Showdown in Florida: Lawsuits fly as Florida continues to purge its voting roles. Whose Side Are you on?
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2012/06/12 12:08:08
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The Battle Royal begins in Florida. In this corner we have Governor Rick Scott, who wants to purge the Florida Voting Roles of 182,000 SUSPECTED illegal voters.
In this corner we have the United States Federal Government, who says that this is an attempt at voter suppression. The Department of Justice has ORDERED, the state of Florida to stop purging its voter roles in this fashion.
The Justice Department said it will sue Florida in federal court for
violating two federal laws that prevent states from suppressing voters.
The state will be subject to "enforcement action," the agency said in a
curtly worded letter.
Hours earlier, Florida filed a lawsuit of its own against the federal
government. Secretary of State Ken Detzner, who oversees elections, sued
the U.S. Department of Homeland Security, accusing the agency of
denying access to a federal database with information about immigrants.
The lawsuit claims the federal agency forced the state to run afoul of
at least one of the two federal voting laws the Justice Department
accuses it of flouting.
So Whose side are you on: The State of Florida and Rick Scott or the Federal government Department of Justice?
In this corner we have the United States Federal Government, who says that this is an attempt at voter suppression. The Department of Justice has ORDERED, the state of Florida to stop purging its voter roles in this fashion.
The Justice Department said it will sue Florida in federal court for
violating two federal laws that prevent states from suppressing voters.
The state will be subject to "enforcement action," the agency said in a
curtly worded letter.
Hours earlier, Florida filed a lawsuit of its own against the federal
government. Secretary of State Ken Detzner, who oversees elections, sued
the U.S. Department of Homeland Security, accusing the agency of
denying access to a federal database with information about immigrants.
The lawsuit claims the federal agency forced the state to run afoul of
at least one of the two federal voting laws the Justice Department
accuses it of flouting.
So Whose side are you on: The State of Florida and Rick Scott or the Federal government Department of Justice?
Read More: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/06/11/rick-scot...
Top Opinion
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JP 2012/06/12 13:15:15I support Rick Scott in the voter Purge
Already American citizens have received letters because their last names sound Latino. Have we forgotten that elderly black voters have been denied their right to vote because mid-wives delivered them & their births were never recorded in the states where they were born?
I agree, only breathing, qualified American citizens should be voting. The way Florida (and other Republican states) are going about enforcing the voter laws is voter suppression & must be stopped by any means necessary.
That's like saying that the Civil Right's Act of 1964 makes it ILLEGAL to arrest ANY Minority for ANY crime that they may have committed..
You obviously haven't read the 1964 Civil Rights Act, which says nothing of the kind. I thought we were having a serious discussion, but now you want to be silly.
It's not aimed at Hispanics.. It's aimed a LAW breakers.. If they happen to BE Hispanic,, So BE it.. If NOT and they're still illegal,, they get treated just like any other Illegal Voter..
An ILLEGAL Voter is NEVER disinfranchized by Voter ID verification laws.. They have ZERO Legal Standing to be disinfranchize from..
Scott is disenfranchising entire groups of eligible voters, including people with names that are similar to those of convicted felons.
The REASON why there are so many hispanics on the list is because there are that many Hispanics voting ILLEGALLY.. Florida is right up there near the top when it comes to the presence of Illegals within it's borders..
YOU have NO evidence that Scott is disinfranchizing ANYBODY let alone entire groups.... NONE..
You just run your mouth like the TYPICAL Left WInger fully confident that no matter HOW outrageously you LIE and no matter the FACT that you have ZERO evidence to back up those lies,, there will be SOME who believe you..
What a PATHETIC little human being you must be.. What a SAD case of LOW Self Esteem you must suffer from that you need to LIE about things like this to make yourself feel useful.. To make yourself appear to be a decent human being..
I'd be angry at the lies if I weren't already filled with PITY for you..
The evidence is in the number of Scott's purges that have turned out to be eligible voters––95%. He and the Koch brothers and Karl Rove are hoping they won't have time to prove themselves eligible in court, which is why they are doing it so close to the November election. Rick and Karl and the Kochs don't like a level playing field.
So now you resort to personal attacks? I guess that means you have run out of cogent arguments. I accept your surrender.
Go on hotshot.. SHOW me.. And I mean REAL evidence..
Typical Left Winger..
"All that I have to do is toss any ole lie OUT there and it's up to everybody else to prove that I'm LYING "..
Doesn't WORK that way,, Hotshot..
Where is your evidence?
YOU made UP the accusation.. It's up to YOU to prove them.. it's NOT up to me to disprove them..
And I'll tell you something else.. That you're trying to turn this around demonstrates to everyone here that you don't know what the hell you're talking about..
Does THAT clear it up for you???
HOTSHOT..
Are you aware that most of the people who have been tasked with purging voters for Scott say they refuse to purge another name regardless of the outcome of the lawsuits? Even they know what is going on in that state is wrong.
Here's another item:
Florida Governor Rick Scott recently passed a law requiring all new voters in the state to submit their completed voter registration forms within 48 hours of filling them out. If they wait even a minute longer than that allotted time, the forms become void. While the law may not sound absurd at first blush, things get more complicated when you consider how many people register through third parties -- like volunteers from the League of Women Voters. And how many newly-registered voters are Democrats and Independents.
"The debate's over," Scott told CNN. "We know we have almost 100 individuals that have registered to vote that are non-U.S. citizens. Over 50 of them have voted in our elections."
Earlier counts by Florida officials suggested that they'd found 87 non-citizens on the voter rolls, 47 of whom had voted. That was out of a list of 2,700 potent...
Are you aware that most of the people who have been tasked with purging voters for Scott say they refuse to purge another name regardless of the outcome of the lawsuits? Even they know what is going on in that state is wrong.
Here's another item:
Florida Governor Rick Scott recently passed a law requiring all new voters in the state to submit their completed voter registration forms within 48 hours of filling them out. If they wait even a minute longer than that allotted time, the forms become void. While the law may not sound absurd at first blush, things get more complicated when you consider how many people register through third parties -- like volunteers from the League of Women Voters. And how many newly-registered voters are Democrats and Independents.
"The debate's over," Scott told CNN. "We know we have almost 100 individuals that have registered to vote that are non-U.S. citizens. Over 50 of them have voted in our elections."
Earlier counts by Florida officials suggested that they'd found 87 non-citizens on the voter rolls, 47 of whom had voted. That was out of a list of 2,700 potential names pared down from an original catalogue of around 182,000. The final list was also judged to have contained 500 names of voters who were legitimate U.S. citizens.
According to a Miami-Herald analysis, more than 60 percent of the voters on the list are black or Latino. –– Miami Herald
Now let's see your evidence, Big Stuff.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
The results of the study showed that had the limited county by county recounts requested by the Gore team been completed, Bush would still have been the winner of the election. However, the study also showed that the result of a statewide recount of all disputed ballots could have been different. The study was unable to review the ballots in Broward and Volusia that were counted as legal votes during the manual recounts thus analysis included those figures that were obtained using very loose standards in its calculations. Since these recounts resulted in a sizable net gain for Gore (665 net Gore votes) they have no bearing on the assessment that Bush would likely have won the recounts requested by Gore and ordered by the Florida Supreme Court. They do however play a major role in the assessment that Gore could have won a recount of the entire state if overvotes were taken into account. Without these votes Gore would have lost a recount of the entire state even with all ove...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
The results of the study showed that had the limited county by county recounts requested by the Gore team been completed, Bush would still have been the winner of the election. However, the study also showed that the result of a statewide recount of all disputed ballots could have been different. The study was unable to review the ballots in Broward and Volusia that were counted as legal votes during the manual recounts thus analysis included those figures that were obtained using very loose standards in its calculations. Since these recounts resulted in a sizable net gain for Gore (665 net Gore votes) they have no bearing on the assessment that Bush would likely have won the recounts requested by Gore and ordered by the Florida Supreme Court. They do however play a major role in the assessment that Gore could have won a recount of the entire state if overvotes were taken into account. Without these votes Gore would have lost a recount of the entire state even with all overvotes added in. Unless 495 or more of those votes were actual votes then Gore still would lose. Note these figures also do not take into account a dispute over 500 asbentee ballots that Bush requested to be added to the certified totals. If found to be legal votes that would put Gore totally out of reach regardless of any manual recount standard.
Those that have passed on should not be sent voter registration cards.
Those that are incarcerated for felonies should not be sent voter registration cards.
Those who are registered in more than one precinct should not be sent additional voter registration cards.
Students who are registered "at home" should not be sent voter registration cards.
People living here under false identities for the purpose of not going through legal procedures to become citizens should not be sent voter registration cards.
What's the problem?
Boo! -----> There goes an illegal..
Boo! -----> There goes a dead voter now.
The sky if falling... democracy and the Republic are doomed...
Let's control who votes, even if they are Americans.