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Should Wolves Keep Protected Status in Idaho or Should They Be Hunted?

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According to some, Idaho is a facing a “wolf-pocalypse.” After landing on the endangered species list, wolves have rebounded in Idaho, Montana and Wyoming since being reintroduced in the northern Rocky Mountains in 1995. Now, though, Idaho is facing what’s being called a “wolf disaster” because of the rising population of the lupine species.

According to ABC News, the Idaho legislature approved a bill last week that would give Governor C.L. “Butch” Otter the power to declare a state of emergency that would allow local law enforcement to cull the state’s wolf packs.

Like its neighbors, Idaho has been fighting the government and environmental groups since 1995 over claims that wolves are attacking livestock and also thinning the populations of elk and other wildlife. The bill awaiting Otter’s signature refers to the problem as a “clear and present danger to humans" that is a result of the "imported wolves."

One Idaho resident who spoke in support of the bill claimed that she was terrified when four wolves recently trapped her in her driveway. But biologists note that no human has ever been injured by a wolf since their reintroduction 16 years ago and that there has never been a single documented attack on a human by a healthy wolf in North America.

The Associated Press recently reported that the wolf population in the Northern Rockies actually dropped in 2010 by 5 percent, the first annual decline since their reintroduction, with Idaho seeing a 19 percent decline. Biologists took it as a sign that the wolf population may be stabilizing in the state and may even be starting a slow decline.

Wolves were taken off the endangered list in Idaho and Montana in 2009, which gave the states the right to come up with a management plan for the animals. But that management hasn’t happened because of ongoing legal battles over the interpretation of the Endangered Species Act.

With states fearing federal action to protect the species, no action can be taken until the ESA hangup is hammered out. So, for now, World War Wolf will continue until both sides can agree how to manage the population.

Do you think wolves should keep their protected status in Idaho or be hunted?
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  • ASPEN 2011/04/11 21:18:44
    It's time to hunt them again
    ASPEN
    +15
    Contrary to what the EPA wackos are saying the Wolf is in fact over populated. As the daughter of Cattle, Horse, & Sheep Ranchers we have a huge problem with the over population of Wolves here in the mountains of Colorado and everyone is allowed 10 wolves per year per member in a family. Wolves are dangerous and no longer fear humans which makes them a *Nuisance * and a danger to humans and livestock etc. Denning is also something we do as well. Of course their will be those who don't understand the problem and who will think that allowing Wolves to over populate is a good thing when in fact allowing any species to over populate destroys the eco~system. Man must keep nature balanced.

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  • Alpha 2013/04/16 03:12:23
    They should be protected
    Alpha
    wolves are to be protected at all costs! wolves are afraid of humans. I am a wolf expert, I have 2 wolves of my own. many people around the world care for and help to protect these beautiful creatures. and just to let all stupid illegal wolf hunters know, wolves RARELY kill livestock. they only do if their original food supply is scare, if it's a lone wolf, if it's starvin, or if it's sick. in 2010, according to the USDA, wolves killed a 8,100 head of cattle, resulting in a total revenue loss of 3,646,000 dollars. some people would say that's a lot of money, right? NO IT IS NOT! that's only 3.7 percent of the total of other predators; coyotes, which are everywhere, account for 53.1 percent, or 116,700 head of cattle. other animals which kill more cattle than wolves include: dogs(21,000 head of cattle), big cats like mountain lions, bobcats, and lynx(18,900 head of cattle), and vultures(11,900 head of cattle). wolves are majestic creatures and should always be protected at all times.
  • Ana Luiza 2011/12/12 09:08:29 (edited)
    They should be protected
    Ana Luiza
    http://planetsave.com/2009/03...
    March, 2009
    Alaska abruptly resumed shooting wolves from helicopters this weekend in hopes that shooting the wolves will increase the population of caribou for hunters to kill. The state plans to kill up to 328 wolves, sparing under 100 in the Yukon area.
    Not everyone in Alaska is gung-ho about the plan. The National Park Service has been collaring wolves for a two-decade-long study tracking predator-prey relationships, and now many of those wolves are bound to turn up dead.
    >>UPDATE: Defenders of Wildlife has taken legal action to stop the hunt.
    Source: Planetsave (http://s.tt/12tts)
  • Happy 2011/04/25 16:25:55
    They should be protected
    Happy
    +1
    when they aren't protected the stupid farmers they get completly wiped out, that is what happenned before and i would not want to see it happen again. Especially because according to a National Geographic study wolves kill 1% of sheep deaths in the area, slightly less than wild dogs, bears, cougars and other predators including coyotes who resulted in about 30%. The results of them being extinct in the area severely hurt the environment causing deer and elk to be in huge numbers resulting in humans having to hunt them, which never worked for long and resulted in overgrazing bringing the whole ecosystem down.
  • Tobe 2011/04/12 17:57:03
    They should be protected
    Tobe
    +2
    Of course they should be protected. Humans are also over populated, but you don´t see the wolves or other poor innocent animals hunting usbecause of it..
  • sfxd 2011/04/12 16:58:44
    Undecided
    sfxd
    +1
    I think the IDA-HOES are the only ones who should make that determination.
  • Bulldog 2011/04/12 15:16:43
    It's time to hunt them again
    Bulldog
    +2
    I just love it when hippies and bleeding hearts from the city try to tell people who live off the land that they must just "endure" mass killings of their livestock, and just "suck it up" because an overpopulated predator has made TOO GOOD a comeback!

    Here is a bit of reality, if we continue to allow wolves to overpopulate and feed at will from our livestock herds and flocks, the cost of those agri-based businesses will drive that industry to its death in the U.S. Globalization makes it already hard enough to remain financialy solvent in a country that looks at any business EXCEPT politicians as piggy banks to be raided at will.

    If you think you are paying too much for your food now? Just wait until your only choice for beef is imported beef because nobody dare try to make a living feeding the wolves and then trying to sell what of the herd might be left--all because some hippies living in the city, who never had to work outside a day in their lives THINK they know how to run an ecology that MUST have human interface with it!

    Where the wolves are so plentiful that they do not fear humans and feast at will on our livestock, IT IS TIME TO GO GET SOME BEAUTIFUL NEW WOLF PELTS!

    Where the wolves are truly endangered? Let them be.

    If hippies and bleeding hearts don't like th...



    I just love it when hippies and bleeding hearts from the city try to tell people who live off the land that they must just "endure" mass killings of their livestock, and just "suck it up" because an overpopulated predator has made TOO GOOD a comeback!

    Here is a bit of reality, if we continue to allow wolves to overpopulate and feed at will from our livestock herds and flocks, the cost of those agri-based businesses will drive that industry to its death in the U.S. Globalization makes it already hard enough to remain financialy solvent in a country that looks at any business EXCEPT politicians as piggy banks to be raided at will.

    If you think you are paying too much for your food now? Just wait until your only choice for beef is imported beef because nobody dare try to make a living feeding the wolves and then trying to sell what of the herd might be left--all because some hippies living in the city, who never had to work outside a day in their lives THINK they know how to run an ecology that MUST have human interface with it!

    Where the wolves are so plentiful that they do not fear humans and feast at will on our livestock, IT IS TIME TO GO GET SOME BEAUTIFUL NEW WOLF PELTS!

    Where the wolves are truly endangered? Let them be.

    If hippies and bleeding hearts don't like that? Let them open their wallets and pay for the losses of the ranchers OUT OF THEIR OWN POCKETS!

    Put your money where your mouth is or let the ranchers do what they need to do to survive.

    P.S. If the wolves MUST eat livestock, then there is not enough natural food for them, thus they are OVERPOPULATED!
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  • sfxd Bulldog 2011/04/12 16:59:47
    sfxd
    +2
    Now, there's a real-life perspective from someone with skin in the game. Thumbs up!
  • Bulldog sfxd 2011/04/12 21:07:13
    Bulldog
    +1
    Not any more! But I did have a small ranch back in the day. Still have friends eeking it out though!
  • keliffa 2011/04/12 14:47:27
    Undecided
    keliffa
    +1
    If there is an over population, they should be hunted. If there is not, let them alone.
  • Ana Luiza keliffa 2011/12/12 21:29:03
    Ana Luiza
    +2
    Just like they are doing to us, human beings!
    They want to reduce the population. Yes, "population" cause the governments don't see those who they represent as "people" anymore.
  • gaara417 2011/04/12 14:46:59
    They should be protected
    gaara417
    +1
    killing wolves will screw up the whole ecosystem because other animals, the ones wolves kill will start overpopulation then will eat all the plants and some plants will becme endangered and the the animals will die off, not to mention how adorable wolves are and they really are endangered, well many species of wolves are
  • Leeaqua 2011/04/12 14:41:00
    They should be protected
    Leeaqua
    +1
    Culling the lame and the weak only make other species stronger !
  • JasonKaas 2011/04/12 14:34:36
    They should be protected
    JasonKaas
    +1
    Once again it comes down to people understanding the "circle of life". They have every right to be around and to have a sustainable number. The people who deal with them of course have a better view of their impact on their livestock etc but remember we are the ones pushing them to survive. They need to eat as well.
  • Roblem BN-0 2011/04/12 14:25:26
    They should be protected
    Roblem BN-0
    +1
    All living things should be cherished protected. Except for some criminal elements like child molesters, rapists, and murderers of course.
  • ♥SuperℳagicℳuffinGirl♥ 2011/04/12 14:20:26 (edited)
    They should be protected
    ♥SuperℳagicℳuffinGirl♥
    +2
    There is no need for them to be hunted. This is what happens when you don't let Mother Nature do her work. Now they have a responsibility to those wolves.
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  • w2xad 2011/04/12 14:17:10
    They should be protected
    w2xad
    +3
    It seems that mankind loves playing with the natural balance of nature.
    Every time man does the balancing the results are disastrous and history shows this!
  • greatwh... w2xad 2011/04/13 00:34:27
    greatwhyte2
    yeah and you live in newyork we don't and the reason why thiers so many is that they breed more when times are good and they eat each other win it suits them they are killers and I live where they are they give nothing back to nature but death they cold easly wipe out the elk population if thier numbers get high enough.Then we will be saying kill the wolves so the elk can live.forget it if you don.t live here then don't comment.
  • w2xad greatwh... 2011/04/15 20:37:07
    w2xad
    +1
    There are so many deer here you should see the carnage they leave on our highways!
    Apparently you have NEVER hit any deer or elk with a car
    I can also see that you are ignorant about the balance of nature. You ignorance and fear of wolves shows. Educate yourself!
  • greatwh... w2xad 2011/04/15 23:38:28
    greatwhyte2
    there are tons of deer here but the wolves aren't eating them they like slower livestock and I have no fear of wolves I hunt them they don't hunt me.and your from newyork what do you know about montana living awww nothing keep your insults to your self and educate yourself of minding your fuking buisnes and worry about newyork and all your crime and polution which your contaminating the world with.I think clean air is more important.Your a as.s hole and maybe you should shut your ignorant mouth you stupid city slicker come on up I can show you what it feels like to be hunted.
  • w2xad greatwh... 2011/04/18 15:06:58
    w2xad
    You are an ignorant ass. You nothing of this area You nothing about balance in nature.
    You have never seen the wild areas in New York and seeing that you cannot spell the proof is evident that you are also stupid,probably caused by inbreeding and molesting sheep and other animals.
    Its funny how you went from elk to cows! Do they run when they see you?
  • greatwh... w2xad 2011/04/18 21:30:53
    greatwhyte2
    your a big loser for your age your so outa here.
  • w2xad w2xad 2011/04/18 21:46:31
    w2xad
    greatwhyte2 wears dresses so the farm animals won't hear him pulling down his zipper! Wolves beware!
  • w2xad w2xad 2011/04/18 21:42:54
    w2xad
    greatwhite wears a dress to sneak up on farm animals. They can hear a falling zipper for miles!
  • RickTruelove 2011/04/12 14:13:09
    It's time to hunt them again
    RickTruelove
    +1
    Thin the herds.
  • whitewulf--the unruly mobster 2011/04/12 14:05:52 (edited)
  • chubo 2011/04/12 13:50:28
    They should be protected
    chubo
    +5
    The wolf is a fantastic animal specimen. Do they kill livestock? Yes!. Is the loss of livestock critical? No!
  • Bulldog chubo 2011/04/12 15:15:56
    Bulldog
    Spoken like a person with no skin in the game!

    Let's see how you feel about it when your pay is reduced by the market price of the animals they consume from a herd! Oh....and let's add the costs of raising those wolf "dinners" to the day they are consumed too! For just a yearling calf--the bidding starts at $1500 a meal!

    I'll bet you'll sing a totally different tune then! Either that our you'll be to hungry to sing!

    Of course so long as you don't have to pay for such dinning fare, the loss is never critical!
  • Mom_Im_... Bulldog 2011/04/19 07:27:55
    Mom_Im_an_atheist
    That's why the economic game is to blame--gotta find a new system, not slaughter animals for "profit."
  • Bulldog Mom_Im_... 2011/04/20 20:29:02
    Bulldog
    Nice dream, but somehow, the simple fact that humans cannot live without sustaining their diets with large amounts of animal protein unless they rely on transporting food from around the globe, having doctors on standby to monitor your health, and then supplement vegans' diets with man made supplements.

    So while you dream of a world where we don't need animal flesh for our diets, reality says that the luxury of allowing predators to feed for free on our food supplies because some people don't like it is not sustainable.

    People dream of changing economic "games", Marx did, Lennin did, Mao did.

    Funny thing is, nobody likes working for free...or darn near next to it, while the "leaders" get all the rewards! Slavery tends to piss the workers off, something to do with not getting rewarded for their efforts.

    So until we can evolve to the point where we like to work for free, even when others "freeload"....this economic system is the best one we got.
  • Mom_Im_... Bulldog 2011/05/03 15:52:55
    Mom_Im_an_atheist
    lol--I've been vegan for two years, perfect vitals, no "global transporting" necessary. A cheap supplement for calcium and B-vitamins every other day or so. Try again.
  • Mom_Im_... Mom_Im_... 2011/05/03 15:54:55
    Mom_Im_an_atheist
    In any event, my comment didn't have to do with everyone stopping meat eating, but that more human methods could be developed instead of the absurdly wasteful and cruel methods used now. Incidentally, if you think a non-meat-eating diet would be hard to sustain, how do you imagine it is sustained for all these cows we're feeding? lol---THINK.
  • Mom_Im_... Mom_Im_... 2011/05/03 15:55:23
    Mom_Im_an_atheist
    ...and the only thing keeping the absurd and cruel method churning along is---yup---profit.
  • Bulldog Mom_Im_... 2011/05/03 17:41:47
    Bulldog
    Uh...."A cheap supplement for calcium and B-vitamins every other day or so..."

    Thank you for proving my point. You need to research and find where all the various foodstuffs you need to get your diet originated from hotrod.

    I say again, there is not a single place on the planet that has as it's INDIGINIOUS (that means occurning naturally) plantlife enough variety to provide for proper human nutrition.

    Without moving seeds or plants from all over the world to the United States, there is not enough variety of food in the form of plant matter alone to keep you healthy.

    P.S. What are those supplenments you take if not "man made"?

    Even if they are made from natural sources, they still are not occuring without factories, chemestry and artificial processing.

    Try again yourself.
  • Mom_Im_... Bulldog 2011/05/03 17:54:31
    Mom_Im_an_atheist
    WTF? My point was that meat is not crucial for the human diet. I personally use Emergen-C, it's really cheap in bulk. I'm sure chemicals are used to make it--so?

    Proved what point? If anything you're talking in circles. Do you actually know what the nutrient requirements of the human body are? I'll entertain your tangent, because I'm bored: Name a single CRUCIAL dietary nutrient that cannot be accessed via plant life that either is or can be harvested in in the United States.
  • Bulldog Mom_Im_... 2011/05/03 18:13:36 (edited)
    Bulldog
    As I said before, please look closely at the words used.

    Without man made, artificially produced supplements, OR bringing in plant life that is not indiginous to the region, there is not a single place on earth that has naturally occuring vegitation to complete a healthy diet for human biengs.

    Therefore, a vegan diet, while possible, IS NOT a natually occuring phenomenon!

    A Naturally occuring healthy human diet REQUIRES the supplementation of vegatation with SOME FORM OF ANIMAL OR INSECT PROTIENS OR the use of vegitation not naturally occuring in the area WITH ARTIFICIALLY PRODUCED SUPPLEMENTS!

    Prior to the White man's migration--which involved man bringing non-indigious plant life with them, America did not have Wheat, Barley, Rye, Rice, Potato, Pomegranite, Oranges, the list goes on and on. MAN BROUGHT THOSE HERE IN JUST THE LAST 300 YEARS.

    I beg to inform you of the meaning of the word "indiginous".

    Indiginous: Produced, living, growing, or occuring naturally in a particular region or environment. Ref:http://www.merriam-webste...
    Please pay attention, details are important.

    If you desire to argue further, find some place else, I am done arguing with an idiot.
  • Mom_Im_... Bulldog 2011/05/03 18:37:42
    Mom_Im_an_atheist
    You do realize humans are a part of nature--right? In any case--who cares if the supplements are not "naturally" occurring. Why is this even an issue?

    It appears we have a strawman on our hands...
  • Bulldog Mom_Im_... 2011/05/03 18:59:00
    Bulldog
    So using your logic, then there is no reason to change anything about how we human's live because we are a part of nature...right?

    No need to worry about pollution because if we create it, it is natural?

    You got backed into a corner and you know it.

    Straw man indeed.
  • Mom_Im_... Bulldog 2011/05/09 18:10:00
    Mom_Im_an_atheist
    Typical troll haha. Because I'm a compassionate person, I feel sorry that your mind has clearly been stunted at some stage.
  • Georgia50 2011/04/12 13:50:13 (edited)
    It's time to hunt them again
    Georgia50
    +3
    Those with a financial stake in the balance of the ecosystem say they need to be hunted. Those influenced by the illiterate ivory tower say they must be protected at all cost. This can include the extreme position that protecting human life does not justify killing wildlife.

    I side with the former group and have little to offer the latter group other than my contempt.

    Edit: the last sentence should read "...the latter group's position other than..." instead of "...the latter group..."
  • Lana Georgia50 2011/04/12 14:41:30
    Lana
    +1
    Are the Wolves a danger to humans, NO
    Are humans a danger to themselves, the earth and everything on it, YES we are !

    We have distroyed the planet and have over populated it so maybe it is time to do away with many of the nasty people for once and for all ! We should start with those that have a financial stake ! After all money is the root of ALL EVIL. Now you know where MY CONTEMPT is and always will be ! I find you mean, self conceeded and very uneducated, I would rather share this planet with nature than with people like you any day of the week !
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