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Should U.S. Troops Be Used to Fight in Mexican Drug Wars?

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Tired of waiting for the government to just build the dang fence and unhappy with the deployment of troops sent to guard the U.S.-Mexico border, Texas Governor Rick Perry is ready to pull out bigger guns to deal with vicious Mexican drug gangs.

Perry, who will soon take over as the leader of the Republican Governors Association, told MSNBC on Thursday that it’s time to get real and deploy U.S. forces across the border in Mexico to combat drug violence he fears will spill over into his state.

"I think we have to use every aspect of law enforcement that we have including the military,” he said. “I think we have the same situation as we had in Colombia. Obviously, Mexico has to approve any type of assistance that we can give them … But the fact of the matter is these are people who are highly motivated with money, they are vicious, they are armed to the teeth, and I want to see them defeated."

Perry has long complained that the federal government is not doing enough to ease the ever-present threat of violence from Mexico and in August he announced the deployment of a squad of Texas Rangers (no, not the baseball kind) to the border to help beef up the federal presence.

President Obama sent more than 1,200 National guard troops to the U.S.-Mexico border last May in an effort to beef up security in the region, pairing the move with a request for an additional $500 million for border protection and law enforcement.

More than 28,000 people have died in drug-related violence in Mexico since 2006, with a handful of murders spilling over onto the U.S. side.

Despite the barrage of execution-style murders in and around the border region, The Texas Tribune reported in August that a poll of residents in border cities in California and Texas found that 87.5 percent felt safe as they drove and walked in their neighborhoods, with only 10 percent saying they did not.

Should the U.S. send troops to fight cartels in Mexico?

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  • AL Petpeve 2010/11/21 05:31:18
    AL
    +1
    WE need to keep track of all the scum bags that sell us out in this lame Duck and find out if their up for re-election come 2012 as well!
  • Petpeve AL 2010/11/21 18:05:54
    Petpeve
    +1
    Morning AL. Yes, friends and I are already doing that. When ever I write or call my reps. I always indicate that I'm fully aware of how they have voted on prior issues. Most just continue to take us for granted. But keep watching anyway.
  • AL Petpeve 2010/11/22 05:24:37
    AL
    +1
    Good work!
  • elijah Petpeve 2010/11/22 19:12:16
    elijah
    +1
    ike also said to bewaRE OF THE MILITARY CONGLEMERATE.
  • Petpeve elijah 2010/11/22 20:31:06
    Petpeve
    Afternoon elijah, yes, it's sad that we have to keep our eye's on everyone. Happy Thanksgiving to you and yours.
  • elijah Petpeve 2010/11/22 20:34:39
    elijah
    BE SAFE.
  • elijah 2010/11/19 21:56:29
    No
    elijah
    +1
    NO! SEND THE LILY LIVERED MILITIAS TO FIGHT THEM. THOSE CHUMPS ARE ARMING TO FIGHT A RACE WAR AGAINST BLACK PEOPLE WHO HAVE DONE NOTHING TO THEM. SEND THEIR SORRY BEHINDS TO FIGHT SOMEBODY WITH GUNS!
  • Petpeve elijah 2010/11/20 00:12:26
    Petpeve
    Race war against Black people. What are you talking about?
  • Lee Wacker Petpeve 2010/11/20 02:39:42
    Lee Wacker
    +1
    He thinks the National Guard has been sent out to kill the black people, even though it has been proved over and again that the blacks have begged for militia protection agains their own people's rioting! Watts--1992, for example! The folks living in Watts said that for a time, the children could even play out in the yard without danger of being shot!
    After the militia was removed, it was business as usual!
  • Petpeve Lee Wacker 2010/11/20 20:45:06
    Petpeve
    How sad is that? Wonder if he belongs to one of the left's extremist groups and that's the crap they are feeding him. Wouldn't surprise me, but I certainly hope not. Where is Watts?
  • fransway Petpeve 2010/11/20 23:12:32
  • elijah Lee Wacker 2010/11/20 21:49:25
    elijah
    what a propagandist you are trying to be; but i know that you know the truth. some of your compatriots here know damn well i'm not talking about the national guard and watts in 1992. strange that you forgot the national guard was called out to combat people like you, who stood in the way of blacks who just wanted freedom, justice and equality here during the "so called" civil rights era. people of your mindset never let a black man be happy or feel safe, and it wasn't just in the south either. you know the truth; but want to pretend that it's ancient. it "ain't". review you anals (newspapers, magazines, books of history, and records). people of your mindset are entrenced in america and embodied with pure evil for anything that is black. from the time my ancestors set foot on these soils, those of you mindset have shown the outright contempt and fake ass superiority that you feel you have for black people. stop trying to put violence, crime, and the like on us. those were your characteristics, and you taught them well, and had unlimited practice on blacks, jews, chinese, indians, japanese, arabs, and anybody else who showed skin color. the italians and iriish, and some jews worked around your evil because some had lighter skin. peddle you lies directly to your group; but when y...
    what a propagandist you are trying to be; but i know that you know the truth. some of your compatriots here know damn well i'm not talking about the national guard and watts in 1992. strange that you forgot the national guard was called out to combat people like you, who stood in the way of blacks who just wanted freedom, justice and equality here during the "so called" civil rights era. people of your mindset never let a black man be happy or feel safe, and it wasn't just in the south either. you know the truth; but want to pretend that it's ancient. it "ain't". review you anals (newspapers, magazines, books of history, and records). people of your mindset are entrenced in america and embodied with pure evil for anything that is black. from the time my ancestors set foot on these soils, those of you mindset have shown the outright contempt and fake ass superiority that you feel you have for black people. stop trying to put violence, crime, and the like on us. those were your characteristics, and you taught them well, and had unlimited practice on blacks, jews, chinese, indians, japanese, arabs, and anybody else who showed skin color. the italians and iriish, and some jews worked around your evil because some had lighter skin. peddle you lies directly to your group; but when you do; i'll be around. hey! don't try to use that "africans" sold you into slavery either. europeans did the same to eachother (before they realized they could do it to africans, based solely on skin color). they fought eachother like cats and dogs, enslaved, and conquered eachother whenever they could for melinia (sp). didn't know that did you? it's world history.
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  • elijah Petpeve 2010/11/20 21:27:44
    elijah
    just what i said; or haven't you been briefed?
  • Petpeve elijah 2010/11/21 03:15:21
    Petpeve
    Yes, I've been briefed. Don't try to pull that crap on all of us whities here. My frickin ancestor's died in that Civil War to free your ass**. So not all White people hate Black people. So yes, I'm quite aware of history. What I've also learned is in order to live a decent life you must put the past behind you. Learn from that experience (whether good or bad) and begin anew. If you continually live with that hate within you (for anyone) your life will be a living hell. I've had some not so nice things happen to me in my liftetime as well. You can decide to sink or to swim, and I chose to swim. There will always be Whites that hate Blacks and Blacks that hate Whites and neither you nor I can be held responsible for these individuals. What we can do is to teach our children (which I have done) to love and respect people (no matter what their color or how they are different) by looking within them at their character.
  • elijah Petpeve 2010/11/22 17:52:57
    elijah
    +1
    well if you've been briefed, act like it! i don't recall calling you "whities". it's whites of your mindset that that i refer to. you're the one that made reference to "watts", and the national guard, and how blacks begged them to come in. to hell with your ancestors that died in the "socalled" civil war! millions of my ancestors died prior to that, during that, and after that. so how aware of history are you? the past that people of your mindset are responsible for can only be put behind when absolute change comes, and not before. do you tell the jewish brothers to forget their past? you wouldn't dare. those of your mindset think that because we remember the past that we can't swim? if we can't swim, it's because those of your mindset keep the weights on our ankles. i have taught my children to be successful, loving, respectful,a dn protective; but i also teach them real history, and not the lies my teachers told me. you need to follow suit.
  • Petpeve elijah 2010/11/22 20:32:34
    Petpeve
    Yawn.... Happy Thanksgiving anyway.
  • elijah Petpeve 2010/11/22 20:36:07
    elijah
    BURP!! SAME TO YOU.
  • Philo-Publius 2010/11/19 21:45:01
    No
    Philo-Publius
    +1
    The same thing can be achieved through legalization of all drugs.

    Not to mention, this 'taking on Mexican drug cartels' will be a farce, like the entire War on Drugs has been for almost four decades... what the War on Drugs is, is a selective war, on selective cartels, and an internal mechanism to maintain product price stability and pipeline entrenchment via ongoing, low-level busts. That's right, people. The government is the biggest drug dealer there's ever been...

    (I have absolutely no evidence to back up this claim.)
  • Petpeve Philo-P... 2010/11/20 00:13:15
    Petpeve
    +1
    No evidence but certainly food for thought. You may have a point here.
  • Lee Wacker Petpeve 2010/11/20 02:42:54
    Lee Wacker
    +1
    He's making the same stupid argument that was presented to repeal prohibition! "If only alcohol could be readily obtained, there wouldn't be any bloodshed!" Pretty words, untrue words!
    Did the repeal of prohibition prevent alcoholism? No. Would legalizing drugs, taxing them, etc., bring about a change? I greatly doubt it. Look at what has been done to the tobacco industry for the past thirty to forty years! Has it reduced the use of tobacco? No. Just made it more expensive!
  • Petpeve Lee Wacker 2010/11/20 20:49:16
    Petpeve
    Yes, I understood his thought but I don't feel it's a far fetched idea. With having the most advanced Military in the world I really feel that if Uncle Sam were tired of this or not profitting from it something would have been done a long time ago. Did you see the History Channel presentation of how drugs/cigarettes were introduced into the populous? Very interesting as I had no idea.
  • fransway Petpeve 2010/11/20 23:19:04
  • Petpeve fransway 2010/11/21 03:24:42
    Petpeve
    No, not exactly. We just want the Fed. Govt. to enforce the laws that they've passed in reference to illegal immigration and border security. That would certainly be a start rather than waiting until issues get so out of hand that there would have to be a question such as this to have to respond to. I agree that it's pretty ignorant that our own Govt. doesn't enforce the very laws they've passed. That is hardly hypocrisy. And what exactly is a Teaggers?
  • fransway Petpeve 2010/11/21 19:00:53 (edited)
  • Petpeve fransway 2010/11/21 19:59:56
    Petpeve
    Just as I thought, only willing to come back with a response to my last sentence. No real conversation here.
  • Torchma... fransway 2010/11/22 14:27:49
    Torchmanner ~PWCM~JLA
    Liberals don't need to be photo shopped, their evil is all natural. liberal women vs conservative womenliberals photo shopped evil natural
  • insane1 2010/11/19 21:38:42
    No
    insane1
    +1
    Oops, at first I thought he meant to send them into Mexico to fight it, but once I actually read the article I learned what it was really about. Amazing how that helps, right?
    I agree, in fact I was just talking about this on Wednesday while watching border wars.
    Better yet why don't we just post a firing squad out there and shoot them all. The drugs and the illegals need to stay out, it seems this could be the only way to send the message to them.
  • Bear 2010/11/19 21:24:17
    Yes
    Bear
    +2
    makes a lot more sense than 50,000 troops still serving as targets in iraq
  • johnc Bear 2010/11/19 21:25:04
    johnc
    +1
    or Germany, or Korea, or Japan,
  • Bear johnc 2010/11/19 23:52:42
    Bear
    +2
    you got it......but our guys in Iraq are used to warzone activities.....
  • Petpeve Bear 2010/11/20 00:14:15
    Petpeve
    +1
    Does anyone "really" get used to war zone activities?
  • Bear Petpeve 2010/11/20 17:35:03
    Bear
    +1
    i think some do.....some in fact likely thrive on the ongoing adrenaline high that permeates combat zones......but you're right that getting used to war is not something we 'really' want to do
  • Petpeve Bear 2010/11/20 20:54:21
    Petpeve
    +1
    I do agree with you bear that there are those that thrive on the adrenaline rush of a combat zone. Those tend to go on to become Mercenaries or Black Ops. But the greater amount of soldiers I think never get over what they've been through based on the suicide statistics that are out there as a result of a war zone.
  • Lee Wacker Bear 2010/11/20 02:44:56
    Lee Wacker
    I say bring all the troops station overseas home! Somewhere in this mix, we Americans have the right to secure our borders and to be safe! But, don't depend on the white house! He doesn't even know what's he's doing half the time!
    Does he drink or do drugs? Sometimes he doesn't look as though he's all there!
  • Tom Trojan 2010/11/19 21:10:17 (edited)
    Yes
    Tom Trojan
    +2
    Hell Yes...... Lets do whatever it takes to regain control of our border and create a "safe zone" say 10 mile wide strip south of the border (like the DMZ in Korea) that if entered illegally will result in serious consequences...

    This is no longer a JOKE......
  • DrLaserfalcon 2010/11/19 21:05:26
    No
    DrLaserfalcon
    +1
    Oh, you mean the Drug War that has failed so miserably for 40 years that you folks wanna double down and intervene in Mexico? Have you learned nothing? The more we persecute drug gangs and kill low level dealers, the more the price of the drug goes up.

    Since the beginning of the drug war, drug purity has gone up, drug use has gone up, and the price has gone up. We are doing nothing but pouring money into the pockets of drug kingpins with this moronic strategy.

    I agree that US troops should be securing the US southern border, but at the same time we should be legalizing marijuana to eliminate it as a profit source for drug cartels. Easiest and most common sensical solution.
  • Crank_It_Up 2010/11/19 20:53:44
    No
    Crank_It_Up
    he's not serious, just starting his campaign early, and what better way to do it? Why not cash in on the efforts of fox news and rush limbaugh to turn the far right into a quivering mass of hysteria and panic.

    I can see it now, american soldiers shooting innocent mexicans because they can't identify who is good and who is bad... sound familiar? It's what we do best.
  • Eastexn25 Crank_I... 2010/11/19 21:13:03
    Eastexn25
    +2
    If you knew what you were talking about you would know that Perry has already won his election.
  • Crank_I... Eastexn25 2010/11/20 07:10:10
    Crank_It_Up
    not talking about the governor, I'm afraid he'll run for prez... try to keep up
  • Eastexn25 Crank_I... 2010/11/21 08:19:47
    Eastexn25
    He'll definitely be better than what we have now... But he's not interested in Washington.

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