Should voters insist on a Constitutional amendment setting two term limits on all elected officials?
merlinskiss
2012/08/01 19:15:55
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Just like the President. Two terms and go back and get a real job. No benefits, pension, perks or anything else the average American doesn't get.
If the people of Mass like their representives and want to relect them time and again then that is their business people in Colorado shouldn't say you have to get out of office.
Now it would likely be a end result that people got out of politics sooner if there was less money and benefits involved. And the People can force this change by simply threatening to recall or not vote for their own reps who do not agree to more limited pay and benefits, but you still have the problem of lobbyists who help those bank rolls. So perhaps teh FAIR TAX is the answer again as it shuts down K street and those deep pockets
I would also like to see a repeal of the 17th Amendment and returning the power back to the States' legislatures to elect U.S. Senators. Maybe the Senate would revert back to representing the States instead of a popularity contest which elected idiots like these--->
In addition, I would also consider term limits for the Supreme Court to one 14 year term. It would breathe fresh air into Washington getting rid of Ginsburg, Breyer, Kagan and Sotomayor instead of hanging on to them for decades.
My point is term limits could work to break the cycle of having the greatest country in history being run by incompetent, self-serving, America-hating socialists. I don't know what the exact percentage is, but for everyone like you who educates himself before going to the polls, there are at least that many people who have no idea whatsoever of who they are casting their ballots for. Based on performance, Obama's numbers should be hovering around 10%, but many will vote for him because he's black, they are slaves to government generosity with taxpayer money or they like the way he speaks.
Sorry, I will get off my soapbox - can you tell I am frustrated because I think we deserve better? Again, my apologies for misunderstanding your post. You are quite correct!
I spent the best part of 2008 and 2009 reading books written during the and about the inner war years. For instance, I sometimes wonder what Negro slaves felt when hearing the phrase "America the land of the free." Ha ha ha How can our Constitution be wholesome with the advent of: 911, the patriot Act, State Sponsored Assassination and Executive Privilege. America is the only country to go from barbarism to decadence without passing civilization in between - Oscar Wilde.
We are on a race to doom. We have passed the point of return. 1984 should be our bible. If you want a vision of the future, imagine a jack boot stomping on a human face - FOREVER!
England has had cameras in place since the mid 70s, report friends of mine from across the pond. We re write History, just read our schools text books; we have thought control, Rupert Murdoch and his media conglomerate; we have re education prisons, Guantanamo Bay; we have country's lobbing bomb...
I spent the best part of 2008 and 2009 reading books written during the and about the inner war years. For instance, I sometimes wonder what Negro slaves felt when hearing the phrase "America the land of the free." Ha ha ha How can our Constitution be wholesome with the advent of: 911, the patriot Act, State Sponsored Assassination and Executive Privilege. America is the only country to go from barbarism to decadence without passing civilization in between - Oscar Wilde.
We are on a race to doom. We have passed the point of return. 1984 should be our bible. If you want a vision of the future, imagine a jack boot stomping on a human face - FOREVER!
England has had cameras in place since the mid 70s, report friends of mine from across the pond. We re write History, just read our schools text books; we have thought control, Rupert Murdoch and his media conglomerate; we have re education prisons, Guantanamo Bay; we have country's lobbing bombs into each others residential neighborhoods, Ilbombya's State Sponsored Assassination; we have secret courts, US and UK. The only act left in this play is the instillation of a Dictator. You will soon witness the coronation of Romney, our first Big Brother.
I'm a child of the 50s and I was taught that greed was a sin, not a commandment. I guess you can take all Hippies out of the 60s, but you can't take the 60s out of all Hippies!
With 1984 and Animal Farm as a bible and a compass, we are still domed. Remember we have passed the point of no return. Much like the man who jumped from a twenty story building and yelled HELP during his last sojourn to the pavement below.
Revolution is never the answer any more than war is. I learned they have a certain pattern of failure. O, people will rise up in arms over tyranny and oppression. A charismatic group of young-correct-minded-people will give fiery speeches denouncing capital punishment for disagreements in politics, religion or philosophy's. But soon, I think out of frustration or anger, they claim "The means justifies the end." And they immediately begin shooting people for disagreements in politics, religion or
philosophy's. You see the means never justifies the end. If you hear that statement made shoot the f----r immediately, or he will shoot you next. End of story! Ha ha ha
Instead of a revolution, I would much rather see a Great Awakening in America where all the good and decent people put a stop to the nonsense. I know it's a stretch of monumental proportions, but it can happen. Part of the problem is Obama and his ilk have put us on a slide towards socialism and economic ruin and there's too many people enjoying the ride.
The writers I read from the inner-war-years taught me that there is a difference between when a revolutionary claims the end justifies the means and when the government makes the claim. The means is our life and the end is our death. Who wants to live for death? The governments function is maintenance of shared, communal resources; as with electricity and water and medical and military and police and roads etc. The means is our compass. We ought to be in control of the needle.
When we allow someone else control over it, we lose control over our own destiny. I think when we live under the control of an oppressive government, we get the notion that it's all the governments fault, when it is actually ours for relinquishing control over its direction in the first place. The "endowment syndrome" sets in. We become addicted to welfare. It's a vicious downward spiral with no return.
I'm sure I've made many enemies this evening, but I care not what folks think of me. The truth is the truth. That's my story, and I'm sticking with it. This plays better with my friends in London. Maybe they are a bit more forgiving.
I'm moving to Lawrence, Kansas in the spring. California is in big time trouble. I know of no one interested in new...
The writers I read from the inner-war-years taught me that there is a difference between when a revolutionary claims the end justifies the means and when the government makes the claim. The means is our life and the end is our death. Who wants to live for death? The governments function is maintenance of shared, communal resources; as with electricity and water and medical and military and police and roads etc. The means is our compass. We ought to be in control of the needle.
When we allow someone else control over it, we lose control over our own destiny. I think when we live under the control of an oppressive government, we get the notion that it's all the governments fault, when it is actually ours for relinquishing control over its direction in the first place. The "endowment syndrome" sets in. We become addicted to welfare. It's a vicious downward spiral with no return.
I'm sure I've made many enemies this evening, but I care not what folks think of me. The truth is the truth. That's my story, and I'm sticking with it. This plays better with my friends in London. Maybe they are a bit more forgiving.
I'm moving to Lawrence, Kansas in the spring. California is in big time trouble. I know of no one interested in new taxes. I must wait until spring, when the Yellowstone snow melts. I'll stay until Mr. Ranger kicks me out. I do hope we can be friends. I believe in friendship but interesting friends are hard to find. I think I scare folks my own age. Sometime I scare myself.
Having utilities and such is fine as long as the free market prevails. It is only when government decided to regulate it with incompetence, over-regulation and heavy taxation do we see these and other enetrprises fail. Heck, most of the people who regulate have no clue how to run anything let alone a large enterprise. Thay can't even balance their own checkbooks.
You and I are close in perspective, but I would like to remain positive that there's always that chance a "bolt from the blue" will endow many with common sense and the ability to care for someone else besides themselves. It's a long shot, but it's still there.
One last thing: I would like to thank you for this exchange. It has been thought provoking and polite. There are many on SH who could learn from our example.
Just to support my assertion that the Constitution is worthless unless it is enforced (through checks and balances plus a healthy dose of public involvement), read the former Soviet Union's constitution. It actually sounds freer than ours, but we all know how free it was behind the Iron Curtain for Soviet citizens.
I find it a good sign common people (the Tea Party for one) are raising a stink about Obama's extra-constitutional acts, but the bums in Washington are doing next to nothing about it. Again, we MUST do what we can to stop all this crap. If we can't rally enough people to stand up for what is right, then we will all be like the proverbial frog in a pot of water.
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Twain said within his essays on racial bigotry, for instance, that it is necessary to work from the outside in, and never the opposite. It's too hot at the center. People are too set in there ways.
I normally don't share this much. Not all at once. It's too tiring. And I'm too old. I found a good movie at the library yesterday: The Sun Also Rises with Power, Gardner, Ferrer, Flynn, Albert and Greco. It's been in the DVD waiting all day. I love a good war movie and they don't come any better than this. Bye....