Should There Be Backlash for Anti-Semitic Comments?

There are anti-Semitic elements within the Tea Party. One of them is Grover Norquist.

CPAC Tea Party Launch Event Hosted By Anti-Semitic, Israel-Hating, Tax-Defrauding Islamic Terrorist Buddy

By Debbie Schlussel

The Tea Party activists, who claim they are anti-establishment, are actually very establishment, after all.  So establishment that they’ve embraced the same anti-Semitic, Israel-hating, Islamo-panderers that the conservative movement has embraced.  No, I’m not talking about Sarah Palin telling FOX News’ Chris Wallace that she takes the advice of Hitler-fan Pat Buchanan’s syndicated columns (she did say that).

I’m talking about Grover Norquist,  whose Americans for Tax Reform is a major sponsor of the Tea Party launch event, Tea Party Patriots’ manifesto, at today’s start of CPAC (the Conservative Political Action Conference).  Norquist bragged to Politico that he is behind the tea party activists’ presence at CPAC.

Norquist, a founder and board member of the Islamic Institute (which operated out of his offices), was on the take from Gulf state emirates and laundered money for his buddy Jack Abramoff.  At Islamic Institute (which operated out of Abramoff’s Americans for Tax Reform offices), he employed Khalid Saffuri, an admitted funder of “the martyrs”–he adopted HAMAS homicide bombers’ families and funded them.  And Norquist and Islamic Institute accepted cash from several “charities” which laundered money for the Saudi government to Al-Qaeda. Norquist got a top Bush White House job for Suhail Khan, whose father, Mahboob Khan, twice brought Al-Qaeda biggie Ayman Al-Zawahiri into the country to raise money for Al-Qaeda at the elder Khan’s mosque. The younger Khan proceeded to invite extremist Muslim clerics, such as one who described Jews as a “dirty little tribe,” to hang out with President Bush.

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Sue, you are a moron. Reading your post is like watching Schindler's list. Its so painful.

At 1:20 he explicitly says "Jews" and then goes on to talk about "them", aka "Jews".

Because you are not worth my time, but I feel like I need to explain to you what is actually going on (even though you will never admit that you are wrong and will continue to live in your text-book bubble that does not reflect real life).

no, he actually specifically stated "Jews", several times actually. You should watch the video.
"For the Jews I would say see what could happen to you when the muslims wake up"
"the holocaust is a hoax"
"the jews have taken over this country by immoral and devious means"
"the tentacles of the devil... who resides in tel-aviv"
If the above comments are not anti-Semitic and are not specifically targeting Jews, then I dont know what is.
So now we took a look at what he said. These comments are clearly anti-Semitic. There is no arguing that. Have fun trying anyway, because I know you will.

Is a Jew naturally a Zionist? Yes, a Jew naturally is a Zionist. Do you know what a Zionist is, and where Zionism came from? Zion is a term used to refer to Judea and Samaria, but more specifically Jerusalem. The Torah commands the Jews to return to Zion. Unless the Jew in question rejects the Torah, he is ultimately a Zionist. Even the Reform movement of Judaism, which actually does reject the Torah, are strongly Zionist. STRONGLY Zionist. The reform movement's reasoning for this is that Zionism is the one modern element that can be held on to from the Torah that does not conflict with every day life (such as keeping kosher or observing the Sabbath does conflict with modern day life, and are therefore not kept close to the reform religious experience as Zionism is).
Judaism is Zionism. Anyone who says differently does not understand Judaism, and if they are Jewish he/she does not understand his/her own religion.

There is one particular sect of ultra-orthodox Jews that do not support Zionism as of yet (there is another sect of ultra-orthodox who does support zionism, they are the ones in the settlements near hevron). They claim that the jews cannot return to israel until the messiah returns. However, when the Messiah does return, the Jews will have to take back their homeland which will stretch from the Tigris river to the Nile river. So, even though those jews do not want israel to be established now, they do want an israel in the future when the messiah returns. To take their side is to take the side of your own destruction, because when the messiah returns these jews will stop at nothing to return ALL of the land between those two rivers to the state of Israel. I suggest that you do not support those fanatics, they are obviously insane.

It is apparent that you do not understand what Zionism is. It is apparent that you do not understand the true values and motives of the people who you support. It is you who must divulge into further research on what exactly it is you are promoting.

ur full of contradictions, and yet I argue like an 8 year old?
Your first quote: "The professor said nothing about being Jewish."
And now: " he says that Jews should wake up and"
so he did say jews, did he not? And then he constantly used the word "them" and "they" to refer to "jews". Just watch the video. I shouldnt have to defend myself.

And now, once again, you are misrepresenting what Zionism is.
"Not all Jews think it was such a great idea to force the inhabitants out when Israel became a state"
that was not the purpose of Zionism. If you look at the famous Zionist thinkers of the time including Rabbi Kook, Herzl, Pinsker, Ahad Ha-Am, Gordon, etc. NOT A SINGLE ONE said that the arabs have to be kicked out. Not a single one. On the contrary, they said that the Jews have to work with the Arabs. And then some of them said that the Jews need to work with the Arabs to get rid of imperialistic tendencies by the British. The one thing that every zionist thinker has in common (which their philosophies are reflective of the true meaning and intent of Zionism) is that not one of them proposed to get rid of the Arabs. In fact, all of them addressed the Arabs living there, and they proposed that the Jews work with them.
You do not know anything about Zionism. The intent was not to kick out the Arabs. If you know the history, which you obviously do not, you would know about a movement called "Pan-Arabasim", which promoted a "muslim arab only" ideology in the Middle East. Using this ideology, the Arabs kicked out the memons, the Druze, the Bahai, the Kurds, the Assyrians, etc. Jews were on their list also, but the Jews seemed to be tricky to deal with because for the most part they had the support of Britain. Because of this, the Arabs had a plan to kick the Jews out, but this required the support of Arabs on the ground in Palestine. So the Arab leaders used the concept of "brotherhood" and "fraternity" to get the fellahin to rise up against the Jews through riots and make them so fearful that they will leave on their own. This worked in 1929 and 1936, but then backfired in 1948. In 1948, the fellahin ran away from Palestine instead of rising up and fighting against the Jews. Golda Meir, a Zionist, PLEADED for the Arabs to stay. They did not. Some of them did, and those are the current Israeli Arabs that are found today in Israel's society including the Israeli government.

" most people I have met who call themselves Jews in the United States are not zionists, especially the younger people"
Then those people do not understand what their religion truly means. However, I can assure you that the forwarding ideologues of the 3 sects of Judaism, Reform, Conservative and Orthodox, all strongly support the State of Israel. And support for the State of Israel is in actuality and in all respects, Zionism.

" Most Israelis I meet, as a person who lives and travels frequently in the region, want peace with Palestine and have varying degrees of blame for the current state of affairs for Hamas and the PLO. "

this is what you, and most people confuse. You can be in support of the state of Israel, but still be critical of its policies. ISRAELIS ARE THE BIGGEST CRITICS OF ISRAEL. However, they all still support the existence of Israel, and they do not support the attempt made by terrorist groups to dismantle and destroy Israel through genocidal means. Israel is a democracy, and no democracy is absolutely perfect, including Israel. But for some reason because Israel is the only jewish state in the world, people hold Israel to such a high standard that is nearly impossible to reach, and that other countries such as the US and UK would not care about acheiving. Do you think the UK holds back when it comes to terrorists in Ireland? Do you the US would hold back if it came to terrorists in Mexico? Only Israel is told to hold back. This is a double standard that is usually found to be promoted by thoughts of anti-Semitism. However, seeing that Israel is indeed a democracy, it is only natural and it is expected that people criticize the state. HOWEVER I and I'm sure the Israelis that you claim that you speak with, will not tolerate lies perpetuated by those who seek israel's destruction. The point of Zionism is not to kick out Arabs. The people in Israel who you speak with I am sure have had Arabs in their high school classes. When i went to elementary school in Israel, a good 1/4 of my class was Arabs. To say that it is a Zionist plot to destroy arab culture and the arab way of life while committing genocide against them is preposterous, ridiculous, and should not be tolerated in any form of rhetoric when talking about issues concerning Israel or the middle east.

"The purpose of Zionism in theory was not carried out in practice."

Proof? I have counter evidence called the Hadassah Hospital in Juersalem 1913. And I have more counter evidence with Mayor Shukri of Haifa between 1927 and 1940. Now do you have proof to assert your statements, or are you just saying things out of your ass to pretend that you have expertise on a subject that you clearly do not?

"In practice, the local people were forced out of their homes, sometimes by an army, sometimes by fear."

Fear? Fear of what? The only fear inflicted upon the Arabs was because of the Voice of Palestine. Golda Meir shows that in her autobiography and memoirs, where she pleaded with the Arabs not to run away from Haifa because of threats made by the effendi to the fellahin. Once again, you have no idea what you are talking about. Where did Zionists FORCE people out of their homes? W/ out facts or events you have nothing. Your argument and propositions are based off of any myth that you have heard in high school from teachers who would be discredited in less than a second on a true academic field. Save your nonsense for those who are not as experienced and well versed as I am.
You have no examples to back up this statement, therefore it is null and void.

" As I can distinguish between Jews and Israel and Zionists and Israelis."

You cannot distinguish it because there is no difference. How about you LISTEN and LEARN. All Jews who claim that they are Jews, are indeed Zionists. The ones in Israel are not even in question of this principle. If they were not Zionists then they would not live in Israel.
Once again, the point of Zionism is not to displace people. That is not even the cause of the displacement. The cause of the displacement of the Arabs is entirely due to a failed genocide attempt by the Arabs, and the unwillingness for the Arabs to help their displaced brethren (the reason for the collapse of Pan Arabism). And if tiny Israel can absorb 800,000 displaced Jews from 22 Islamic Nations, then I'm sure 22 Islamic nations, every single one of which is larger than Israel, will have no problem absorbing a mere 500,000 displaced Arabs.

"This guy -- the professor, is making some distinctions as well."

No he isnt. He equates the term "jew" with "zionism" and even uses them interchangeably. Watch the video. Once again, you are making an ass out of yourself. you do not even know what you are talking about or what you are saying.

" it was hamrful and of most countries in the region are not open to religions other than the 3 Arbrahamic religions"

Wrong again. They are not tolerant of any religion. They are not tolerant of Jews, which is why there was a mass exodus of Jews from the 22 Islamic nations for 10 years after the creation of Israel. There are not christians either in these nations because they throw them all out, or kill them. The only nation with a prominent Christian population in the middle east besides Israel is Lebanon, where christians are regularly slaughtered (Listen to Brigitte Gabriel's story).

" This professor can say whatever he wants. He's a private citizen representing no one but himself. He is not representing any news network of any kind. If he were, he would be fired."

WRONG AGAIN. You cannot incite hate and terror. He said "dismantle Israel by any means necessary". That is a direct quote from the video. That incites violence and terror against Israel. You can say what you want as long as you do not threaten the existence of others or incite hate and violence. He was inciting hate and violence. I dont give a rats ass about whether or not he should be fired. But he should be brought up on similar charges to what some people were brought up on during the Obama election for merely asking for a birth certificate.

The proof that zionism was different in theory than in practice is in the words of Golda Meier (the theory), and the actions of the many Jewish settlers that came in to take over what is now Israel. They were not all as peaceful and loving as she may have been. Hence the fear.

Zionism did cause displacement, any way you look at it. Muslim countries have other religions. Egypt has a large Christian population, Lebananon, Jordan, Morocco, all have Christian popoulations. The Jews were pretty much kicked out in the sixties along with the foreigners in part of the switch to align with the socialist states and try the Pan-Arabism thing. It didnt' work, by the way, not because the nations won't absorb Palestinians (though many do not), but because the nations in the region are territorial and no one would give up sovereignty for the group.

This may surprise you, but a lot of Amerian Jews live and work in the Middle East in majority Muslim countries. They are generally not Zionists. They have no desire to go settle in Israel and believe there should be a Palestinian state. Since there already is a state of Israel, most people (Jewish and non-Jewish) support its continuing as a state. That does not mean they support settlements, return of the biblical territory, or anything else that can be called modern day zionism. Just because you don't want to obliterate the state of Israel that exists, doesn't make you a zionist.

As for hateful free speech, people do it all the time. Look at the Westfield Baptist Church, and the abortion clinic protestors who eventually lead to a bombing or a murder, the KKK and other white supremecists. The US cannot worry about every crackpot that gets out there and speaks for or against some other group or country. The US allows free speech, even by horrible people.