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Should we raise taxes on the RICH or cut SPENDING??!!

BlueRepublican 2012/05/08 21:42:56
Tax the Rich!!
Cut Spending!!
BOTH!!!
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This seems to be the argument. The left wants to solve our deficit problems by raising raxes on the rich and using the generated revenue to balance the budget. The right opposes any measure to raise taxes and endorses cutting the pork.

Raising taxes on the rich may be a popular move for the President to campaign especially during an election year. Most Americans are still understandably upset about the economic situation and Wall-Street bail-outs of wealthy bankers and CEO's.

Raising taxes on the wealthy was even endorsed by famous Berkshire Billionaire Warren Buffett. The DNC has capitalized on this momentum as expected.

The GOP paints a different picture. One of uncontrolled spending, unbalanced budgets and MASSIVE national debt. They argue that we cannot raise taxes on the 'job creators' at this time. The GOP leadership feels that austerity measures and cuts all-across-the-board are necessary.

The stakes are high. In Europe the wealthy are leaving due to outrageous proposed tax hikes up to 75% in some countries. Due to recent unpopular but necessary austerity measures taken by some countries in Europe, people have taken to the street in protest of cuts to their 'entitlements', so.....
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Should we raise taxes on the RICH or cut SPENDING??!!
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  • scbluesman13 2012/05/08 22:26:27
    BOTH!!!
    scbluesman13
    +11
    Doing only spending cuts and austerity measures will only slow the growth of the economy, and force the public sector to cut their resources so bare bones, that recovery might never really happen again. This government cannot continue down the path of privatizing profits and publicizing its debt. There has to be more of a balance.
    People forget that when government shrinks, real jobs in the public sector are being lost, which to any given American, is a job. While it's great that the private sector is picking back up again, we won't truly see a nationwide recovery until the public sector also stops bleeding jobs.

    Bush-era tax cuts have to expire. This is an 750+ billion dollar boondoggle that has not incentivized the wealthiest taxpayers in this country to create more of anything other than more wealth for themselves. Of this total tax cut package, just over $400B is going to the top 5% of wealthiest Americans, while the remaining alottment goes to the bottom 95%. That is not a fiscally responsible spending measure, and it has clearly been doing more harm than good.

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  • Beltazar 2012/05/31 03:13:23
    BOTH!!!
    Beltazar
    Why raise taxes.. esp when I can find over $4 billion today..
    http://www.wthr.com/video?cli...
  • teamrn 2012/05/21 04:53:13 (edited)
    Cut Spending!!
    teamrn
    Ugh! Joe Biden sounded like an angry man with a chip on his shoulder when I heard him. Especially the one where he said that his mother told him that 'you always could be:wealthy.

    If there is a second Obama/Biden term, you can rest assured that the country will go into such financial disaster from their policies that Joe's boys WON'T be able to afford the Presidency or WHATEVER THEY WANT TO ACHIEVE. Those days will be gone.
  • Steve 2012/05/20 19:57:25
    BOTH!!!
    Steve
    The military budget should be cut deeply. We don't need to be running a global military empire any more.
  • jubil8 BN-0 PON 2012/05/18 21:45:02
    BOTH!!!
    jubil8 BN-0 PON
    +1
    Thanks for that option, Blue. :)

    It's not so much raising the tax rate as it is amending the Tax Code. The 6 brackets we have are stupid. We need to collect less from the low-end -- paying 15% on $50K leaves you with $35K, while paying 35% on $1M leaves you with $650K. Sure, $350K in taxes is a lot, but you have a lot more left. And brackets need to be adjusted. And, of course, close loopholes and eliminate credits. The fact that someone named Koch or Rockefeller gets a government subsidy for ANYTHING is outrageous.

    Before you call me a Liberal, don't forget that the $35K family pays the same sales taxes, buys the same food, gas, utilities, and holds a mortgage/pays rent, etc. as the $650K family. I'm not saying punish the rich; I'm saying the less successful need more help.

    Since the "job creators" haven't created one job in 7 years, that argument is dead. Congress doesn't EVER suggest giving up any of its perks or policing its own house better. Our government is so full of sacred cows that it's amazing anyone can walk in DC without stepping in cow patties.

    I'd like to see LOTS of departments cut massively, maybe not eliminated altogether. Once you start doing that, it's just "my faves" against yours, and we'll never settle anything. But I'd bet that there isn...

    Thanks for that option, Blue. :)

    It's not so much raising the tax rate as it is amending the Tax Code. The 6 brackets we have are stupid. We need to collect less from the low-end -- paying 15% on $50K leaves you with $35K, while paying 35% on $1M leaves you with $650K. Sure, $350K in taxes is a lot, but you have a lot more left. And brackets need to be adjusted. And, of course, close loopholes and eliminate credits. The fact that someone named Koch or Rockefeller gets a government subsidy for ANYTHING is outrageous.

    Before you call me a Liberal, don't forget that the $35K family pays the same sales taxes, buys the same food, gas, utilities, and holds a mortgage/pays rent, etc. as the $650K family. I'm not saying punish the rich; I'm saying the less successful need more help.

    Since the "job creators" haven't created one job in 7 years, that argument is dead. Congress doesn't EVER suggest giving up any of its perks or policing its own house better. Our government is so full of sacred cows that it's amazing anyone can walk in DC without stepping in cow patties.

    I'd like to see LOTS of departments cut massively, maybe not eliminated altogether. Once you start doing that, it's just "my faves" against yours, and we'll never settle anything. But I'd bet that there isn't ONE federal agency/department/service that couldn't be pruned effectively, some MUCH more than others.

    If I had to choose, I'd say control spending. Prove the ability to be fiscally responsible or go home. We're so far in debt now getting more tax revenue won't do any good -- all the draining, poorly managed, worthless programs will still be there.
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  • Dana 2012/05/13 23:11:39 (edited)
  • Spizzzo BN-0 2012/05/13 03:13:51
    BOTH!!!
    Spizzzo BN-0
    The problem with making the false claim that the GOP will balance the budget is the slight fact that every, single budget they propose is expected to increase the deficit and debt.
  • Timetraveler 2012/05/11 23:18:48
    BOTH!!!
    Timetraveler
    I thought I was the only timetraveler but it seems some people here are stuck in a past where big business kept the jobs in America, kept their corporate headquarters in America, and banked in America! now they run to other countries for the cheap labor, and return with the goods manufactured there, to sell them to the very people who's jobs they took away! they locate their headquarters outside America to avoid the measley taxes their responsible for, and were suppose to feel sorry for them! they say wisdom is learning what to overlook. but we have allowed these traitors to move commerce in and out of America, without accountability! it's bad enough that the government is an association of rich men who do violence against the rest of us, but they ask that we sacrifice the very people we love the most to support their terroritoral wars. we need to wise up and rise up! How unfair the fate which ordains that those that have the least, should be always adding to the treasury of the wealthy! True Liberty can exist when justice is equally administered to all. Tax the bastards till they bleed!
  • keeper 2012/05/10 23:26:39
    BOTH!!!
    keeper
    Especially raise the taxes on politicians!
  • God ble... keeper 2012/05/11 19:50:14
    God bless American freedom
    stop all their perks , every last perk/right.
  • Beccy 2012/05/10 23:13:37
    BOTH!!!
    Beccy
    The bush tax cuts need to go and probably ther reagan ones also. They could start the cuts buy stopping the no bid contracts and finding the money that was lost in Iraq.
  • All American 2012/05/10 13:05:07
    Cut Spending!!
    All American
    Live within your means.
  • God ble... All Ame... 2012/05/11 19:50:58
    God bless American freedom
    YOU MEAN ??? Spend LESS than your income???
  • All Ame... God ble... 2012/05/11 21:41:59
    All American
    No, spend no more that you have coming in.
  • God ble... All Ame... 2012/05/17 21:53:44 (edited)
    God bless American freedom
    your way means no plan for the future eh? Part of planning/spending involves the future eh? As well as paying off all present debt/ gong out of the red and into the black so to speak, eh?

    I think we should stop sending any tax dollars of any kind outside US borders.. including stopping all funding of the UN and any overseas aid.
  • Beltazar God ble... 2012/05/31 03:14:36
    Beltazar
    http://www.wthr.com/video?cli...

    Here is $4billion we could use..
  • William 2012/05/09 23:08:53
    BOTH!!!
    William
    If congressional Democrats will agree to cut defense by 25 percent and ALL OTHER PROGRAMS by 15 percent, I'll solicit my congresscritter to raise taxes on the rich. One without the other, makes no sense.
  • relic 2012/05/09 22:25:54
    Cut Spending!!
    relic
    +3
    You can't raise taxes high enough to put a dent in the debt.
  • Sumātogai 2012/05/09 20:38:29
    BOTH!!!
    Sumātogai
    One will help the other.
  • MJ 2012/05/09 16:00:34
    BOTH!!!
    MJ
    +1
    Both please!
  • Patric 2012/05/09 14:53:17
    Cut Spending!!
    Patric
    +1
    I look at this way,,

    trying to fill a bucket with water..
    there are holes in the bucket
    no matter how much I put into the bucket , it just drains to the ground

    no matter how much $$ the liberals get into the tax system, they will spend that amount and then borrow from China to spend more and more.

    stop the spending, stop the drain of our $$$$ ...

    if the rich were taxed at the 100% rate, it still is not enuff..

    stop the spending... stop the free loaders ,, stop the entitlement programs...

    stop obomma now...
  • mwg0735 2012/05/09 14:32:16
  • Patric mwg0735 2012/05/09 14:54:40
    Patric
    +2
    hmmm,, 1/2 pay nothing ??

    do you think, may be, they will vote into office obomma who will give them a raise in their entitlement programs ??/

    you bet they will try..
  • mwg0735 Patric 2012/05/09 15:00:11
  • God ble... Patric 2012/05/17 21:58:50
    God bless American freedom
    +1
    two of my neighbors brag they not only pay zero income tax... but they also get thousands in " refunds"/entitlements. Not having seen their tax returns wth my own eyes ,.. I have no idea of this is true... but it makes me ill to think of it.
  • DM Twin 2012/05/09 14:10:56
  • ☆ Queen... DM Twin 2012/05/10 00:39:24
    ☆ QueenAline
    +1
    crystal clear...and I agree
  • beavith1 2012/05/09 13:38:54
    Cut Spending!!
    beavith1
    +3
    Cut spending substantially, first.

    stop these '10 year projections' those are offered to intentionally mislead.

    reduce the repatriation of overseas profit taxes from 35% to 12%.

    encourage drilling everywhere. every barrel of oil drilled here is not a barrel frilled over there and bought with money that adds to our trade balance.

    at the same time, go through the tax code and start hacking at that.

    THEN and ONLY then, see IF taxes need to be increased.
  • Shae 2012/05/09 13:33:55
    Cut Spending!!
    Shae
    +3
    Please.... we can't afford this!
  • MW121 2012/05/09 11:11:56
    Cut Spending!!
    MW121
    +3
    We don't have a tax problem, we have a spending problem... I'm so sick of paying more and more, it's ridiculous.. Why even work and become successful.. Might as well be like everyone else and take take take.. 43+% of American's don't even pay federal taxes... We need a flat tax and everyone will pay..
  • God ble... MW121 2012/05/11 19:53:00
    God bless American freedom
    government spending and energy costs seem to be the drivng force behind every rising price eh?
  • Lady Whitewolf 2012/05/09 09:57:41
    BOTH!!!
    Lady Whitewolf
    +1
    CUT wasteful spending and RAISE taxes big-time on the wealthiest!
  • beavith1 Lady Wh... 2012/05/09 13:39:36
    beavith1
    funny. exactly what the democrats and President say.
  • 4570GOVT 2012/05/09 07:39:38
    Cut Spending!!
    4570GOVT
    +5
    Taxing The UBER RICH Will Do Nothing To Save Us From The WILD & RECKLESS Spending Of This Administration . Even Warren Buffet Said That " The Buffet Rule " Is A RUSE And will Do NOTHING To Reduce The Debt ! If the rich gave up 100% of their earnings this year , it wouldn't even make a Blip On The Radar .......... NOTHING ! This is nothing but Obama's Attempt At " CLASS WAREFARE " .......... a trick used by Communists & Marxists for the last century .

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ CUT SPENDING ! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ NOBAMA 2012 ! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
  • chgo 2012/05/09 05:08:20
    BOTH!!!
    chgo
    +2
    The military, government contracts, Congress, etc.
  • sjalan 2012/05/09 04:57:39
    BOTH!!!
    sjalan
    +2
    Largest % cuts should be in military and congress itself.

    Minimum of 50% cut in Congress's own budget. No more retirement program. No more medical program.

    Miltary should be examined from top to bottom for cost savings. Biggest one should be in the procurement processes.

    Now for the Big One

    GET IT THROUGH YOUR HEAD, SOCIAL SECURITY AND MEDICARE ARE NOT ENTITLEMENTS!!!!! I REPEAT THEY ARE NOT ENTITLEMENTS.

    We pay for these via withholding from our paychecks and I'll be damned if you and your neocons are going to get away with stealing MY prepaid retirement programs from me and stick me with a bigger bill.

    Taxing the rich in times of war and economic distress has ALWAYS been the case until BUSH II came along. He gave away over $5 TRILLION in tax cuts and it is the ghost of those tax cuts that still haunt us today. He started two wars that were unfunded at a cost of over $4 TRILLION DOLLARS and they are still haunting us today.

    I suggest you pull you head out of your posterior orifice and see sunshine for once in your life.
  • Lady Wh... sjalan 2012/05/09 09:58:56
    Lady Whitewolf
    +5
    "GET IT THROUGH YOUR HEAD, SOCIAL SECURITY AND MEDICARE ARE NOT ENTITLEMENTS!!!!! I REPEAT THEY ARE NOT ENTITLEMENTS....! "

    exactly!
  • beavith1 Lady Wh... 2012/05/09 13:47:59
    beavith1
    you can repeat it all you want. it doesn't make it true.
  • sjalan beavith1 2012/05/09 15:23:22
    sjalan
    +3
    Social Security and Medicare are prepaid retirement/medical programs, they are NOT entitlements. They come out of our checks every payday. They are NOT supported by general fund monies.

    Frankly they should NEVER have been lumped into the general budget. They are a trust fund established for future payouts to those who have paid in.

    Frankly itis people like yourself that have not seen what has happened and don't care what will happen.
  • beavith1 sjalan 2012/05/09 15:55:05
    beavith1
    when that money has been spent, and those future expenditures will be coming out of someone else's taxes, well, its then BECOME an entitlement.

    i agree

    i do see. and am appalled. its people like you that want what you want, when you want it, no matter where the money comes from, that have issues.

    these problems have been brewing for a long time. Obama ran on hope and change and is just doing more 'kicking of the can down the road.' LOTS more.
  • sjalan beavith1 2012/05/09 21:44:30 (edited)
    sjalan
    +1
    When SS and then Medicare were created they were set up as TRUSTS, funded by the dedicated premiums taken each payday. Look it up today IT IS STILL A TRUST FUND!! Separate and distinct yet lumped into the budget when it should not be. By many estimates the Federal government OWES THE TRUST FUND more than $68 TRILLION DOLLARS in improper withdrawls and interest.

    As far as I am concerned your attitude towards those of us who have put money into these prepaid programs which we have planned our retiremenst around, you bet we expect to withdraw as we have been lead to believe we will be able to withdraw. No cuts no increases in deductables, no decreases in services. It is most certainly NOT an attitude of "its people like you that want what you want, when you want it," it is an expectation that I have NOT BEEN LIED TO and damned well expect to be paid as was promised.

    YOUR ATTACK ON PRESIDENT OBAMA IS A COPOUT AND NOTHING LESS.
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