Should they stay or should they go?

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Should they stay or should they go?

by Gracie-NS-PC my ass! Posted October 18, 2008 21:39:35

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I have some rentals and I have a couple that has rented from me for over a year now. They have paid their rent on time once. Sometimes they just scrape along a little at a time. We have been very patient with them. One time they couldn't pay all of their rent because of a death in the family (they have had so many deaths I don't think there is anyone left to die). We went over to mow and they were in the yard grilling a bunch of steaks. Now, he has lost his job and she lost hers. They sold some furniture and paid us $300. They are a month a half behind. Today I go by there unexpectedly and they are having fios (cable and internet) installed. He came running out telling me his father is paying for it because he knew he was caught. I told him he better get some money together and get it fast. Do you think I should make them go?

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+4 raves ArmyMason October 19, 2008 01:17:38

Answered: I think you should make them go because.....
Business is business. You are there to make money not play mister nice guy. You held your end of the contract, its there turn to hold there end or get out. Just hope they don't trash it before they leave.
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WinBro777JOT"Flee!Wrath2Come!" January 01, 2009 20:38:47 (edited)

Answered: I think you should make them go because.....
...Enough is Enough! Hmmm, Eight is Enough (of course you apparently gave them more months than that!)

However, I suggest you make it easy on yourself (while insuring that they really are off the property at the same time.) Just make a surprise inspection at night while they are asleep (since most rental contracts I've ever signed have some inspection clause at the landlord's discretion...at least as I remember it,) and take enough rope to tie up both the occupants together.

Then DO it! Tie them up, buckle them in the backseat of the car (Give 'em rooffie's if you need to in order to keep them sleeping, and drive out to a Kansas hospital...or is THAT in Missouri? I guess you'll have to "Show Me!")

When you get there, tell one of the orderlies, "I am fed-up with these 'young-uns.' I am done with them! See to it that they get a good home, if you can, but if they are given to a bad home,...SOL! It's just what they deserve!"

(Even though I'm not at all serious about the previous, I hope that I gave you a most excellent laugh,...and...like...an excellent adventure with Bill & Ted! Dude!) :}
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NPC November 25, 2008 23:32:17

Answered: I think you should let them stay because....
there are deadbeats !
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Whitese7en "by JESUS blood ... November 25, 2008 17:57:54

Answered: I think you should make them go because.....
Yes, they should go because they need to accept the consequences of their irresponsibility. In the long run, it will be good for them, that is if they choose to learn from their mistakes.
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Gracie-... to Whitese... November 25, 2008 23:18:09

They paid up but are now late again. They are going for sure, I'm over it!
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Suzie November 17, 2008 23:50:10

Answered: I think you should make them go because.....
I have really mixed feelings answering this one. I'll tell you why. We lost our house in May due to this economy and compounded by my husband not working. Thank God all our children are grown and gone. So it really wasn't a hardship on us Anyway...we are renting now. The last couple of month have been really tuff . We are not up on our feet and have been late once. We no longer go out to eat, can't tell you when the last time we went out....have cut out all extra spending. No more new clothes, shoes get resoled at the shoe repair. Use our cell phones and have no landline. Basic cable no pay channels. I am the only one working and working 3 jobs. He gets a job here and there, and things are starting to pick up for him. We have been really struggling to make ends meet. We have done so many different things to survive and get the rent in on time. But your people sound to be outright lying to you. I would probably give them their walking papers. And I would never use the excuse of a family member passing. That will come back to really bite them in the A**.
Gracie-... to Suzie November 17, 2008 23:53:56

Thanks Suzie, you will be relieved to know that they did finally pay the rent and catch up. They called me yesterday and said that the rent for this month due on the 15th would be paid on the 21st. How's that for improvement? I told them ok. That's all I wanted was the truth and an effort to pay the rent first. LOL
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BrotherGump November 14, 2008 04:10:06

Answered: I think you should make them go because.....
They are crooks.
Nuff said!
Provided what you say is true.
I would start the long hard process of eviction to cut your loses

OR..............................

Sell them your house......threaten to foreclose on them and wait for a bailout!
Gracie-... to Brother... November 14, 2008 17:28:48

Thanks BrotherGump, apparently they got some welfare bailout already and caught up on their rent. There's always next month though!
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max October 19, 2008 21:29:12

Answered: None of the above
I think you are being fair. They have agreed to pay you and they have not. I would probably make them go if I did not at least see an effort on thier part to pay something. I ate a bunch of Ramen Noodles when I was a young renter...lol.
Gracie-... to max October 19, 2008 21:41:38

I think they have been eating better than Ramen Noodles. I ate tuna fish, it was cheaper then. I still can hardly stand it.
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max to Gracie-... October 19, 2008 21:44:32

GRACIE....I think we finally agree on something...thats a good thing. I still like the Ramen Noodles, now I add shrimp and scallops...it's good. But, fair is fair...they deserve to get what they were promised.
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Gracie-... to max October 19, 2008 21:50:13

I don't think of it as disagreeing Max, I think we're just a work in progress. Did you see that person who called us Floridians whiners and unaware of the rest of the country on that last question. We'll just have to invite him over next time we have a hurricane.
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max to Gracie-... October 19, 2008 21:53:35

We have them here? I thought they only hit other states...we don't bitch about them, do we?
Gracie-... to max October 19, 2008 22:01:46

I'm certainly not going to wait for FEMA to come save me. I now have a generator with a separate box on my house, shutters, and a plan. I have spent thousands, we will never have another hurricane here again. We did have a power outage last week, a transformer blew, so I did get to use the generator. It was a good thing to try out. My friend lives in Houston, she was without power for 16 days and she just sucked it up, didn't even blame Bush.
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max to Gracie-... October 19, 2008 23:06:28

I blame the Mayor and Governor for the Katrina tragedy...As for us here, I have been here my whole life ( in Florida) East Coast until I have 24,here for the past 18 years...We buy our water and canned good, get our batteries, board up or what-ever...then I go to work through the storm ( I have to)...My partner works after the storm...it is just how Floridians are about hurricanes...protect oursleves.
Gracie-... to max October 19, 2008 23:39:27

See, we do agree.
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Rico October 19, 2008 20:57:27

Answered: I think you should make them go because.....
Everyone falls on hard times, and sometimes "when it rains it pours", but.....these people have been BLATANTLY lying to you. That shows they don't respect you. Don't put yourself thru the aggravation. And if you start having second thoughts...just think about all the crap they'll leave you to clean up when they leave.
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Joker27 October 19, 2008 20:09:48

Answered: I think you should make them go because.....
When they signed the papers or whatever, they agreed to pay the rent ON TIME. Kick 'em to the curb
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hempy27 October 19, 2008 20:07:50

Answered: I think you should make them go because.....
You are feeling like they are using you and nothing is more right than your gut feeling. It sounds as if you have given them ample opportunities to mend their situation, and they are only going to behave in a manner you allow.
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SaudiPete October 19, 2008 19:53:23

Answered: I think you should make them go because.....
They are deadbeats!
But as a landlord, I would like to see you take them to court on this! Because if there is a paper trail, when they come looking at my house, and I check them out on courts.com I can find that they are deadbeats!!! Help yourselves, but help out the rest of us too!
I just got rid of two dead beats that did over $11,000 in damages to my mothers home in just less than 5 months!
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MaMaJ October 19, 2008 19:05:41

Answered: I think you should make them go because.....
Send them to their family to take care of them until they can get it together. WEE my house is so full I can't fit anymore in it. Cost of living brought them all home . Thanks Bush
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Gracie-... to MaMaJ October 19, 2008 19:08:32

Thank the housing collapse to Barney Frank and Chris Dodd, oh and Franklin Raines and on and on. Things were really good until two years ago. What happened then?
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1tenthAngel October 19, 2008 18:55:48 (edited)

Answered: I think you should make them go because.....
Time to tell them bye, bye
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SouthernB October 19, 2008 18:16:50

Answered: I think you should make them go because.....
...they're never going to be reliable in paying their rent. They have established a pattern that is very unlikely to break. But tell them to go the right way:

(1) Write them a notice and have it sent by certified mail...
(2) Demand immediate payment for all due bills...
(2b) Seek an eviction order if they do not do this.
(3) Inform them that on the next instance of the rent being late by X days (you decide what's reasonable) that they will be evicted.
(4) Seek an eviction order the first time that they are late beyond X days.
(5) Thoroughly research the financial and renting history of the next occupants of your space.

(3) Inform them
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Gracie-... to SouthernB October 19, 2008 18:39:05

Thanks southernb I have already sent them a certified notice. If they don't have all of the money this week they have to go. I was trying to work with them but the cable really ticked me off.
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Yukkione "In Science We Trust" October 19, 2008 18:05:19

Answered: I think you should make them go because.....
The repeated abuse of their contract with you is all you need. They have misused your good intentions and should be given notice.
hiloecho October 19, 2008 17:18:43

Answered: I think you should let them stay because....
If you have to ask for advice here which may sway your intentions then you are
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Gracie-... to hiloecho October 19, 2008 17:20:21

It was just for fun. I was just trying to get some liberal to feel sorry for them and send them money and then I could get mine. Although I did know that liberals only talk about being generous they aren't really. So let me know if you want the address to send the check..
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DEP October 19, 2008 17:17:11

Answered: I think you should make them go because.....
Renting a home is a business - you need to pay your bills and they need to pay theirs. Do you think if you didn't pay your mortgage the bank would just feel sorry for you and let you stay? It seems to me your tenants are from the Entitlement mind-set and you're allowing yourselves to be duped!
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Gracie-... to DEP October 19, 2008 17:18:45

I told them I have to pay the bills and I pay my bills on time. They are just lazy. They look like the picture I posted only a little worse.
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WhatsHerFace October 19, 2008 16:46:20

Answered: I think you should make them go because.....
I think they should go. They should have had their father pay for their rent instead of a luxury like cable. Chances are they will just fall farther behind and when you do finely evict them they will owe way more than a month and a half. And will probably leave the place trashed costing you even more for repairs.
Give them a "pay up or get out notice" and watch how fast they come up with the money.
Gracie-... to WhatsHe... October 19, 2008 17:03:17

I did but I didn't enforce it but I have it on record with the certified. I knew they weren't professionals when they actually went to the post office and signed for the letter. Thanks.
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chiglet - Daedric Sigil Mag... October 19, 2008 16:38:50

Answered: I think you should make them go because.....
They are playing you for a fool
Gracie-... to chiglet... October 19, 2008 17:03:39

I know I am a really nice sucker. At least I have given them many chances.
WhatsHe... to Gracie-... October 19, 2008 17:18:41

Don't feel bad, I would be the same way, especially if they have children. Having rental property isn't what it used to be. There are way too many people in the world that don't understand what it means to work hard in this life.
I would suggest that next time you screen carefully before signing and agreement with anyone.
Get references and follow up with phone calls and don't take any crap.
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Kid Charlemagne October 19, 2008 16:17:04 (edited)

Answered: I think you should make them go because.....
Give 'em an inch and they'll take a yard. You don't need that kind of stress, and it'll only get worse and become more awkward to resolve. Sounds to me like they're either really selfish and deliberately taking advantage of your good nature, or they have some kind of expensive vice that's consuming most of whatever money they can get their hands on. GIVE 'EM THE BOOT!
Gracie-... to Kid Cha... October 19, 2008 16:18:11

I will give them the boot, thanks!
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tomem October 19, 2008 15:34:35

Answered: I think you should make them go because.....
If they can buy steaks, have cable and internet, then they can pay the rent. If they don't, then out they go. Personal responsibility is what counts.
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Gracie-... to tomem October 19, 2008 15:37:57

I didn't think of it before but maybe I could give them a rent discount if they vote McCain/Palin. Kind of like my own mini ACORN?
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MS October 19, 2008 14:22:20

Answered: I think you should make them go because.....
People like this are pros at this and have probably lived like this their entire lives like this.