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Should the GOP Repeal Obama's Health Care Reform Bill?

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Do Republicans want to repeal ObamaCare? Is Christine O’Donnell not a witch? You betcha!

We won’t know until Wednesday (or perhaps later) what the makeup of the next Congress will be and whether the GOP will have enough votes to implement a priority outlined in the 2010 Republican Agenda to “repeal and replace the government takeover of health care.”

Even if they stage the kind of takeover that has been suggested, The Washington Post noted that it could be difficult “if not impossible” to actually repeal the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act.

Why? Even if they take both houses of Congress, they would, ironically, not have enough votes to counter a Democratic filibuster, not to mention a presidential veto, which any repeal would most certainly face.

In other words, like it or not, ObamaCare is here to stay.

What weapons can the GOP deploy against the plan? The Post reported that even if Republicans only gain one house of Congress, they will have some control over appropriations, which the health plan has in spades. With over 115 appropriations that are vital to implementing the plan, the GOP could block crucial parts of it, or even refuse to give the staff of the Department of Health and Human Services time to set up the law.

They can also stymie it by refusing to pass any appropriations that would fund the law, or any alternatives. If President Obama then refuses to sign any appropriations bill that doesn’t fund health care we could be headed for the same kind of government shutdown that occurred in 1994 when Republican leader Newt Gingrich and Democratic President Bill Clinton faced off in a budget battle.

The tricky part for Republicans is that even though the health care bill is unpopular overall, there are elements of it – such as no lifetime limits on coverage, no discriminating against children with preexisting conditions and coverage for dependents up to age 26 – that they admit are well liked. They don’t want to get rid of those, but trying to wipe out the bill without wiping out the bill will be very tricky.

Then again, maybe they’ll just stall until 2012, when they think they could take back the White House and have a much stronger veto pen.

Do you think Republicans should try to repeal health care?

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  • possiblymaybe November 03, 2010 04:47:18
    Yes
    possiblymaybe
    +9
    Hell Yes! That bill is horrendous! If there is any money well spent it is repealing that piece of death right there. If you support it but have not read it, READ IT and read the stimulus too.


    money spent repealing piece death support read read read stimulus

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  • Patrick December 16, 2010 19:25:24
    Yes
    Patrick
    actually all of us need to repeal the health care bill,
    not just the GOP, everyone will be involved, the bill as it stands needs to be repealed...IMO
  • Phlo13 November 16, 2010 09:44:12
    No
    Phlo13
    What is it with you people? Have you guys got something against people, or just watch to much T.V. The whole reason the health care lobby is putting up such a fight is the Exchange Participation "PART II—CONSUMER CHOICES AND INSURANCE COMPETITION THROUGH
    BENEFIT EXCHANGES." Direct quote. The insures have divided the country into sections and have an oligarchy in place. This is what the GOP wants to remove. They may say "freemarkets" but what they really mean is our market. This is why they have fought so hard against this bill for this reason and no other. Open your minds and uderstand that money is the main motivating factor here;not your health or your future.
  • Jerapa November 09, 2010 11:48:16
    Yes
    Jerapa
    This bill is nothing but a massive, uncontrolled federal entitlement expansion — at a time when the central, looming threat to the nation’s long-term prosperity is the unaffordable health-care entitlements already on the federal books.
  • sailor November 05, 2010 01:55:07
    Yes
    sailor
  • bizutage01 sailor November 05, 2010 18:07:53
    bizutage01
    How exactly do the Republicans plan to "repeal Obamacare" with only a majority in the House? And did they get rid of "Socialist" programs like Social Security or Medicare when they controlled Congress and the White House?
  • notPCguy ~JLA~ November 05, 2010 00:11:27
    Yes
    notPCguy ~JLA~


    DAMN RIGHT
  • Jana November 03, 2010 20:11:26
    Yes
    Jana
    Absolutely......Obama wants to give away everything! People who work and pay 1/4 of their paycheck in taxes, have health care don't want to pay for the people who are working the system not a JOB. Sickens me what our taxes go towards while I work a full time job and others can lay around the house.
  • Jackie G - Poker Playing Pa... November 03, 2010 18:35:36
    Yes
    Jackie G - Poker Playing Patriot
    The reality is that Obama would veto - so they will slice and dice it via funding. We need reform and this bill is not it - there are several great ideas that were advanced and rejected by the progressives because they allow the citizens to make their own decision - they will work hard to push those through . But first they will work on the economy and jobs by re-empowering business.
  • linuxrocks November 03, 2010 17:42:51
    Yes
    linuxrocks
    +1
    Oh we know they will try. See anything that is good form Americans the GOP wants 100% free enterprise within it. They think man needs to make money at everything(more like rape the economy and its citizens). GOP has stood for only 1 class of Americans... Top 2% aka "Corporate America". When was the last bill they created for middle and the poor that was really good for them? I can't remember any.
  • Jackie ... linuxrocks November 03, 2010 18:39:57
    Jackie G - Poker Playing Patriot
    Oh I can think of many but will go with just one. Those non-existent (so we were told for the last 4 years) tax cuts for middle and lower income that the democrats just noticed . Middle class got the biggest percentage friend and, most are not paying anything at all; if you just read the tax table, you would figure that out. And by the way, how many poor people have ever given you a job, insurance or a raise?? This class warfare crap is just old and stupid!!
  • linuxrocks Jackie ... November 09, 2010 11:13:27
    linuxrocks
    You know... that made little sense... Since it was the top 2% who got the biggest Tax break. And all Bush gave the middle class was a 1 time check, big deal! The middle class doesn't have the money due to the "Fact" the top 2% does. And your last sentence made no point, be realistic, someone who is poor isn't going to start or have a business! Now THAT is crap!
  • Jackie ... linuxrocks November 09, 2010 22:54:12
    Jackie G - Poker Playing Patriot
    Lookk at the frigging tax codes - he gave the middle class the largest percentage -You can look it up - it is there to see. Hell, you are one of those dolts who does not understand even the IRS codes -

    Look, if you wish to remain stupid, do so. Your deal not mine - but a quick look at the tax codes should tell you.
  • linuxrocks Jackie ... November 15, 2010 05:43:45
    linuxrocks
    As I said "Dolt" the top 2% got the "MOST"! gawd READ!!!!
    If I'm stupid then that must make you... brain dead :P
  • Jackie ... linuxrocks November 15, 2010 17:17:20
    Jackie G - Poker Playing Patriot
    Thank you for making my point!
  • linuxrocks Jackie ... November 15, 2010 22:25:11
    linuxrocks
    omg! HAHAHA !
  • bill November 03, 2010 17:39:23
    No
    bill
    First freeze or roll back all health costs for the next 10 years. Then get rid of all non citizens in the U.S. Then see if we still have a decent country to live in.
  • ScottCleaves November 03, 2010 17:31:38
    No
    ScottCleaves
    +1
    According to the latest CBS poll, 48% of Americans want health care reform repealed while 47% do not. It's not going down.
  • possibl... ScottCl... November 04, 2010 12:22:59
    possiblymaybe
    Because most haven't read it. Have you read it yourself? It's a hefty read. I suppose of those who haven't, part can't read in English and part can't read at all.
  • DrLaserfalcon November 03, 2010 17:31:10
    No
    DrLaserfalcon
    +1
    Yeah.. screw your 26 year old kids. Kick them the hell of of your policy!

    Also, if people with cancer wanted health insurance, they wouldn't have contracted a pre-existing condition in the first place. There is no cure for stupidity, right?
  • possibl... DrLaser... November 04, 2010 12:32:39
    possiblymaybe
    Health care reform is possible without this particular bill. This particular bill has less to do with health care than you might think. If you read it, you will understand what I am saying is true. I was a skeptic. I like what the propaganda says. Its what the propaganda doesn't say that is the problem. People, including yourself, should consider that all the people against the bill are not against some of the ideas the stem from the bill that serve people. Most people against the bill are against the overwhelming aspects of it that can, likely will and are already harming people.

    I am not sure if there is a cure for stupidity. I wish there were so people would read the bill and be able to understand it before judging it is a good thing for themselves or others. There are ways to help prevent stupidity. One way is to make informed decisions that are based on personal research.
  • Jeremiah DrLaser... November 04, 2010 23:43:58
    Jeremiah
    Stupidity is defined by your post, my friend.
  • linuxrocks DrLaser... November 09, 2010 11:18:20
    linuxrocks
    I sense you don't have kids let alone have them and they are in college, and if you do I hope the disown you for being a selfish parent.

    God you are the epitome of the "Dumb American"... Saying "Also, if people with cancer wanted health insurance, they wouldn't have contracted a pre-existing condition in the first place. There is no cure for stupidity, right?" is ignorant! No one wants to get Cancer. Most is environmental and some is genetic. It's not like not wearing a rubber sleeping with someone who has AIDS... SHEESH !
  • DrLaser... linuxrocks November 10, 2010 18:43:28
    DrLaserfalcon
    Let me introduce you to my friend, Sarcasm.
  • asherjames2012 November 03, 2010 17:04:43
  • Boss November 03, 2010 16:51:30
    No
    Boss
    not a chance!!! pres has veto...and there are not enough votes to override it...plus, once the majority becomes used to it, it will be as accepted as medicare, social security...etc.
    as aretired person, I was told there would be disastrous changes for medicare recipients...just got my 2011 booklet..I see no changes in benefits...and this idea that government will make decisions for you is absurd....who makes them now??some dude in India who decides wether you can go to some specialist or not..etc...
  • possibl... Boss November 04, 2010 12:38:58
    possiblymaybe
    The plan evolves over time. Some people will see changes right away while others will see it over the years in small increments. Read the The Stimulus, PPAA and HCERA. Also, benefits for you and others may differ. All the booklets are not the same. I know this because my aunts booklet in MA differs from my uncle's who lives in VT. That's one thing I just found out, although I have no way to prove it. But I am waiting for my mail so I can scan the books and compare them. I think it's important as people to be informed. I keep saying, I was definitely a skeptic and had to read it myself. I'm not with a political party or wish to screw anyone - - seriously. I have been hard pressed against many republican policies in the past. I'm a neutral. And this bill is not what people think it is nor want I assure you.
  • ALofRI possibl... November 05, 2010 16:37:46
    ALofRI
    Well, if the right has it's way, and the states have more control, you will have to move to a richer (probably Democratic) state in order to get decent health care. The conservatives haven't learned what clubs, co-ops, unions etc. have learned, that by being the largest group you can be (like a "nation"), you can get the best deals. So simple, yet hard for them to grasp!
  • Jerapa Boss November 09, 2010 11:50:37
    Jerapa
    The bill is nothing but a massive, uncontrolled federal entitlement expansion — at a time when the central, looming threat to the nation’s long-term prosperity is the unaffordable health-care entitlements already on the federal books.
  • ALPEAUX November 03, 2010 16:46:34
    Undecided
    ALPEAUX
    +1
    HOPEFULLY!

    Alpeaux
  • cmdrbnd007 November 03, 2010 16:42:18
    No
    cmdrbnd007
    Considering they don't control the Senate it doesn't seem likely. I hope they try though.
  • pj November 03, 2010 16:41:20
    Yes
    pj
    If they do anything, this is one thing they must do. It's the groundwork/framework for socializing ALL of America! It's the biggest federal power grab in history. It's the worst piece of trash ever!
  • DrLaser... pj November 03, 2010 17:32:43
    DrLaserfalcon
    +1
    Oh my God.. not the Socializing! The next thing you know, the Fire Department won't be on a Pay per Fire basis anymore. They'll just help anybody for free!! The horror!
  • pj DrLaser... November 03, 2010 17:36:36
    pj
    Haha. That's not what I mean by Socialism and you know it.
  • DrLaser... pj November 03, 2010 17:56:56
    DrLaserfalcon
    +1
    Yes, I'm being snarky. In all seriousness, I have no idea how the health care bill was a 'federal power grab' if it handed over tons of money and customers to the private health insurance industry. Maybe you can explain it to me.
  • possibl... DrLaser... November 04, 2010 12:40:17
    possiblymaybe
    +1
    Why not just read it? Seriously, why does it seem everyone is avoiding the work of reading it but are willing to go with it?

    Stimulus [Full Text]

    [PDF] Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act

    [PDF] Health Care and Education Reconciliation Act of 2010
  • Jerapa DrLaser... November 09, 2010 11:52:32
    Jerapa
    The bill is nothing but a massive, uncontrolled federal entitlement expansion — at a time when the central, looming threat to the nation’s long-term prosperity is the unaffordable health-care entitlements already on the federal books. To create the impression of fiscal responsibility, the bill is jury-rigged with budget gimmicks, implausible eligibility rules, and arbitrary, government-dictated price controls — that have been tried repeatedly without success — to make it look like it costs “only” $900 billion over a decade. Smaller entitlement programs have been tried before, and they have not only failed, but have irreversibly damaged our economy.
  • ALofRI pj November 05, 2010 16:48:14
    ALofRI
    No, what you meant by "Socialism" is what the Insurance Cartel has put out there for you to believe. We have had MANY "Socialistic" laws and rules in this country FOR YEARS, and have not become a "Socialist" country, nor will we! ALL of Europe is more socialist than WE, and they lived with Socialism next door for years...and HATED it! Yet, today they are embracing many of the useful parts of it in order to make the lives of their masses better. Over here, we only care about the privileged few, which, I may point out, was NOT the intent of those often mentioned "forefathers".
  • pj ALofRI November 05, 2010 17:05:13
    pj
    Same old rewritten history and same old class envy...blah, blah, blah. In Europe, anyone with any sense STILL hates socialism, and Europe is falling apart...Do you know what's been happening in GREECE, where the "masses" are no longer getting their government goodies? Is it because the government doesn't care? No! It's because they have run out of the money they've been stealing from the "privileged" few. Duh.
  • UnusualSuspect November 03, 2010 16:35:27
    No
    UnusualSuspect
    They'll try, but they won't totally succeed.

    Some language will be changed, but that's about it.
  • Georgia50 Unusual... November 03, 2010 17:35:38
    Georgia50
    So you think 47 states and DC are going to roll over and play dead so that Louisiana, Florida, and North Dakota can get special treatment? 300 million Americans will buy something because the federal government orders them to? People will ignore their dying relatives they know could have been treated under pre-Obamacare policies?

    I'm not saying you're wrong; but if you're right, I think we're in for quite a ride before reaching the point you describe.
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