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Should the 5 Democrats who voted to repeal Obamacare have kept their opinion to themselves to enable them to avoid criticism from their Party, Or are they 'REAL' Americans for voting their convictions as they should?

Phil 2012/07/11 21:21:51
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I am proud of the Democrats who voted to repeal Obamacare, even though it will not do any harm to the bill its self. They should be praised by ALL citizens of the United States, including all Democrats, for having the 'balls' to vote the way they believe rather than only voting Party. These Democrats exemplify the true spirit of America, and should be a model for all Democrats AND Republicans to vote for what they feel is BEST FOR AMERICA and not to vote for WHAT MY PARTY WANTS.
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  • NPC 2012/07/11 21:38:16
    Yes, they should vote their conscience at all costs.
    NPC
    +9
    Who are the 5 Democrats the voted for Freedom and Liberty today ? They should renounce their party and join the Conservatives.

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  • Luv♥Luv 2012/07/13 00:58:12
    I have another thought.
    Luv♥Luv
    Only done because they are afraid of losing their job.
  • ☆ QueenAline 2012/07/12 22:58:13
    Yes, they should vote their conscience at all costs.
    ☆ QueenAline
    +1
    Hats off to them....they made a right decision and voted with their conscience...maybe there is light at the end of the tunnel...I'm proud of them too....
  • Charles E ☆ Queen... 2012/07/12 23:56:48
    Charles E
    Most, if not all of them voted what their constituents prefered because they feared being voted out of office if they didn't.
  • ☆ Queen... Charles E 2012/07/13 01:23:01
    ☆ QueenAline
    +1
    these bastards work for us, and they SHOULD vote for what their constituents want.....that's what they're supposed to do...weather from fear of losing their jobs, or not, they were put in office to do the people's will..and if they don't then they deserve to be booted out on their fat bloated lazy asses
  • Charles E ☆ Queen... 2012/07/13 14:32:02
    Charles E
    +1
    Yes they should!
  • AL 2012/07/12 06:54:26
    Yes, they should vote their conscience at all costs.
    AL
    They know Obama care has awakened the sleeping Giant they fear alot more then Obama or their own party!
  • ParkMan 2012/07/12 03:06:42
    Yes, they should vote their conscience at all costs.
    ParkMan
    +1
    If I'm sending someone to Congress, I sure hope they vote their convictions.
  • ID51 2012/07/12 03:04:39
    Yes, they should vote their conscience at all costs.
    ID51
    +2
    These 5 are real patriots with the best interests of the country and their constiuents at heart. Conscience is much more important than Party.
  • Charles E ID51 2012/07/12 23:59:45
    Charles E
    Their conscience told them they would be voted out of office if they opposed repeal.
  • Ken 2012/07/12 02:49:46 (edited)
    I have another thought.
    Ken
    +2
    How about they vote for what their constituents want.
  • Lady Wh... Ken 2012/07/12 13:14:11
    Lady Whitewolf
    +1
    THERE YA GO!
  • Phil Ken 2012/07/12 23:50:48
    Phil
    That would be IDEAL, but since when has that ever happened? You are looking for Utopia, and it does not exist. Take the Electoral College for a prime example: many times the public will overwhelmingly vote for one candidate, and the 'College', who is supposed to represent the people's choice, will elect the other candidate with their vote.

    And just how do you know that their constituents didn't want them to vote that way? You think that they would 'cross' the Party just to get attention and the disgust of their constituents?

    Are you suggesting that these 5 Democrats are ignorant enough to vote against their constituents (or at least against their betterment), or what? If so, the Democratic voters should not reelect them on that premise. But, I don't believe that this is the case.
  • Ken Phil 2012/07/13 00:48:43
    Ken
    I think the five voted for the repeal to represent those who put them in office.
  • john Kills 2012/07/12 01:44:43
    Yes, they should vote their conscience at all costs.
    john Kills
    Party loyalty is stupid. Always support the individual that supports your personal beliefs.
  • Old Salt 2012/07/12 01:38:30
    I have another thought.
    Old Salt
    +1
    They simply remember what happened to the "other" blue dog dems who went along with nancy pelosi and voted for it last time! They're NO LONGER employed!
  • joseph digristina 2012/07/12 01:35:47 (edited)
    I have another thought.
    joseph digristina
    +1
    Totally irrelevant. This is the 30th time in less than 2 years and it's not going anywhere anymore than the other 29 did. You Cons sure know how to encourage our Congressman to waste their time and our money. What the hell have the Republicans in the House accomplished since 2010? Nothing, zip, zero, nada. If it were a Democratic House that did this, you'd be bitching morning, noon and night about them wasting our money.
  • Lady Wh... joseph ... 2012/07/12 13:14:42
    Lady Whitewolf
    WELL said!
  • joseph ... Lady Wh... 2012/07/13 01:55:34
    joseph digristina
    Thanks Lady White Wolf.
  • Phil joseph ... 2012/07/13 00:06:44
    Phil
    We won't give up on anything when we see it for what it is, something that is bad for the American People as a whole. Sure, this crap bill will benefit a few, but the MAJORITY is what we have ALWAYS been concerned with.

    If Obummer was so concerned about the supposed 30 million uninsured, why didn't he just start a separate program for them (like the food stamp program was set up for) and not mess with the MAJORITY of the American population?

    WHY didn't he, because he was raised a Socialist and that is what he is, therefore that is what he promotes, socialized medicine - to heck with the MAJORITY, he gets what HE wants, and since he couldn't get it passed the proper way and knew that it wouldn't fly with those who care about the MAJORITY of Americans, he got it passed through in secret.
  • joseph ... Phil 2012/07/13 01:59:11
    joseph digristina
    If you knew ANYTHING at all about the bill other than Republican lies, you might know that this bill affects no one but the uninsured financially. That will become obvious once the lies fade away just as they did when Social Security and Medicare were passed. The republicans are lying to you and misleading you. Do some research.
  • Watermusicranger 2012/07/12 00:41:36
    I have another thought.
    Watermusicranger
    +2
    They should vote in the direction of the people who elected them.
  • jojac 2012/07/12 00:21:20
    Yes, they should vote their conscience at all costs.
    jojac
    Now lets pray that they demand that all of 0 buma's records be
    brought forth, and work for his impeachment, and for Holder
    to go to trial, etc.
  • MarinerFH 2012/07/11 23:57:51
    Yes, they should vote their conscience at all costs.
    MarinerFH
    +1
    I am proud of any Congressman who votes on the benefits of the issue, for the good of the American people, rather than being a tool for a POTUS or party leadership. That is what they are supposed to do.
  • Phil MarinerFH 2012/07/13 00:49:43
    Phil
    +1
    Well, that is what I thought for 48 years. They ARE supposed to vote as their constituents want them to, I learned that in school years ago. But I also found out that when he/she feels that their constituents could be wrong and he/she feels that the issue is bad for the MAJORITY of America citizens, they should vote their conscience. This has been done by Republicans and Democrats alike, over hundreds of years.

    I give these 5 Democrats credit for not being ignorant or stupid enough to vote contrary to their constituents, just to endanger their position, unless they had a firm belief in what they were doing - or they hopefully they polled their constituents before voting and this is what their constituents wanted, I haven't heard any reports of citizens railing them for improper representation, as yet anyway. I also give credit to the other Democrats who voted NOT to repeal Obummercare for voting the the way that they did , if this was their conviction based on constituents desire and THEIR conscience.

    It seems to be a thought of many on this blog, that the only thing a Representative can do is to vote Party and constituent, whether they believe that be right or wrong for the American People. Things must have changed over the years, when did our Government fundamentals change?...
    Well, that is what I thought for 48 years. They ARE supposed to vote as their constituents want them to, I learned that in school years ago. But I also found out that when he/she feels that their constituents could be wrong and he/she feels that the issue is bad for the MAJORITY of America citizens, they should vote their conscience. This has been done by Republicans and Democrats alike, over hundreds of years.

    I give these 5 Democrats credit for not being ignorant or stupid enough to vote contrary to their constituents, just to endanger their position, unless they had a firm belief in what they were doing - or they hopefully they polled their constituents before voting and this is what their constituents wanted, I haven't heard any reports of citizens railing them for improper representation, as yet anyway. I also give credit to the other Democrats who voted NOT to repeal Obummercare for voting the the way that they did , if this was their conviction based on constituents desire and THEIR conscience.

    It seems to be a thought of many on this blog, that the only thing a Representative can do is to vote Party and constituent, whether they believe that be right or wrong for the American People. Things must have changed over the years, when did our Government fundamentals change? And if they did, was it by those who sabotage our Country at every turn, trying to Fundamentally Change us? But at least I can still say, GOD BLESS AMERICA, and I will defend Her, and my right to say that, to my death.
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  • MarinerFH Phil 2012/07/13 02:05:34
    MarinerFH
    Agree 100% Tks
  • heirsoftheking 2012/07/11 23:54:21
    Yes, they should vote their conscience at all costs.
    heirsoftheking
    +1
    AND, vote to reflect what the majority of the citizens in their district want. They are members of "The House of Representatives."
  • Q 2012/07/11 23:25:38
    I have another thought.
    Q
    +1
    It all depends on they're reason for voting the way they did. Did they really vote their conscience or are they representing a conservative district/State and only voted this way to protect their @sses come their next election?

    The five are Reps. Boren (OK), Kissell (NC), Matheson (UT), McIntyre (NC), and Ross (AR).

    Just an educated guess but I think its the latter considering where they represent which is hardly commendable...but who knows for sure?
  • joseph ... Q 2012/07/12 01:39:25
    joseph digristina
    +1
    100% correct. They voted to save their asses, and anyone who thinks this was a vote of conscience is a fool.
  • Phil joseph ... 2012/07/13 00:58:47
    Phil
    You mean, Democrats would actually do such a thing?????? I guess I was fooled, I thought Democrats were above 'saving their asses', as you put it, and were ALL so much better than Republicans who have been accused of the same thing . HUH, learn something new everyday.................!
  • joseph ... Phil 2012/07/13 02:00:19
    joseph digristina
    Those five are " conservative " Democrats and no different than any other lying , cheating, phony Con.
  • Phil joseph ... 2012/07/13 19:48:38 (edited)
    Phil
    Lying, cheating, phony Con, huh? Let a Conservative say that about a Liberal Regressive Demoncrat, and you would probably shoot them. I didn't say that they lied, I didn't say that you lied, I just said that it is not common for a Demoncrat to vote against Party any more than for a Republican to vote against Party, and especially not in order to 'save their asses', as you put it. And Democrats 'claim' to be such upstanding voters who support the middle class. When someone votes 'against' Party, they are usually jeopardizing their job rather than insuring tenure. I also have said that they could have polled their constituents and this is what they wanted the vote to be. Not ALL Democrats are in LOVE with this healthcare bill. Some even believe that it is detrimental to the populous and will cost more in taxes than the benefits will ever provide.

    If these Representatives are "Conservative" Democrats and you can't stand for dissension in the ranks, why don't you petition your Party to get rid of them, or have them start a new party classification? Maybe all those Democrats that are 'conservative' ????can form a party of their own, and all the Republicans who are 'Liberal' ???? can start their party, and we can have a 5 way vote, including the Independents. If the news I'm getting ...



    Lying, cheating, phony Con, huh? Let a Conservative say that about a Liberal Regressive Demoncrat, and you would probably shoot them. I didn't say that they lied, I didn't say that you lied, I just said that it is not common for a Demoncrat to vote against Party any more than for a Republican to vote against Party, and especially not in order to 'save their asses', as you put it. And Democrats 'claim' to be such upstanding voters who support the middle class. When someone votes 'against' Party, they are usually jeopardizing their job rather than insuring tenure. I also have said that they could have polled their constituents and this is what they wanted the vote to be. Not ALL Democrats are in LOVE with this healthcare bill. Some even believe that it is detrimental to the populous and will cost more in taxes than the benefits will ever provide.

    If these Representatives are "Conservative" Democrats and you can't stand for dissension in the ranks, why don't you petition your Party to get rid of them, or have them start a new party classification? Maybe all those Democrats that are 'conservative' ????can form a party of their own, and all the Republicans who are 'Liberal' ???? can start their party, and we can have a 5 way vote, including the Independents. If the news I'm getting is a pack of lies, why aren't the producers being sued for lying about Obummer's health law? Why hasn't some 'upstanding' Donkeycrat attorney filed charges for slandering the entire Party, and more exclusively, defamation to the character of the President? Why? Because they know that they can't win when what is said is true, plain and simple.

    I have always been of the opinion that Rep's and Dem's should be reasonable with each other, but sometimes that doesn't happen. and EITHER side can be overly hard-headed. At this particular time, it appears that the Demoncrats are being hard-headed because of Hairy Greed marking every bill that comes to his office as D.O.A., and never opening them simply because they came from the Rep's.

    If things WERE THE OTHER WAY 'ROUND, and the Republicans were in the White House doing this to the Demoncracks, there would probably be riots in the streets, protests, and chants of, "the President wants bipartisinship from us, but never works with us, so it's KEEP ME HAPPY and kiss my rear. No matter what you have to do, just do it MY WAY." "He won't even let us vote on the bills and circumvents Congress to get his bills passed because he knows he doesn't have enough support - damn Republicans."
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  • joseph ... Phil 2012/07/13 20:04:50
    joseph digristina
    My, my ,my. You're an overly verbose Con aren't you ? Too bad every word is gross overstatement. hyperbolic, filled with lies and bias. A naive idiot can see who is responsible for the logjam in Congress and it sure as hell isn't Harry Reid.
    Why should he allow idiotic bills to come to the floor and waste time when the Senate has no intention of passing them and the President has no intention of signing them? It's pure obstructionism on the part of your party and the American people see it when they give Congress an 11% approval rating---40% under that of the President. Who do you think you're fooling? I say yourself.
  • Phil joseph ... 2012/07/18 07:46:47 (edited)
    Phil
    By all means, PLEASE continue believing ALL of your twisted dilusions. I want you to wake up, but not until the trumpet sounds for your goose-step training, Comrade. You are so brainwashed that you can't even read. I said that Hairy Greed DIDN'T EVEN READ THE BILLS, so how can he tell if they aren't worth putting thru the system? But it doesn't matter if they were worth a s%*t, Donkeycracs didn't come up with them, so they are worthless, right? A perfect example of partesinship that Odumber REALLY wants, when he calls for cooperation!!!

    But you just go on living in your haze, believing Obummer's the Messiah. Even the one who called him the Messiah turned on him when he found out what he really was, but you can't see anything. Go back to sleep now. Someone will wake you when it's time for you to march Comrade.
  • joseph ... Phil 2012/07/19 07:28:43 (edited)
    joseph digristina
    You can't even spell delusions. Why should I take even one word of that preposterous harangue seriously? No one else takes you whacked out radical right fringe lunatics seriously...not even your own screwed up party. They only humor you as they think your even nuttier than I do.
    By the way, the ONLY people who ever called Obama the Messiah were idiots like you. I don't even believe in God, why the hell would I believe in a Messiah. Face it, you're whacked, all your Cons are whacked and emotional damaged. Go get on the clown car with the rest of your your commandants, I mean comrades, and toot your horns.
  • Aurora 2012/07/11 23:20:31
    Yes, they should vote their conscience at all costs.
    Aurora
    Mike Ross may not be running again.
  • dubbie 2012/07/11 23:19:58
    I have another thought.
    dubbie
    +2
    The thought of losing everything ,Makes the mind think , Having thoughts of unemployment dancing in their head may have something to do with it. You think ?
  • ed 2012/07/11 23:17:38
    Yes, they should vote their conscience at all costs.
    ed
    +1
    it's just to bad more of them didn't.
  • boots 2012/07/11 22:55:50
    I have another thought.
    boots
    +1
    Dinos.
  • John Hall 2012/07/11 22:53:03
    Yes, they should vote their conscience at all costs.
    John Hall
    +2
    Give a big RAVE to those 5 democrats they got brains .
  • Wolfman 2012/07/11 22:45:27
    Yes, they should vote their conscience at all costs.
    Wolfman
    +2
    But I have another thought. The majority of the voters want Obamacare repealed. If one wants to be reelected, one should vote to repeal it.

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