Should We Leave Afghanistan?

This is a war we cannot win. The enemy is psychotic on a level that noone on earth can deal with rationally. These people are willing to die for their beliefs, so we essentially are over there using all our resources to make these nutjobs happy.

i hope we can stop wasting lives and money on this very soon. I am sure it's not as simple as just leave. but, i hope we can work it out to be happening soon

hell yes! I don't even get why we are there.

...and as we leave, we should present them with a live nuke or a chemical/biological bomb ticking down as a good-bye present. *That* should clean out all the scum. (Kinda like using a bug bomb to clean out a roach infestation.)

Unfortunately, to leave now, is to have to come back later, with a bigger army.

or one big bomb.

Despite the dire predictions by the "hawks" at the time we didn't have to return to Viet Nam with a bigger army (or a bigger bomb) ... see comment below)) We should have left "yesterday".

Yes Vietnam ! such memories! anyways, I was not able to see your comment below so I maybe way off base here. Okay I believe that today Vietnam is a communist government trying to infuse capitalism in order to maintain the economy correct?
Also from many things I have read. I believe that much like south Korea the people would be today far better served had we succeeded. Communism has been tried in all it's various forms for over a hundred years with out true success for the people. Man has tried everything you can think of and the newest idea after all the research is capitalism and the free market. What if we tried to bring the world up to our standards instead of bring the united states down to theirs? I'm rambling sorry. I believe that if you want to change a nation from being a 7th century relic, one would have to have to win the war, settle the population, set up a government, help build an army to defend its self, then maintain bases there for at least 3 generations (measuring each generation on a 20 year span). See like muslims I think a free nation and a free market is the best way to go for the individual. The problem with the elites is they can't understand why you might like to mudding on saturdays.

Everything you say MIGHT be true, however, I don't feel it is the "job" of the U.S. government to be "nation builders", especially when doing so wastes taxpayer dollars. Following your philosophy, we should be invading at least a dozen nations to "bring them up to our level": at the cost how how many more (w-a-s-t-e-d) lives? .... how many more billions of dollars -- talk about "wasteful spending"!!! Want to "nation build"? -- start with the U.S.A. Why, in this self-proclaimed "greatest country in the world" do we have (I believe the latest figure is about 14 million) Americans living below the government established "poverty level"?; why do Americans, particularly seniors, have to choose between paying for groceries or their medication?; why does "Wall Street", no matter how badly it screws up, continue to "laugh all the way to the bank" while ordinary citizens who "scrimped and saved and invested" can do no better than "start over"? .... etc., etc., etc. -- want to "build a nation"? -- start by fixing all the things that are wrong with America!!!!!! -- then worry about others. I could "go on" for pages, but I think you get my point.

Yup.. Bring all those boys home and put them on our borders.

then their tourism would be down

The money we are wasting to fight a war in Countries that don't want us there can better well be spent on America and it's "Legal Citizens"!! Then again for that to happen we must make a huge move to clean out Washington and the parasites that are now residing there.

Don't get why we're still there. The last I heard, our soldiers are
training theirs.

Its a battle we will never win

We need to finish the job first, then leave. The problem is that Congress won't let our troops and their commanders do their jobs. The Radical Liberals of the country want to turn it into another Viet Nam, some to relive their youth, some to feel like they were part of the same sort of nonsense their grandparents were in, some through pure ignorance, all because they haven't truly thought things through. We could finish this war, and the one in Iraq very quickly, and save money in the long-run, if Congress would just back-the-@#$%-off of the military commanders and let them do it.

There is no job to finish.
We were done the day we got saddam. should have packed up and shipped out that very night. Leave them to their hell.They went to great pains to make it what it is today, They don't want it fixed. They hate us even more for trying. They don't see anything that needs fixing. It's not America. Stop trying to make it America and bring the boys back home.

We dont have any business there.

We certainly do, on many levels. Remember, they started this war. Plus, think of all the bleeding-hearts that pushed so hard to get us there because of all the human rights violations, the Opium trade, and the illegal diamonds and such. The list goes on and on, but I'm not going to waste my time trying to convince you; you should take the time to really look at this objectively and research it yourself. There's a plethora of information available on the internet especially, but don't just look at the biased, liberal-controlled mainstream media, or just the jaded opinions of Liberals posted on blogs and vlogs, trying to pass themselves off as authoritative sources.

Its not our territory and we are not needed there. Getting out at 2014 is way to late and pure waste of money we could use to pay the deficit off. If you want to complain about human right violations start here in the USA there is enough to do in that behalf. Well and no I am not interested in biased information brother I am also not interested to send one soldier into another country unless its an emergency.

The bottom line is that we can't afford to be over there right now. Nuke it or leave it the hell alone.

Yes...and Iraq.

Win the damned war first, then leave! What is it about our New Castrati government (since Vietnam) that sends our boys and girls to war, and then handcuffs them? Troops have rules against firing on mosques, even when fired upon from them, and this Vietnamesque "don't fire until fired upon" order. WTF? Unleash our military might on a backward ass Middle Eastern country and the war will be over in months, if not days.

This is exactly why we should leave. We can't fight a war with both hands tied behind our back.

Yeah, if BO refuses to let them be untied, we might as well effing leave.

You should have never gone there in the first place.

Wrong!

How? How can you possibly find ONE positive aspect to this?

We break, we have to fix..

yes and no
no because if we leave now that we are over there, people might be dependent on the US military being over there
yes because we really cant afford to have so many troops over there being killed and used

i kinda agree with that but the ones that are shouting the comments were probably always against the US. I do want us to leave thats why i marked yes instead of no, it just my worry of the people thats there that are dependant of the US military, are going to be left without a defense

You can not reason with, or win the hearts and minds of primitives. Leave them to their own means and the heroin selling warlords will provide the ends.

President Obama should never have escalated war in Afghanistan. I believe he listened to Pentagon top officials, a huge mistake. The U.S. has enough problems still in Iraq, and still spending millions of U.S. money there; though Iraq is becoming more unstable. My son was in Iraq a few years ago and currently in Iraq in a non fighting position for the U.S. Navy. Bush was responsible for starting the mess in Iraq; it is now more difficult to leave. The first Bush President who invaded Iraq for Kuwait refused to capture Saddam Hussein, though advised to do so. He believed this would cause a long term commitment in Iraq by the U.S. which has turned out to be the case.
All the billions sent to Afghanistan, and Pakistan wound up creating a strong corrupt government helping the Taliban become more powerful. Let us face facts; Gen. McChrystal could not do the job; no general is going to make any difference. When Obama became U.S. President I never expected him to escalate more war; he was too weak to say no to the Pentagon, now he is stuck. Our troops could be fighting the Taliban for many years. Taliban also use innocent citizens as shields. Nothing is being accomplished accept wasting more money, and lives, inviting more terror attacks against the United States. You cannot fight such diversity of culture and factions.

We have no business there.

We should set some attainable goals, knock them out, and move on.

We should bring ALL of our troops home.

There is nothing to be gained by staying in Afghanistan It is not worth the loss of one more American to defend a country full of Muslims that hate us anyway! We should go back to controlling our own borders and make our own country a great place to live again! If they want to control terrorist scum do it here at home Washington is full of them!
Seriously folks are these the people we need to win the hearts and minds of? WHY?

You are so clueless.

What did dick miss????