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Should Testing on Animals Be Banned?

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BLOGS.INDEPENDENT.CO.UK reports:
Animal welfare charities reacted angrily to news in July that the number of animal experiments rose to a record high in Britain last year - but is the research necessary or ethically justified?


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  • Picasso's Cat 2012/08/19 13:50:21 (edited)
    Yes
    Picasso's Cat
    +37
    We should test prisoners on death row, they are human and the test results would be more accurate. And they can communicat with the testors.
    If they die during the testing, who cares, they are killers, child molesters and worse.
    We could start with charles manson.

    I'll bet that alone would be more of a deterrent to crime than any other deterrent, so crime would go down, a win-win situation to the overall problem.

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  • SoD Inquisi... 2012/08/23 03:02:30
    SoD
    That's utter nonsense.

    Prohibiting tests on animals would be inherently harmful to humans due to a lack of in vivo metabolic and toxicology experimentation regarding drugs.
  • Inquisi... SoD 2012/08/23 04:28:12
    Inquisitve Kat
    Like I said... most animal testing done is unnecessary, not all. I accept that some testing should be allowed.
  • SoD Inquisi... 2012/08/23 04:45:21
    SoD
    Unnecessary according to who and by what standard?
  • joe mauro 2012/08/21 05:39:07
    Yes
    joe mauro
    now
  • Peppergirl14 2012/08/21 05:25:33
    No
    Peppergirl14
    +2
    I wish there was an undecided/other option on this poll because I think some animal testing should be banned (such as cosmetic reasons. I think that is completely unnecessary), but I think animal testing for medical research is okay as long as there are strict regulations in place. I realize that this is a very touchy subject, and I completely understand why some people would want animal testing banned.
  • sheilaana.nunez 2012/08/21 05:17:01
    No
    sheilaana.nunez
    +2
    YES!!! We have plenty of pedophiles for testing! I meant to check , YES :/
  • Sayer Stewart 2012/08/21 05:15:25
    Yes
    Sayer Stewart
    +1
    It's cruel. We can test voluntarily on humans.
  • Marcus Clark 2012/08/21 05:15:08
    No
    Marcus Clark
    +1
    If you don't want testing done on animals, volunteer to take their place.
  • 3003573 2012/08/21 04:31:01
  • garyt212 3003573 2012/08/21 04:33:09
    garyt212
    +1
    You are free to volunteer. :)
  • 3003573 garyt212 2012/08/21 04:35:16
  • garyt212 3003573 2012/08/21 04:38:49
    garyt212
    I would bet some of those in prison have a higher IQ than you...
  • 3003573 garyt212 2012/08/21 04:45:18 (edited)
  • garyt212 3003573 2012/08/21 04:50:02
    garyt212
    +1
    I guess then that you were smart enough to know you made a stupid comment
  • 3003573 garyt212 2012/08/21 04:59:55
  • garyt212 3003573 2012/08/21 05:03:50
    garyt212
    You might be right and I think those that agree with you should be the first in line to volunteer....:)
  • 3003573 garyt212 2012/08/21 05:06:05
  • SoD 3003573 2012/08/21 21:46:31
    SoD
    +1
    The Nazi's would have agreed with you.
  • 3003573 SoD 2012/08/21 22:54:17
  • SoD 3003573 2012/08/22 00:15:13
    SoD
    No you don't need to remind me.

    I only use the Nazi's when speaking of genocidal dictatorships because most people are familiar with the reference. The United States actually sided with the more atrocious of two dictators during WWII.
  • 3003573 SoD 2012/08/22 00:25:04
  • SoD 3003573 2012/08/22 01:39:40
    SoD
    Nonsense.

    The state is not attempting to atone for its sins, but rather it has exacerbated past atrocities. It has done far worse than compulsory sterilization, in that it has succeeded in convincing the populace that having an abortion is the moral equivalent of clipping toenails. Like Tom Sawyer, the central government has whitewashed the populace and in doing so has liberated us of our sensibilities.
  • 3003573 SoD 2012/08/22 01:41:53 (edited)
  • SoD 3003573 2012/08/22 01:56:18
    SoD
    I don't babble.

    Morality, or an explicit lack thereof, encompasses every aspect of human life.

    So you think it's just concindental that the government funds the brick and mortar of Planned Parenthood, a pioneer in the field of propaganda driven eugenics?

    Over 1.2 million human lives are snuffed out by abortion every year in the United States. How many lives do you think it saves?
  • 3003573 SoD 2012/08/22 02:04:28
  • SoD 3003573 2012/08/22 03:15:43
    SoD
    "WHOSE morality might that be?
    YOURS?"

    The desire to control the lives of others is utterly alien to me. However, I would like the ability to withhold my money from the funding of activities which I feel are detestable. However, abortion advocates have denied me this right, and thus I am forced to live according to your morality.

    "Planned Parenthood receives about a third of its money in government grants and contracts."

    This confirms what I've already stated regarding the public funding of Planned Parenthood's brick and mortar. I know you think this refutes my previous comments, but I just don't see how. Unless of course you live in bizarro world.

    "A person's life, by ANY definition, begins when they are born.
    There is only ONE life involved in ANY abortion."

    No, that's your definition and a very unscientific one at that.

    The fetal heart-beat is usually observable 8 weeks following conception along with all anatomical characteristics which will exist in the adult human.

    A separate heart-beat indicates a separate life, and an observable human form indicates a human life-form.

    "How many women aren't forced to have children they don't want?"

    Your attempt at shifting the discussion from your claim that abortion is a life saving procedure is an example of the duplicitous intellectual cowardice I've come to expect from liberals.
  • 3003573 SoD 2012/08/22 03:38:39
  • SoD 3003573 2012/08/22 04:00:46
    SoD
    "By law, taxpayer money CANNOT go to abortion."

    More accounting hocus pocus eh?

    "In what possible universe is 30% a majority?"

    I never said anything about a majority of funding. However, your data indicates that the federal government is the biggest source of Planned Parenthood's funding.

    "Need i remind you that for the first several months, the so-called "heart" "beats" OUTSIDE of the body?"

    No, that's irrelevant.

    "You really are uninformed, aren't you?"

    Not according to the following website.

    http://www.americanpregnancy....
  • 3003573 SoD 2012/08/22 04:34:55
  • SoD 3003573 2012/08/22 15:06:50
    SoD
    "A minority is NOT the "brick and mortar""

    The degree to which an entity funds something is irrelevant to the fact that it provides financial support.

    "It's called the Hyde Amendment."

    I'm familiar with the Hyde Amendment. I'm also aware of the accounting hocus pocus which makes it irrelevant. It's the equivalent of taking money out of one pocket and putting it into another. The money I give McDonalds for my food goes to cover the cost of other things aside from burgers and fries. How many happy meals do you think McDonalds would sell. if each of its stores didn't have a roof and four walls?

    "Not if you're trying to prove that the fetus in anatomically and physiologically human, its not."

    If a fetus isn't human, what is it?

    "You might want to try some CREDIBLE sources."

    So an organization whose mission statement says it is "a national health organization committed to promoting reproductive and pregnancy wellness through education, research, advocacy, and community awareness" and which also has entire section of its site devoted to unplanned pregnancy and abortion is not credible?
  • 3003573 SoD 2012/08/22 19:22:08
  • SoD 3003573 2012/08/22 20:08:09
    SoD
    "Technically speaking, it's a malignant cancerous tumor on the inside wall of the uterus."

    With that comment, you've made my case for me.

    You've stated a number of things in your criticism of the APA, many of which are both accurate and positive. What is your primary issue with the American Pregnancy Association? Is it that the APA promotes adoption, discloses the potential emotional and physical side-effects of abortion, discloses the accurate anatomical development of a fetus and verifies it with ultrasound, or that it provides material support for crisis pregnancies?

    Abortion can increase the risk of infertility and problems with future fetal development. Anytime doctors poke around on your insides, they can inadvertently cause irreparable harm. This is true of any surgical procedure and is precisely why one must sign a care consent form prior to any surgical procedure. The established relationship between abortion and breast cancer, or the lack-thereof, is not definitive. However, my position has little to do with these issues. My position is that the fetus is human, which you oddly reject. Instead you think the fetus is literally a malignant tumor, which complete and utter malarkey. Cancerous tumors in no stage of development will ever be anything but a tumor.
  • Jenn 2012/08/21 04:27:01
    No
    Jenn
    +4
    I going to say no, I do feel bad for these animals, but I value human life over an animal. If it takes a few rats to one day cure cancer or heart disease then so be it.
  • The.Z.Viru5 2012/08/21 04:24:35
    Yes
    The.Z.Viru5
    +2
    As Pardon Me? said, there are much better specimens waiting on death row who are more deserving. Besides, they're wasting money by being there anyway as they're already condemned to death and are still living better than upstanding members of society.
  • Jo 2012/08/21 04:11:40
    Yes
    Jo
    +4
    God, yes, and dont even get me started.
  • Jeff Smith 2012/08/21 04:03:48
    No
    Jeff Smith
    +3
    I think they should switch their testing from rats and mice to Liberals, Democrats and all those on welfare who refuse to work. Oh and lets not forget the illegals they could actually serve a purpose.
  • vetogod Jeff Smith 2012/08/21 04:27:15
    vetogod
    well a few people like myself are on welfare and wanting a job .... the problem is the job market is hard here in Utah over 50 places i applied at and 1 interview that some one more experienced got the job , its kinda hard when your fresh meat on the job market..... i hate being on welfare i would be happy working 50 hours a week as long as its not a desk job i need to be up and moving lol and the illegals i would volunteer to torture them lol i have the twisted mind and psychotic imagination for it too but i cant harm a fellow American nor would i ever turn on my own
  • Rave vetogod 2012/08/21 11:39:00
    Rave
    You talk about wanting to volunteer to torture humans...

    I wonder why you didn't get that job...
  • vetogod Rave 2012/08/22 02:28:20
    vetogod
    ya i would volunteer to torture those who rape this country and that don't have pride in my country , like spics and any other person who dose not have a green card
  • Rave vetogod 2012/08/22 04:11:04
    Rave
    "like spics and any other person who dose not have a green card"

    Yeah, I think with that attitude it'll be a while before you find a job.. not wanting illegals in the country is okay, wanting to torture them is not okay.

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