And the argument was made quite plain...by a Doctor who should know, Dr. C.L. Gray, MD.
Because it's more than just "healthcare" that's at stake.
The Battle for America’s Soul
By C.L. Gray, MD
A review and commentary
If one were tempted to write a book that accurately captured the tug of war our country is currently undergoing, they would find that someone has already done their work for them.
Framed in the current healthcare debate, Dr. Gray pits the great thinkers against each other in a duel of world views that is playing out in our society even today. From Hippocrates and Plato to Jean-Jacques Rousseau and Friedrich Nietzsche, all the important titans of philosophical thought are represented. And at the very heart of their debate lay a central issue; who has the power to make decisions that affect our lives, the individual or the state?
By defining what shaped Hippocrates’ and Plato’s world views in the field of healthcare, Dr. Gray lays out the case that this is a very old argument taken into the present day and that ultimate authority for our world view depends greatly on the our foundation of truth. Whether it be sacred or secular in origin, both make their cases clear; where Hippocratic-thinkers place a premium on human life—at both ends of the life cycle—the P...
Because it's more than just "healthcare" that's at stake.
The Battle for America’s Soul
By C.L. Gray, MD
A review and commentary
If one were tempted to write a book that accurately captured the tug of war our country is currently undergoing, they would find that someone has already done their work for them.
Framed in the current healthcare debate, Dr. Gray pits the great thinkers against each other in a duel of world views that is playing out in our society even today. From Hippocrates and Plato to Jean-Jacques Rousseau and Friedrich Nietzsche, all the important titans of philosophical thought are represented. And at the very heart of their debate lay a central issue; who has the power to make decisions that affect our lives, the individual or the state?
By defining what shaped Hippocrates’ and Plato’s world views in the field of healthcare, Dr. Gray lays out the case that this is a very old argument taken into the present day and that ultimate authority for our world view depends greatly on the our foundation of truth. Whether it be sacred or secular in origin, both make their cases clear; where Hippocratic-thinkers place a premium on human life—at both ends of the life cycle—the P...
And the argument was made quite plain...by a Doctor who should know, Dr. C.L. Gray, MD.
Because it's more than just "healthcare" that's at stake.
The Battle for America’s Soul
By C.L. Gray, MD
A review and commentary
If one were tempted to write a book that accurately captured the tug of war our country is currently undergoing, they would find that someone has already done their work for them.
Framed in the current healthcare debate, Dr. Gray pits the great thinkers against each other in a duel of world views that is playing out in our society even today. From Hippocrates and Plato to Jean-Jacques Rousseau and Friedrich Nietzsche, all the important titans of philosophical thought are represented. And at the very heart of their debate lay a central issue; who has the power to make decisions that affect our lives, the individual or the state?
By defining what shaped Hippocrates’ and Plato’s world views in the field of healthcare, Dr. Gray lays out the case that this is a very old argument taken into the present day and that ultimate authority for our world view depends greatly on the our foundation of truth. Whether it be sacred or secular in origin, both make their cases clear; where Hippocratic-thinkers place a premium on human life—at both ends of the life cycle—the Platonian-thinkers consider life at the earliest and latest stages as a burden to the state. To make this an easier decision for the state, the state simply does away with the concept of God. This is a recurring theme throughout the book.
Each chapter’s presentation is thoroughly researched, painstakingly discussed and individually end-noted, yet with straightforward writing that makes for an enjoyable yet thought-provoking read.
Before you take up the banner on behalf of a particular side, it may be instructive to understand the genesis from which world view you are arguing, Hippocrates or Plato?
The world view of “Hippocrates – 1) Accepted the concept of a fixed Truth, 2) believed in the intrinsic value of human life, 3) thought medicine should serve (the) well being of the patient, 4) rejected infanticide and euthanasia, 5) the common man could appeal to a higher moral code.
The world view of “Plato – 1) Rejected the concept of a fixed Truth, 2) believed the philosopher king should determine the value of human life, 3) thought medicine should serve (the) welfare of the State, 4) accepted infanticide and euthanasia, 5) The State could do as it wished.”
These arguments continue to play out on the societal stage today. The question is, which one stands more closely with the founding principles of freedom and which one stands for the omniscience of the State?
“Government benevolence under socialism sounds so noble when first introduced. The ruling elite use sweet words of compassion to win the public’s trust, even as they secure power for themselves. However, contempt for the common man lies underneath this apparent concern.”
C. L. Gray, MD, The Battle for America’s Soul, (Hickory, NC: Eventide Publishing, 2011), p. 63.
C. L. Gray, MD, The Battle for America’s Soul, (Hickory, NC: Eventide Publishing, 2011), p. 156.

(more)Because it's more than just "healthcare" that's at stake.
The Battle for America’s Soul
By C.L. Gray, MD
A review and commentary
If one were tempted to write a book that accurately captured the tug of war our country is currently undergoing, they would find that someone has already done their work for them.
Framed in the current healthcare debate, Dr. Gray pits the great thinkers against each other in a duel of world views that is playing out in our society even today. From Hippocrates and Plato to Jean-Jacques Rousseau and Friedrich Nietzsche, all the important titans of philosophical thought are represented. And at the very heart of their debate lay a central issue; who has the power to make decisions that affect our lives, the individual or the state?
By defining what shaped Hippocrates’ and Plato’s world views in the field of healthcare, Dr. Gray lays out the case that this is a very old argument taken into the present day and that ultimate authority for our world view depends greatly on the our foundation of truth. Whether it be sacred or secular in origin, both make their cases clear; where Hippocratic-thinkers place a premium on human life—at both ends of the life cycle—the Platonian-thinkers consider life at the earliest and latest stages as a burden to the state. To make this an easier decision for the state, the state simply does away with the concept of God. This is a recurring theme throughout the book.
Each chapter’s presentation is thoroughly researched, painstakingly discussed and individually end-noted, yet with straightforward writing that makes for an enjoyable yet thought-provoking read.
Before you take up the banner on behalf of a particular side, it may be instructive to understand the genesis from which world view you are arguing, Hippocrates or Plato?
The world view of “Hippocrates – 1) Accepted the concept of a fixed Truth, 2) believed in the intrinsic value of human life, 3) thought medicine should serve (the) well being of the patient, 4) rejected infanticide and euthanasia, 5) the common man could appeal to a higher moral code.
The world view of “Plato – 1) Rejected the concept of a fixed Truth, 2) believed the philosopher king should determine the value of human life, 3) thought medicine should serve (the) welfare of the State, 4) accepted infanticide and euthanasia, 5) The State could do as it wished.”
These arguments continue to play out on the societal stage today. The question is, which one stands more closely with the founding principles of freedom and which one stands for the omniscience of the State?
“Government benevolence under socialism sounds so noble when first introduced. The ruling elite use sweet words of compassion to win the public’s trust, even as they secure power for themselves. However, contempt for the common man lies underneath this apparent concern.”
C. L. Gray, MD, The Battle for America’s Soul, (Hickory, NC: Eventide Publishing, 2011), p. 63.
C. L. Gray, MD, The Battle for America’s Soul, (Hickory, NC: Eventide Publishing, 2011), p. 156.























1) decriminalize pot
2) make more crimes capital crimes and expedite the death penalty process
Sounds to authoritarian for me. I prefer liberty to make my own choices and live with the consequences.
The stimulus has failed!
Japan has the best system all their citizens are covered! The employer pays 4% and the employee 4 1/2%. They can do this because they employ people in their private sector that make things! The government sets a reasonable cost on services and depending on what industry you have many choices of care which is provided by private companies. Their lifespan is 5 year more than ours! They export more than they import and the cost of their care for everyone is less than 10% of their GDP.
Our care that does not cover everyone as of yet is over 15% of GDP and climbing!
You really have to ask yourself what's wrong with this picture?
How about you stop defending failed policies in Washington no matter which side?
Of course, with current economy situation, less workers, less taxes, so problems to support all this.
Anyway, this is not our mayor problem. Our economy was based in construction and in turism, and with the crises, both colapsed, an also because our bank bought another countries debth (UE's for example), and that brought us down.
We also have a big problem of medical turist, people who can not afford medical treatment in their countries and come to our, as in an emergency, doctors are not allowed to say not.
Why do American people want to WASTE so much money?