene.
Wisconsin has some of the most permissive gun laws in the country. It passed a law in 2011 allowing citizens to carry a concealed weapon.
President Barack Obama said Americans need to do more "soul searching" to find ways to reduce violence.
"All of us recognize that these kinds of terrible, tragic events are happening with too much regularity," Obama said at a White House bill-signing ceremony when asked whether further gun control measures were needed.
The shooting came just over two weeks after a gunman killed 12 people at a theater in Aurora, Colorado, where they were watching a screening of the new Batman movie.
There are 500,000 or more Sikhs in the United States. The Sikh faith is the fifth-largest in the world, with more than 30 million followers. It includes belief in one God and that life's goal is to lead an exemplary existence.
Sikh leaders say the number of incidents of violence against their community in the United States is growing.
At a news conference on Monday, Amardeep Kaleka said his father, Satwant Singh Kaleka, the temple president who was killed, represented the American Dream.
"He came over with $100 in his pocket," the son said. "He worked his behind off, 18 hours a day in some of the worst neighborhoods ... He became a very successful businessman."
Amardeep Singh, program director of the Sikh Coalition, said Sikhs had become "collateral damage" in a 24-hour news machine that uses dark-skinned, bearded, turbaned men as visual shorthand for terrorists.

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  • Keeping It Real 2012/08/07 03:51:38 (edited)
    Keeping It Real
    +23
    I wouldn't be surprised if the Republiconteabaggers and Faux No News are celebrating privately, because they've been stoking hate against Muslims ( although the victims where not) hispanics, the first African American President, poor people, etc. since the election of Obama .

    I believe the hate mongering racists, bigoted rhetoric coming from many on the right, including members of the House and Senate has helped to give the green light to the crazies in this country.

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  • Chris- ... foy49 2012/08/07 11:46:47
    Chris- Demon of the PHAET
    +1
    Exactly right. :-)
  • All Ame... foy49 2012/08/07 12:57:30
    All American
    At what?
  • foy49 All Ame... 2012/08/07 16:06:11 (edited)
    foy49
    +1
    Do you really not understand how your statement "the libbies are insensitive; they're the ones who will politicize" etc. is it self a politicization of the conversation ?
  • Chris- ... foy49 2012/08/07 16:14:52
    Chris- Demon of the PHAET
    +1
    Apparently not.
  • All Ame... foy49 2012/08/07 16:17:39
    All American
    They already started, before I posted.
  • foy49 All Ame... 2012/08/07 16:23:19 (edited)
    foy49
    What, when ? I'd like to see it. Your reply was in the future tense, implying it hadn't started yet.
    Thanks.
  • All Ame... foy49 2012/08/07 16:44:20
    All American
    Here ya go:

    http://www.conservativehq.com...

    I'll find more.
  • foy49 All Ame... 2012/08/07 17:13:53 (edited)
    foy49
    Thanks !

    This is from the LA Times -

    "WASHINGTON -- Federal investigators had “looked at” Sikh temple gunman Wade Michael Page more than once because of his associations with (right-wing extremists) and the possibility that he was providing funding to a domestic terrorist group, but law enforcement officials at the time determined there was not enough evidence of a crime to open an investigation, a senior U.S. law enforcement official said."


    "The official, who spoke on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to speak to the media, would not say Monday which law enforcement agency had considered investigating Page, or when."

    I wonder if this is the "politicization" the article on the Conservative HQ page is referring to, no link was provided and this is all I found on the LA Times site.

    In this instance the mention of the "right-wing" affiliation was made to explain the federal investigators prior interest in Mr Page, not to make a political statement.
  • All Ame... foy49 2012/08/07 20:06:15
    All American
    "There they go again. It took no time at all for the establishment media, such as CNN and The Los Angles Times, to describe the alleged perpetrator of the Wisconsin Sikh Temple murders as a conservative and “soldier.”

    He has no affiliation with mainstream conservatism like CNN and the LA Times are trying to imply.
  • foy49 All Ame... 2012/08/07 20:28:12
    foy49
    I don't know about you but I don't necessarily make a connection from "right wing affiliation" to Mainstream conservatism, any more than I consider the American Communist Party linked to the Liberals ?
  • ☥☽✪☾DAW... All Ame... 2012/08/07 20:30:23
    ☥☽✪☾DAW ☽✪☾
    i didnt blame Right wings or left wings i blame the person responsible which is a Racist hate group of neo nazis
  • Chris- ... All Ame... 2012/08/07 11:46:10
    Chris- Demon of the PHAET
    +1
    Do you even bother to think before you type a reply? Do you just spew a lot of right wing buzz words in every reply you write? Libblies. Liberal media. blah blah blah. This is just meaningless ideology, the kind of nonsense that one finds on a bumper sticker. You barely have an opinion and even what little you do have has nothing to do with this post.
    You should really think about who is politicizing this issue. You are the one who mentioned Republicans, the Tea Party , Palin, and the right.
  • All Ame... Chris- ... 2012/08/07 13:00:27 (edited)
    All American
    The left jumps on stuff like this all the time, remember Gaby Giffords? MSNBC pinned in on conservatives, the right, Republicans, the Tea Party and especially Palin. They even went so far as to ask Palin to apologize. Utterly ridiculous. Brian Ross of ABC tried to tie in the Tea Party to the Colorado shootings. They will jump on every opportunity to pin this on the right.
  • Keeping... All Ame... 2012/08/07 04:33:35 (edited)
    Keeping It Real
    +3
    All media should point out the racist, bigoted, hatred, dog whistling that members of the House and Senate have been participating in since the election of the president. Do Michele Bachmann ring a bell, now go ahead and try that lie and deny game that you trout out everytime you're afraid the people will start to catch on!

    Oh I didn't forget the head of the hateful Republiconteabaggers party, Faux No News, a place where racist, bigots, and liars feel right at home.
    FAUX NO NEWS FAUX NO NEWS FAUX NO NEWS FAUX NO NEWS
  • All Ame... Keeping... 2012/08/07 13:02:48
    All American
    Who gave you your talking points? Racism is all on your side, you all embrace it: Al Sharpton, Jessie Jackson, NAACP, Black Caucus, Black Panthers et. al. And I don't know why you hate successful people. They are worthy of emulation, not condemnation.
  • Keeping... All Ame... 2012/08/07 13:05:08
    Keeping It Real
    Come up with a new line because that's quite old you Faux No News Racist, Bigoted, Hate mongering network admirer!
    dog fetching a ball
  • All Ame... Keeping... 2012/08/07 13:15:32
    All American
    Bottom line is, you can't refute the facts I stated. Truth hurts, doesn't it. Now, go play fetch.
  • Keeping... All Ame... 2012/08/07 13:47:36
    Keeping It Real
    When you come up with a fact or the truth then get back at me, in the mean while PULL YOUR HEAD OUT OF the sand
    dog fetching a ball
  • All Ame... Keeping... 2012/08/07 14:16:48
    All American
    Facts are like daggers to your eyes and ears. No wonder you're running away with a ball in your mouth.

    Here Boy, fetch:

    stick
  • Keeping... All Ame... 2012/08/07 14:34:10
    Keeping It Real
    Thanks for fetching now do it AGAIN!
    dog fetching a ball
  • All Ame... Keeping... 2012/08/07 15:01:06
    All American
    Go get it, Boy!
  • Keeping... All Ame... 2012/08/07 19:31:38
    Keeping It Real
    Go get it girl! dog fetching a ball
  • bags the Indigenous Guru 2012/08/07 00:39:43
    bags the Indigenous Guru
    +8
    Keep spilling your hate out folks. Thoughts become words....words become deeds. Hate blinds you to innocence.
  • Chris- ... bags th... 2012/08/07 00:42:40
    Chris- Demon of the PHAET
    +2
    Nicely said.

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