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Should U.S. Olympians Have to Pay Taxes on Their Medals and Prize Winnings? (As of Now, They Do)

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Last week, Senator Marco Rubio (R-Fla.) introduced a bill that would exempt U.S. Olympic medal winners from paying federal taxes on their medals and prize money. "Athletes representing our nation overseas in the Olympics shouldn't have to worry about an extra tax bill waiting for them back at home," he said in a statement.

Under the current policy, Americans winning in London will add the value of their medals (around $650 for gold, $330 for silver, and $5 for bronze) and their prize winnings ($25,000 for gold, $15,000 for silver, and $10,000 for bronze) to their taxable income. At a 35% income tax rate, medal winners will end up owing the IRS around $8,750 for a gold, $5,250 for a silver, and $3,500 for a bronze.

Romney and a number of Congressional lawmakers from both sides of the aisle have jumped to support the measure. They, and many others, are appalled that these athletes who represent the United States are being penalized for their successes. However, others argue that Olympic medalists do not merit preferential treatment.

“The fact is that prize money from athletic victories is income, and there is no good reason for the government to treat that income differently than the income of all the non-Olympic athletes who earn analogous types of income,” wrote Conor Friedersdorf for The Atlantic. “Why should Olympic athletes be exempted from paying taxes on their prize money, but not professional golfers, or poker players, or winners of literary prizes, or folks who win the lottery?”

What do you think SodaHeads? Should U.S. Olympians have to pay taxes on their medals and prize winnings?

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  • Robshock 2012/08/05 22:43:24
    No
    Robshock
    +11
    They are going to be paying HEAVILY on money they get from endorsements. Why charge them for the medals and the honorarium?

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  • Adakin Valorem 2012/08/07 12:04:50 (edited)
    Yes
    Adakin Valorem
    What makes anyone think that they DO NOT pay taxes on their winnings? A successful athlete is no different than any other successful person. We already have a government that thinks everything YOU earn belongs to the Government already, so why should this be any different.

    Rubio, Romney "and a number of Congressional lawmakers from both sides of the aisle" have a tax system that allows them the ability to pick and choose who they want to reward and who they want to punish with our existing arbitrary complex tax system.

    But if you REALLY want a more fair tax system, then we need to shift the basis of taxation from EARNING MONEY over to SPENDING MONEY. Let people earn all they want to earn and only tax consumption. That way the individual... and not the government... chooses when, where and how much taxes the individual is willing to pay for the government they are paying for.

    What makes anyone think that they DO NOT pay taxes on their winnings? A successful athlete is no different than any other successful person. We already have a government that thinks everything YOU earn belongs to the Government already, so why should this be any different.

    Rubio, Romney "and a number of Congressional lawmakers from both sides of the aisle" have a tax system that allows them the ability to pick and choose who they want to reward and who they want to punish with our existing arbitrary complex tax system.

    But if you REALLY want a more fair tax system, then we need to shift the basis of taxation from EARNING MONEY over to SPENDING MONEY. Let people earn all they want to earn and only tax consumption. That way the individual... and not the government... chooses when, where and how much taxes the individual is willing to pay for the government they are paying for.

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  • C. C. R... Adakin ... 2012/08/07 13:01:26
    C. C. Rider
    I feel this idea may be worse. Now the rich would have so many loopholes they would never spend a dime toward this country. They would have all of their companies be tax free when purchasing. Like Churches.
  • Adakin ... C. C. R... 2012/08/07 21:55:01 (edited)
    Adakin Valorem
    CCR: "I feel this idea may be worse"

    Thanks for the comment, CCR, but I gotta ask...Worse than what?

    Worse than seizing a worker's earnings before she ever see one dime in take home pay?

    Worse than baring your personal information, your privacy, your identity to some unnamed bureaucrat...as to beg the IRS for some small portion of your money back every April 15th after effectively LOANING them your money for an entire year... at ZERO interest?

    Worse than having to prove your innocence to an agency that presumes you are guilty?

    Worse than having a tax system that keeps tens of billions of off shore profits parked in the Cayman Islands, or in Singapore or whereever people can invest their earnings without having to pay taxes TWICE on the same earnings?

    CCR: "Now the rich would have so many loopholes they would never spend a dime toward this country"

    You got that right, CCR. NOW, people like Romney, Gates, Buffett, Oprah and thousands of other wealthy people keep their offshore profits... well... OFF SHORE! Because the moment they try to repatriot their AFTER TAX profits and bring that investment capital home, the IRS meets them on the dock. So you are RIGHT... they never spend those earnings here, never INVEST that capital here. If a company was completely tax free,...

    CCR: "I feel this idea may be worse"

    Thanks for the comment, CCR, but I gotta ask...Worse than what?

    Worse than seizing a worker's earnings before she ever see one dime in take home pay?

    Worse than baring your personal information, your privacy, your identity to some unnamed bureaucrat...as to beg the IRS for some small portion of your money back every April 15th after effectively LOANING them your money for an entire year... at ZERO interest?

    Worse than having to prove your innocence to an agency that presumes you are guilty?

    Worse than having a tax system that keeps tens of billions of off shore profits parked in the Cayman Islands, or in Singapore or whereever people can invest their earnings without having to pay taxes TWICE on the same earnings?

    CCR: "Now the rich would have so many loopholes they would never spend a dime toward this country"

    You got that right, CCR. NOW, people like Romney, Gates, Buffett, Oprah and thousands of other wealthy people keep their offshore profits... well... OFF SHORE! Because the moment they try to repatriot their AFTER TAX profits and bring that investment capital home, the IRS meets them on the dock. So you are RIGHT... they never spend those earnings here, never INVEST that capital here. If a company was completely tax free, they could invest that capital in building new factories, because everything they build and sell globally, has NO EMBEDDED TAX component built into the production cost of ANY PRODUCT built in the U.S. This one fact would make U.S. Products very competitive in the global market. This one fact would create tens of thousands of new jobs as new start-up companies would open businesses while foriegn companies would build their next factory or plant right here in the world's tax haven.

    For more information about this existing bill that is already in Congress and has almst SEVEN DOZEN BIPARISAN COSPONSORS, click http://www.fairtax.org/site/P...
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  • C. C. R... Adakin ... 2012/08/07 21:57:25
    C. C. Rider
    Gates, Buffett and Oprah all pay the correct amount of taxes. So far just the cons take advantage of those taxes. But good luck with your idea.
  • Adakin ... C. C. R... 2012/08/07 22:12:27 (edited)
    Adakin Valorem
    "Gates, Buffett and Oprah all pay the correct amount of taxes."

    And you know that for a fact? Or is it that they just haven't been caught yet?
    How about Wesley Snipes? or Willie Nelson or the numerous other "rich" folks that go toe to toe with the "Success" police that punish those that are too successful in our country.

    How about YOU... wouldn't you like to see April 15 and just another beautiful spring day where "the cons can no longer take advantage" of the system"???
  • C. C. R... Adakin ... 2012/08/08 17:29:21
    C. C. Rider
    Honey, find a tax forum on here and go to town. This blog ain't it.
  • Adakin ... C. C. R... 2012/08/09 02:23:00 (edited)
    Adakin Valorem
    CC, I must have misread the topic header. I thought the question was about having a specific group of Americans be granted a discriminatory exemption from paying taxes on their earnings.

    Obviously this WAS a discussion of taxes... and if such a proposal was "fair" or not. I simply proposed an alternative that IS fair, and asked for comment.

    I'm sorry you were unable to fully grasp the topic of the discussion. Have a pleasant evening. AV
  • Herb Adakin ... 2012/08/07 23:51:23
    Herb
    +1
    they are doing it for their country, they should have special exemptions. how many years have they worked and trained and all the money spent to get there.
  • Adakin ... Herb 2012/08/08 02:37:50
    Adakin Valorem
    Herb, Herb, Herb... are you not paying taxes FOR YOUR COUNTRY?

    And how many years did you work to become an expert at YOUR job? How much money did you spend to get your training, your degree, your experiance?

    If you really wanna give these folks a break, pass the FairTax Bill that is in congress and let the tax payer choose when, where and how much taxes they want to pay... Giving government another reason to discriminate by playing one American off aginst another American is just... UN American!

    FREE THE SLAVES! Pass the FairTax bill (HR-25)
  • Mm Adakin ... 2012/08/10 07:30:40
  • C. C. Rider 2012/08/07 12:04:24
    No
    C. C. Rider
    I say no, but according to Ronald Reagan the worst President next to Bush, he wanted EVERYTHING taxed and passed a law making sure those things were taxed.
    THIS IS A 26 year old tax...It was made law when Republican Ronald Reagan was president. ... WHY NO OUT RAGE WHEN THE LAW WAS PASSED IN 1986. ..??

    Rubio is a fake and just as usual blowing hot air. Like all cons do. cartoons on ronald reagan and taxes
  • Adakin ... C. C. R... 2012/08/07 12:12:28 (edited)
    Adakin Valorem
    CCR, are you refering to the Tax Reform Act if 1986 that was originated and passed by the democrat Congress led by Speaker Tip O'Neal? As I'm sure you know... all bills having to do with taxes must be originated in the House of Reprentatives, where Speaker O'Neal must agree to proceed with passage.

    How does TRA'86...."TAX EVERYTHING"? Please explain.

    Also, please comment on my alternative suggestion just above your post. Thanks AV
  • C. C. R... Adakin ... 2012/08/07 12:58:56
    C. C. Rider
    Ronald Reagan was 100 percent for that tax. And he made sure it got passed. This is not a blame game, just a fact. Reagan tanked this country and the cons loved it.
  • Adakin ... C. C. R... 2012/08/07 22:02:12
    Adakin Valorem
    So to answer my question, you ARE referring to TRA'86, Right?

    The tax reform passed by a Bipartisan Congress and signed by the president?

    The tax reform that lowered the tax brackets for ALL wage earners with the biggest cut...over 50% (from 15% down to 7%)... for those earning the lowest wages?

    The tax reform that doubled tax revenues from less than $490 billion per year when RR was sworn in to almost $1 Trillion per year when he left office due to the increased economic activity, business growth and increased jobs?

    The tax reform that ELIMINATED thousands of complex loopholes enjoyed by the wealthy as they invested in tax schemes allowing them to buy sell and trade investment tax credits?

    That Tax Reform?
  • C. C. R... Adakin ... 2012/08/08 17:30:27
    C. C. Rider
    ARE you saying Reagan did not pass a tax that made them pay on their winning the gold? Cause he did my dear.
  • Adakin ... C. C. R... 2012/08/09 02:29:08 (edited)
    Adakin Valorem
    I agree with you, CC. Reagan reformed a highly complex tax code filled with loopholes and deductions that enabled the wealthest of society to reduce their tax liablilty from the 70% tax rate that it was when he first took office to the 28% that it was when he left office.

    What Reagan did was simply remove the complexity as the rich were already paying an effective rate of around 28% after spending vast sums on deductions and tax schemes that lowered their effective tax rate down to what TRA'86 mandated anyway. Yes, if you earn the gold, you pay tax on the gold. Reagain simply removed your deductions these folks used to claim while they were GOING for the gold.
  • william keegan 2012/08/07 07:23:58
    Yes
    william keegan
    +1
    According to Obama everyone should pay their "Fair Share" !!!!
  • Adakin ... william... 2012/08/08 02:51:01
    Adakin Valorem
    And yet he never tells us what "fair share" means! Why not simply allow people to pay their taxes when they CHOOSE to pay taxes? Simply shift the paradigm from taxing INCOME to taxing CONSUMPTION. That way, you pay the amount of tax that YOU CHOOSE to pay via your consumption choices. If you, me, Romney, Bill Gates, Warren Buffet and Oprah all buy the same $5 Big Mac fries & coke, we would all pay the same sales tax.

    And if we all buy the same $5 Million LearJet and $500,000 Rolls Royce... we would all pay the same sales tax.

    And if we all buy the same USED Toyota Corolla, or the same USED Chevy pick-up, we all would pay NO sales tax as HR-25 (the FairTax Bill in congress) exempts all used goods, all investments, all tuition payments and all 'business-to-business' transactions. Only consumption of NEW goods and services are subject to the tax...

    And we all take home our ENTIRE paycheck with no federal income or FICA tax removed before we see our earnings. If you want FAIR... that's Fair... http://www.fairtax.org/site/P...
  • william... Adakin ... 2012/08/08 22:28:29
    william keegan
    +1
    Of course, my original answer was "tongue in cheek"! And, I agree that the adoption of the current "Fair Tax" proposal, but only if it is accompanied with a concurrent repeal of the 16th Amendment, would be a great step ahead of the current tax system. And while we are repealing the 16th, the 17th should also be repealed. Then the country would be well on its way to becoming the country the founders had in mind in the 1780's.
  • Adakin ... william... 2012/08/09 02:32:08
    Adakin Valorem
    Bill, the current version of HR-25/S-13 has a clause that mandates the repeal of the 16th Amendment within 5 years of passage of the FairTax.

    If the 16th Am, is NOT repealed, then the FairTax automaticly sunsets and we revert back to the current tax code. It is in the bill NOW!

    I agree w/you on the 17th as well. Thanks! AV
  • Zippcodey 2012/08/07 07:00:11
    No
    Zippcodey
    No, I don't think Athletes of U.S.A. shall pay taxes on their medal winnings. They all work hard in practices everyday and achieve what they want while representing our nation.
  • Adakin ... Zippcodey 2012/08/08 02:53:31
    Adakin Valorem
    And how many years did you work to become an expert at YOUR job? How much money did you spend to get your training, your degree, your experiance?

    If you really wanna give these folks a break, pass the FairTax Bill that is in congress and let the tax payer choose when, where and how much taxes they want to pay...

    Giving government just another reason to discriminate against others by playing one American off aginst another American is just... UN American!
  • Zippcodey Adakin ... 2012/08/08 03:25:50
    Zippcodey
    Don't worry you will get your food stamps.
  • Adakin ... Zippcodey 2012/08/09 02:34:37
    Adakin Valorem
    Oh good, I was counting on getting them so I can sell them at a discount for cash to the 'urban outdoorsmen' that are in their tents in the "Occupy" camp downtown.
  • Zippcodey Adakin ... 2012/08/09 04:57:07
    Zippcodey
    Great many do that.
  • michael Zippcodey 2012/08/15 19:21:00 (edited)
    michael
    +2
    So the olympians are at war right. The only time a soldier dosent pay any tax is when he is in a combat zone. Kosovo, Afganastan and the like. I didnt see Phelps swim through mine fields to win a gold, the hurdles were not electrified, the high jump didnt have razor wire. If the people representing our nation every day have to pay taxes (unless at war) then so do the olympians.

    In the Army a private E-1 with less than 2 years service makes about $1,500 a month, thats close to $18,000 a year (before tax) a specialis E-4 with 2 or more years in makes $2046 a month or $24,552 a year (before tax) a Bronze medalist makes $10,000, a Silver $15,000, and a Gold $25,000.

    Most of the olympians that are going to take the money are going to make millions on endorsements so what is a few thousand from the winnings going to hurt. If you want to give them a break how about soldiers that put their lifes on the line everyday.
  • Zippcodey michael 2012/08/15 20:12:39
    Zippcodey
    What ever made you compare Olympians to the military for? There are not that many Olympians that win medals, they spend most of their lives going to practice and practicing daily. Now if they get get jobs pushing products then sure tax that money that they get for exchange of service, just like a job, but not their medals. Very few get those kind of jobs though. How many medals were won at the Olympics around 100? Whoopy, Obama spends Trillions so what's a couple bucks on the medals?
  • michael Zippcodey 2012/08/16 15:59:15
    michael
    Did you know that the medal isnt being taxed? It is the bonus check that they accept. They dont have to accept it. The reason I compared it to the military is because they are the only people I konw who dont get taxed and that is when they are in a war zone putting their lives on the line.
  • Zippcodey michael 2012/08/16 18:14:21
    Zippcodey
    Any money exchanged should be taxed just like having a job.
  • RevBH 2012/08/07 06:24:03
    No
    RevBH
    +2
    The medals are precious (or semi-precious) metals, but they're not intended to be used as currency. They shouldn't be treated as income any more than a cheap-ass trophy would.

    The money, on the other hand, is money. Maybe Rubio plans to have the medalists' taxes prepared by Romney's tax peeps during Olympic years.
  • wildcat 2012/08/07 06:00:47
    Yes
    wildcat
    I go to the casino and win $1million, do I pay taxes on that? I win a $3million lottery, do I pay taxis on that.
  • RevBH wildcat 2012/08/07 06:26:40
    RevBH
    +2
    Yes, and yes. (Do you mean "taxes," not "taxis"? You have to pay for those, too.)
  • wildcat RevBH 2012/08/11 03:53:18
    wildcat
    I do mean taxes
  • RevBH wildcat 2012/08/16 19:53:38
    RevBH
    +1
    I figured....wishing you luck at the casino & in the lottery. If you drink, take a tax home. Then call Romney's acountant about the taxis.
  • strawberry 2012/08/07 05:48:43
    No
    strawberry
    +2
    It is a disgrace to tax Olympians for their Medals. It is bad enough U.S. Govt. does not financially help support them as Russia and China including other Countries financially support their Olympians.
  • michael strawberry 2012/08/15 19:35:35 (edited)
    michael
    +2
    How many of their olympians are amatures and intend to go to an American college in the futer and participate in the events they went to the olympics for? If the government did finance the olympic team. The 17 year old that has one year of high school before she goes to college would not be able to participate in her colleges swimming events. That is why the government doesnt get involved and that is why it is a bonus check, that way the people that want to stay amatures can decline the money.
  • freebirdie 2012/08/07 05:45:35
    Yes
    freebirdie
    Wish there was another choice like 'other'.

    I don't believe they should pay any taxes on their medals but ay endorsements or other prize money--yes. They pursued their field just like a doctor did or a farmer--and they all have to pay taxes. The difference is those groups are not competing in an international competition to be the best in their fields. Why not let them have the gift of the medal? It was by shear luck, chance, or blessing they received it in the first place. Let's honor success somewhere!!!!
  • Miles 2012/08/07 04:18:57
    No
    Miles
    as nation we do very little to support our athletes...if I recall correctly its the major portion of support money comes from corporations...
  • Zippcodey Miles 2012/08/07 07:02:54
    Zippcodey
    Actually GM supports English Soccer instead in support for our country. If you don't believe it, Just google it.
  • debrarae 2012/08/07 03:45:04
    No
    debrarae
    +1
    And yet they do. It's not fair to them. Not all the Olympians had parents, and friends to help them make the trip. Many sacrificed in order to compete using their own income to do so. And now they have to pay, per medal they win.

    Since Phelps won over 20 medals now, I wonder how much he had to pay in taxes

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