I am very pro-sucession! We have enough solar and wind energy potential to support ourselves, job creation is high in Texas, foreign support would be high, etc. Plus, we aren't quite as redneck as some people would like to believe, and our political leaders could do some real good. Call me biased, but I like the sound of it.
Oh, and Texas xan secede because we were the only state to be admitted into the Union voluntarily, as an independent nation. We reserve the right to secede in the best interest of the people.
Should Texas secede and become own country ruled by the State and not the Federals?
Durf
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Hutches 2009/06/23 02:15:52
The Federal Government has demonstrated they cannot or will not defend Texas from armed durg runners corssing our border. They have in fact aided and abetted drug runners by providing them with weapons. (Fast and furious - The Federal Government would like nothing better to take our guns but has no problem giving guns to drug runners) The Federal Government cannot or will not prevent illegal immirgation nor inforce the law to return illegal immirgants.
The Federal Government is ignoring the 4th and soon the 2nd ammendment of the Constitution.
The State of Texas has little in common with Washington at this point. The do-nothing, tax and spend congress is not acting in the interest of the country and certainly not in the interest of Texas.
We can do better on our own.
The State of Texas has everything necessary to be a self sustaining Republic, once again.
Energy, agriculture, manufacturing, shipping, areospace - you name it.
Our own, "Bush" became president, probably because of his brother or whatever who WAS doing the ballots for the election for his presidency, no wonder why he made it.
He dropped America's expectations for 8 years straight. Barack Obama is now here, I don't care if Chuck Norris was President, it's a new person, with pure new views on America, and change is coming, just a matter of EVERYBODY AMERICAN doing their part, being supportive. If change doesn't come, in a matter of let's say, 3-7 years..well we'll have our anser. Otherwise, ain't no freakin rush.
Excerpts from the Declaration of Independence stating the King of England's faults:
-He has refused his Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good. ~In other words the laws passed by states were rejected by a higher power.
-He has combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution, and unacknowledged by our laws; giving his Assent to their Acts of pretended Legislation: ~Good example: Former half of the Second Amendment to the US Constitution sta...
Excerpts from the Declaration of Independence stating the King of England's faults:
-He has refused his Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good. ~In other words the laws passed by states were rejected by a higher power.
-He has combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution, and unacknowledged by our laws; giving his Assent to their Acts of pretended Legislation: ~Good example: Former half of the Second Amendment to the US Constitution states "...the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed." In other words, gun laws are illegal.
-For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent: ~When was the last time we voted on taxes?
~In summary, we are transforming into what we accomplished to remove from our society.
The United States of America was set up to be a nation for the people. However when was the last time our government took a good look at the founding principals on which this nation was established? I could keep going, but should I really?
In other words...if we have to, I say YES!
Yes please leave the Union, you are an embarrassment to the United States. Take the traitor Bush with you.
-Brought to you by the American Friends for Texas secession.
I love the made -up name.
Durf
Oh, and Texas xan secede because we were the only state to be admitted into the Union voluntarily, as an independent nation. We reserve the right to secede in the best interest of the people.
Durf
Durf
Something has to be done. We have suffered for years and years. If the people in this country don't wake up, we will be in a lot of hurt. Our jobs are leaving more and more, pretty soon America will be a third world country. We need to take care of ourselves but we can't do it when everything we work for is going away little by little by Washington. And the taxes we pay...thats a whole different subject...
and become their own amsterdam!
Some reasons why:
1. As the primary border country - Texas would in effect become an independent nation - huge economic benefits from cross-border trade;
2. Texans at last get to decide to handle the drug-trade, Mexican immigrants moving illegally (or legally!) into the U.S., other smuggling, and related border issues as they see fit;
3. Texas no longer subject to decisions taken by federal government (representing states across the U.S. with very different ideas than Texans' about how to run a large continental country).
The rest of the nation - those who love Texas, those who hate Texas, those who are indifferent - will finally learn how the U.S. gets along without the Lone Star State. A lesson for non-Texans, as well as Texans. And a lesson on the subject of secession in general. Take notes, Quebec!
A: No such provision is found in the current Texas Constitution[1](adopted in 1876) or the terms of annexation.[2] However, it does state (in Article 1, Section 1) that "Texas is a free and independent State, subject only to the Constitution of the United States..." (note that it does not state "...subject to the President of the United States..." or "...subject to the Congress of the United States..." or "...subject to the collective will of one or more of the other States...")
Neither the Texas Constitution, nor the Constitution of the united States, explicitly or implicitly disallows the secession of Texas (or any other "free and independent State") from the United States. Joining the "Union" was ever and always voluntary, rendering voluntary withdrawal an equally lawful and viable option (regardless of what any self-appointed academic, media, or government "experts"—including Abraham Lincoln himself—may have ever said).
Both the original (1836) and the current (1876) Texas Constitutions also state that "All political power is inherent in the people ... they have at all times the inalienable right to alter their government in such manner as they might think proper."
Likewise, each of the united Stat...""""""""
A: No such provision is found in the current Texas Constitution[1](adopted in 1876) or the terms of annexation.[2] However, it does state (in Article 1, Section 1) that "Texas is a free and independent State, subject only to the Constitution of the United States..." (note that it does not state "...subject to the President of the United States..." or "...subject to the Congress of the United States..." or "...subject to the collective will of one or more of the other States...")
Neither the Texas Constitution, nor the Constitution of the united States, explicitly or implicitly disallows the secession of Texas (or any other "free and independent State") from the United States. Joining the "Union" was ever and always voluntary, rendering voluntary withdrawal an equally lawful and viable option (regardless of what any self-appointed academic, media, or government "experts"—including Abraham Lincoln himself—may have ever said).
Both the original (1836) and the current (1876) Texas Constitutions also state that "All political power is inherent in the people ... they have at all times the inalienable right to alter their government in such manner as they might think proper."
Likewise, each of the united States is "united" with the others explicitly on the principle that "governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed" and "whenever any form of government becomes destructive to these ends [i.e., protecting life, liberty, and property], it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new government" and "when a long train of abuses and usurpations...evinces a design to reduce them under absolute despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such government, and to provide new guards for their future security." [3]
Durf
In that case, perhaps it is time to dissolve this Union of States in America? Red State America secedes from federally-administered, D.C.-controlled Blue State America?
Might make everybody happy!
To make a decent map, perhaps a deal could be worked out? The Blue States turn over Colorado and New Mexico to Red State America in exchange for South Carolina and Georgia? Then it would really be three Americas: America Blue (East Coast), America Green (West Coast), America Red (Middle). Would sure change the nature of life on this continent, and life would be a lot more interesting.
Hell, we should give it a go!
My point - if I had one - would be that it was tried before. Nobody remembers the Delian League. There's a good reason for that. It was a loose confederacy of ancient Greek city-states which cost the Greeks their place at the pinnacle of the Western World. The member states argued, dropped out, went their separate ways. So that once the opposition of Carthage was broken after a long struggle, the Mediterranean lay at the feet of Rome. Unchallenged. The Greeks should have been there to challenge them. Had Greece and Carthage both been in the game, Rome would have been out, and the history of our species would have taken a different course.
As a continent-spanning empire, America will always be a powerhouse, even if displaced economically in a multipolar globalized world.
So what if America gave secession a try?
If the Confederacy had prevailed, I submit that world history would have been almost as different as if Rome had never seized the spotlight on the world stage.
Maybe the world would be better off that way. Maybe it wouldn't.
Either way, Texas as a completely independent free state, as a haven and experiment for Libertarians, a place where Ron Paul and Kinky Friedman excite the passions and loyalties of the citizens? I like it!
Texas was once an independent country and has previously left the Union because of the actions of the Federal Government.
Contrary to popular opinion, the Civil War did nor settle the question of secession. Any competent lawyer will tell you that any concession or agreement obtained under duress or at the point of a gun is invalid and nonenforceable.
Durf