Yes; I will..I'd rather call them what they are; an invading force of blood sucking SOB's that want what's not theirs!!
It's rolls off the tongue better than illegal....
SHOULD THE "I" WORD (ILLEGAL) BE BANNED?? WILL YOU SIGN THE PLEDGE??
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Space Invader 2012/05/07 18:48:19
What part if illegal isn't understood? They "broke" into the country, as if they had "broke into" your house and started living there without your permission. Isn't that illegal too?
Have a wonderful troll life with some other victim.
I agree wholeheartedly with this premise. By keeping people out who would come here to gain a better life for themselves and their loved ones, we make void the words we placed on Lady Liberty -- to which we all pay lip service -- and in so doing reveal ourselves to be pompous liars.
what does that equate to - does it mean sneak into America, take their jobs or freeload off the system.
The Statue of Liberty is not law
The spirit of Emma Lazarus' words then seems to be strongly in line with the original intent of the founders, and with the laws during the first eight decades of this nation. I realize we have laws today against immigration, certainly. I just think such laws are un-American.
Do you not feel that, given a level playing field (meaning given only citizenship and the same opportunity as other Americans), these immigrants would not only 'take' jobs, but also *create* jobs -- become entrepreneurs, proprietors, investors, capitalists -- in at least the same proportion as other immigrants have (including us) in previous generations?
What I'm driving at is, what precisely is it, if anything, that's inherent in those of Mexican or Hispanic background/race that would cause them to be incapable of *fueling* and *expanding* our economy as other immigrants have, as well as becoming the employees of others? In other words, why do we not look at Mexican or Hispanic immigration as an opportunity for additional entrepreneurship and job creation? Why do we always seem to see them as a liability rather than an asset?
If that's your answer though, that such people are incapable of being productive citizens, I'll accept it.
Would you prefer we all call them Illegal aliens? after all that's what illegals really means, only in a shorter form, making it easier to say, as we do with an uncountable number of compound terms in our language.
One question, if I may ask, regarding the jobs these immigrants are putatively stealing: Do you not feel that, given a level playing field (meaning given only citizenship and the same opportunity as other Americans), these immigrants would not only 'take' jobs, but also *create* jobs -- become entrepreneurs, proprietors, investors, capitalists -- in at least the same proportion as other immigrants have (including us) in previous generations?
What I'm driving at is, what precisely is it, if anything, that's inherent in those of Mexican or Hispanic background/race that would cause them to be incapable of *fueling* and *expanding* our economy as other immigrants have, as well as becoming the employees of others? In other words, why do we not look at Mexican or Hispanic immigration as an opportunity for additional entrepreneurship and job creation? Why do we always seem to see them as a liability rather than an asset?
No common language , no common customs, no common history , no common beliefs.
All this can be achieved in less than 18 months with a open border policy. Complete with the famines , diseases , crimes of their native lands. The starving children with bloated stomachs , the famines, the diseases , the refugee camps.
There is a lot more to consider besides a 85% unemployment rate .
I take it your answer then is that this is what you are likening Mexicans/Hispanics to... that this is all such people have inherent within them... that they're able to produce nothing whatsoever -- to start no businesses, produce no jobs and invest nothing which could fuel economic production? If that's your answer, fine, but I just think that's a poor way to view human beings of any race or culture, and I don't think it comports with what science tells us as to aptitudes and abilities among diverse human groups.
As to the customs and language: Many countries do just fine having several languages spoken and no official one, but I do tend to think an official language is helpful with assimilation. I wouldn't mandate how people must communicate with one another, but I'll agree that much is good idea.
The African Continent has a horrible Aids Pandemic . Along with a belief that sex with a virgin will cure them . Running low on virgins , infants are raped in an effort to cure aids among some . They would love to come to America to achieve all the benefits of Public housing, food stamps, free medical and cash.
( Obama's Aunt and Uncle are two of the lucky Africans who got in )
Surely the could supply a hundred million or two from that continent .
Between China and India they could easily find a 500 Million who would like to escape grinding poverty along with China's one Child policy .
Tens of Millions of Arabs would love to enjoy Americas Hospitality and spread their religion as missionaries to heathen lands.
South and central America , suffering from unbearable crime , drugs, disease, would gladly bypass the death march of Mexico if they could come by sea and plane.
Should there be no limit ? A billion ? two billion ? Three billion?
Surely every single one will start a business , pay taxes and there will be no detrimental effects at all . Considering that we already have estimated 20 to 40 millio...
The African Continent has a horrible Aids Pandemic . Along with a belief that sex with a virgin will cure them . Running low on virgins , infants are raped in an effort to cure aids among some . They would love to come to America to achieve all the benefits of Public housing, food stamps, free medical and cash.
( Obama's Aunt and Uncle are two of the lucky Africans who got in )
Surely the could supply a hundred million or two from that continent .
Between China and India they could easily find a 500 Million who would like to escape grinding poverty along with China's one Child policy .
Tens of Millions of Arabs would love to enjoy Americas Hospitality and spread their religion as missionaries to heathen lands.
South and central America , suffering from unbearable crime , drugs, disease, would gladly bypass the death march of Mexico if they could come by sea and plane.
Should there be no limit ? A billion ? two billion ? Three billion?
Surely every single one will start a business , pay taxes and there will be no detrimental effects at all . Considering that we already have estimated 20 to 40 million illegal Mexicans how many hundreds of millions from other countries should be allowed ? Or there should be no limit , no restrictions ? using Third world refugee camps as models for all the worlds refugees.
I'm talking about attempting to see the inherent worth in people who come here from the outside, to see our common humanity (and really our common economic interests, or at least to see how such interests might be possible or desirable). You're just tossing about a sea of 'what if' hypotheticals that appear to be rooted in fear.
Familiar with an old movie " Life Boat " ?
There does not seem to be any inherent value by race or country , although there is a difference in those willing to accept American traditional values.
As it is not possible to allow everyone who would like to enter , then criteria needs be established as to who can be admitted.
This is not a new debate, should only the best educated be allowed ? The best and the brightest ? This reduces person to utilitarian valuations.
Should proximity be the deciding factor ? Educated scientist , doctors and Desperately need skills locked out in favor of near by gangsters ?
Screening for communicable diseases like Leprosy ( recent rise in cases due to illegal immigrants ) Or Typhoid , Tuberculosis, Malaria , Polio, Plague isn't applied to illegal immigrants . The reintroduction of diseases that have been all but forgotten can be traced back to illegals.
http://www.texastribune.org/i...
When all factors were considered and debated the laws were established as to who and how many could enter legally .
Those who have not come into the country legally , for purposes of differentiation , are called illegal Aliens.
(Eastern Europe doesn't farewell either)
Housing: But it was another racialized New Deal program, the Federal Housing Administration that helped generate much of the wealth that so many white families enjoy today. These revolutionary programs made it possible for millions of average white Americans - but not others - to own a home for the first time. The government set up a national neighborhood appraisal system, explicitly tying mortgage eligibility to race. Integrated communities were ipso facto deemed a financial risk and made ineligible for home loans, a policy known today as "redlining." Between 1934 and 1962, the federal government backed $120 billion of home loans. More than 98% went to whites of the 350,000 new homes built with federal support in northern California between 1946 and 1960, fewer than 100 went to African Americans.
So now that they are finally trying to give these same opportunities to minorities and foreigners people throw tantrums. I could give you a lot more examples.
Eu could easily supply millions of immigrants if there were no obstacles to entry.
I'll stand by the assertion that the billions that go to bed hungry each night would love to come to this country if only to eat what is discarded.
The option of garnering welfare , public housing , medical care , schools only raises the stakes. America cannot accept Hundreds of millions or a billion refugees from their home countries without also reducing its standard of living to the countries of the refugees.