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Should we give tax breaks to companies that provide employees tuition reimbursement?

BlueRepublican 2012/07/12 21:14:06
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There's a lot of rhetoric back & forth about what to do regarding outsourcing of American jobs. The govt of course wants to use taxpayer dollars to create a certain outcome within the business community. They feel the answer is to subsidize.

Both parties agree that the American taxpayer needs to subsidize these big companies to save jobs. They do not want to force these companies to become more efficient and competitive in the global economy.

Unfortunately what happens is that they later get in trouble and need a MASSIVE stimulus aka bail-out from those same TAXPAYERS in order to stay afloat. In some cases we bail them out and they go bankrupt anyway.

So both parties agree that legislators in Washington DC need to use YOUR money to promote a desired outcome, like $7,500 tax credit towards purchase of a Chevy VOLT.
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Blue, what does this have to do with the question?
Glad you asked. BEHOLD, here's my suggestion for your consideration...

We have a student loan crisis in this country and the bubble, like the housing crisis, will eventually burst. Soaring tuition rates and ill-advised students and easy access to taxpayer-backed govt loans are driving up the cost of education.

In the same manner that we subsidize companies that keep jobs here in America, let's give tax breaks to those who provide tuition reimbursement for their employees. This will decrease/eliminate the amount students borrow, decrease the cost of college for students, reward those who will work/study, and save the taxpayers BILLIONS in the Education budget. It incentivizes companies to provide this benefit and CREATES JOBS!!!

Tell me what you think? Do you agree, disagree, have a different opinion? Then vote right now and leave me a comment, share and don't forget to RAVE!!!
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  • BigFig#9 2012/07/12 22:10:38
    YES
    BigFig#9
    +3
    And they already do.... Perhaps instead of just calling it a business expense you may want to go all in for a TAX credit? History of Tax Credit abuse is scary. Let's just allow them to deduct like any other expense.

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  • jubil8 BN-0 PON 2012/07/26 16:45:54
    YES
    jubil8 BN-0 PON
    BUT... I think we need to cut spending and reform taxes before we add more spending.
  • aneed2know 2012/07/13 06:09:31
    YES
    aneed2know
    as long as the companies don't have a rule saying you must take classes directly related to your job, i see nothing wrong with it, and it would save a lot more money. I also like what president Obama did with student loans and taking it from the banks and doing it directly saving about 50 billion a year.
  • jubil8 ... aneed2know 2012/07/26 16:35:14
    jubil8 BN-0 PON
    But... I can see a company not wanting to subsidize your "Philosophy and Star Trek" class (yes, that really exists). So there should be standards about a degree-related program or something, not just random classes, don't you think?
  • aneed2know jubil8 ... 2012/07/27 05:22:53
    aneed2know
    +1
    Some standards but not a whole degree program, i would say a major that has real world applications. not some minor classes.
  • jubil8 ... aneed2know 2012/07/27 22:18:21
    jubil8 BN-0 PON
    +1
    Right, that's along the lines I was thinking.
  • Marek 2012/07/13 01:21:17
    NO
    Marek
    The taxes should be lowered for everybody and all deductions and loopholes eliminated. Anyone wants to go to college should pay for it. In some cases federal assistance maybe OK under strict guidelines and students meeting the performance requirements. If companies deem it beneficial, they may chose to pay the tuitions for employees but that should not entitle them to handouts. Considering that taxes would be significantly lower and cost of accounting the companies will be able to afford to pay for their employees education.
  • BlueRep... Marek 2012/07/13 16:52:52
    BlueRepublican
    +1
    Marek, that makes waaay too much sense for our lawmakers. That's why it will never happen.
  • Cyan9 2012/07/13 01:07:00
    NO
    Cyan9
    +1
    we have an onerous amount of tax breaks, subsides and loopholes. Let's try closing some of them before we make new ones?
  • RogerCoppock 2012/07/12 23:23:26
    NO
    RogerCoppock
    +1
    NO, LET'S CUT OUT THE MIDDLEMAN. LET'S SUPPORT STUDENTS DIRECTLY.
  • kudabux 2012/07/12 23:04:52
    NO
    kudabux
    Many companies provide incentives to further your education and probably get something from the feds already. For instance, a registered nurse recently received her BA in nursing totally paid for by the hospital. Another friend of mine who works for an insurance company received her BA, also totally paid for by the company she works for. I will bet both institutions received something from the fed.
  • Lady Whitewolf 2012/07/12 23:03:32
    YES
    Lady Whitewolf
    +1
    Sounds lilke a good idea.
  • Kane Fernau 2012/07/12 22:44:47
    NO
    Kane Fernau
    There is an agreement for repayment by working for the company for a period of time.
  • Jackie G - Poker Playing Pa... 2012/07/12 22:39:21
    NO
    Jackie G - Poker Playing Patriot
    Some companies do offer this benefit to their employees and some take advantage of it. But no, no more tax breaks.
  • BigFig#9 2012/07/12 22:10:38
    YES
    BigFig#9
    +3
    And they already do.... Perhaps instead of just calling it a business expense you may want to go all in for a TAX credit? History of Tax Credit abuse is scary. Let's just allow them to deduct like any other expense.
  • aherbert 2012/07/12 21:52:11
    YES
    aherbert
    +3
    I worked for two companies that provided tuition reimbursement ... it is an excellent benefit.
  • BlueRep... aherbert 2012/07/12 22:00:55
    BlueRepublican
    +2
    Thank you aherbert. Imagine if ALL companies did?
  • aneed2know aherbert 2012/07/13 06:14:03
    aneed2know
    +1
    i work for a company that does that also, but most of the times you have to go to college and take classes that relate directly to the job you have. What happens when you leave that job, get fired or downsized or outsourced. Your stuck with a degree that may not work for other careers.

    But i still think it would be a great ideal, with some rules to take advantage of it.
  • BlueRep... aneed2know 2012/07/13 16:55:44
    BlueRepublican
    +1
    Thanks Aneed. I think if students pick general degrees like accounting, human resources, business management, etc... then they can use that degree in other positions; free education, a paycheck, and a better job later.
  • aneed2know BlueRep... 2012/07/14 04:08:35
    aneed2know
    so they should just pick classes that they may not have any interest in or even like, just so they can say i have a degree? What ever happen to being happy in your work?

    And isn't this what conservatives got their panties in a bunch about, people telling them they must do this or that, ya know kind of like a MANDATE?
  • BlueRep... aneed2know 2012/07/16 17:31:58
    BlueRepublican
    Don't be silly. I am not talking about a MANDATE. I'm trying to take some of the expense of education off the taxpayers and onto private companies by providing an incentive.
    If you want to pursue that exotic specialty degree than by all means feel free :-)
  • aherbert aneed2know 2012/07/13 21:56:19
    aherbert
    Yes that is how it worked with my company ... I got a business degree emphasizing Information Systems ... I was able to take my education elsewhere ... after I gave a year of support to my company after I received my degree. It sincerely worked for me as I received my degree with no out of pocket cost ... other than my gas, food and time ... it so worked at that time ...
  • wolf sloan 2012/07/12 21:48:04
    Undecided
    wolf sloan
    Giving a tax break in lieu of a student loan? Something to look into at least. Got to keep the bean counters working too, I guess.
  • ray 2012/07/12 21:47:33
    NO
    ray
    WHY ???
    There is no shortage of worthless degrees floating around pumped out by the diploma mills.

    Many companies will already pay for classes that benefit the company .
    The IRS allows deducting the cost of training that advances current career .

    So ,where is advantage?
  • BlueRep... ray 2012/07/12 21:51:40
    BlueRepublican
    More companies providing college tuition benefits for employees. Less taxpayer subsidized 'worthless degrees', more jobs/hiring, lower costs to Fed education budget, lower college costs for students overall.
  • ray BlueRep... 2012/07/12 23:37:38
    ray
    Companies and employees can already deduct the cost of education as related to their profession or employment already . The tax incentive is already in place.

    Should others be paid for reading books and magazines ? They are educating them selves at no cost . How will they cash in ?

    What about apprentices , interns and understudies ? Where will be their tax / cash benefit.

    What of those whom use the internet ? There are myriad educational videos . Should they be paid for educating themselves ?

    Trade schools ? Technical schools ? Seminars ? Lectures?

    Every class earns payments or just approved classes ?
  • BlueRep... ray 2012/07/12 23:46:58
    BlueRepublican
    If you are already employed and seeking to further your education within that field, then, why not provide incentives for companies to co-operate on that candidate's educational expenses?
    Keeps people employed, creates jobs, lowers educational costs overall, etc..
  • ray BlueRep... 2012/07/13 00:19:47
    ray
    +1
    The incentive to improve your living conditions is all that is required .
    If someone thinks more school will do that they find a way.
    The trillion dollar debt bubble for college is about to burst .

    Hunger keeps people employed . Pumping more easy money into the system is what allows educational costs to rise .
    The price of schools will rise to the level of available cash.
    How in the World Did College Costs Rise 15% in Only 2 Years?
    "Part of the reason the actual tuition students (and their parents) are paying is rising slower than advertised prices may have to do with President Obama's expansion of the Pell Grant program, which the awards low-income students money to help pay for school. An additional 1.5 million undergrads received Pell Grants in 2009-2010 compared with two years before. At the least expensive schools, that influx of federal money may have given them the leeway to up prices without penalizing students too seriously.**"
    http://www.theatlantic.com/bu...
  • lee 2012/07/12 21:47:21
    YES
    lee
    +2
    tax what you want less of, and exempt what you want more of.

    this is the ONLY language corporations understand... that's why they send armies of lobbyists to DC every year to get the tax code tilted to what THEY want to do....

    we the people don't have lobbyists, so guess who wins this daily battle for congressional eyeballs?
  • BlueRep... lee 2012/07/12 21:53:59
    BlueRepublican
    We have to use the system against them in order to get our way. They're already providing tax breaks, so why not use the tax code in order to provide affordable college education?
    Both parties want to increase the education budget because it is politically wise to do so.
    Why not play them both for our benefit?
  • lee BlueRep... 2012/07/12 22:18:21
    lee
    i agree...

    where is your lobbist?
  • BlueRep... lee 2012/07/12 22:36:10
    BlueRepublican
    It's called my vote :-)
  • lee BlueRep... 2012/07/12 23:19:30
    lee
    you are out gunned.
  • BlueRep... lee 2012/07/12 23:26:31
    BlueRepublican
    Don't worry Lee, we are not. It is still one vote per person if I recall.
    We are losing the war on information, though.
  • lee BlueRep... 2012/07/12 23:38:44
    lee
    money = speech... and corporations have a lot more of it than we do.

    as long as that equation remains true, we will lose.
  • BlueRep... lee 2012/07/13 00:25:22
    BlueRepublican
    +1
    You know darn well that money does not equal speech. I don't agree with the SC on that ruling, but I agree with you that we need campaign finance reform. GOP should listen to this guy...
    buddy roemer
  • lee BlueRep... 2012/07/13 00:58:40
    lee
    +1
    yup.

    buddy is cool.
  • aneed2know BlueRep... 2012/07/13 06:16:03
    aneed2know
    i like Buddy, but at times he does seem a little unhinged.
  • jeepster4 2012/07/12 21:42:36
    Undecided
    jeepster4
    +1
    Employee tuition is a normal business expense which is a pre tax item. What in Hell does this have to do with 'subsidies' or 'tax breaks'.
  • NarcolepticGoat 2012/07/12 21:41:24 (edited)
    YES
    NarcolepticGoat
    +2
    There are so many jobs going unfilled because companies can't find anyone qualified. Masters or Doctorates required and such. If the companies help employees go for masters and doctorates they can solve this issue, the company gets a tax break, and the employee slips into a higher tax bracket. Win all around.

    Edit: and someone will be hired to fill the employee's place when she's promoted.
  • BlueRep... Narcole... 2012/07/12 21:55:05
    BlueRepublican
    +1
    Someone's getting it. Thanks NG.
    We may have a position in Sodahead Public Relations for ya' :-)

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