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Should Teachers Be Banned From Social Networking Sites?

SodaHead News 2011/04/12 11:00:00
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Parents all like to think of their children as little treasures who say and do the darndest things. But when you send those minor miracles out into the world, let’s face it: sometimes they’re jerks. And often at school.

If you think teachers don’t get together in their lounges and talk smack about your kids, well, denial ain’t just a river in Jordan (see, you weren’t paying attention in school either, bonehead!)

But what do you do when teachers take their grievances out in public about their challenging charges? The Huffington Post reported on a growing movement to restrict teachers’ use of social networking sites like Facebook after a rash of recent stories about instructors referring to their students as “future criminals,” “germ bags” or simply admitting that they “hate their guts."

A Boston Globe editorial also wondered if it’s really wise for teachers and students to friend each other on Facebook, since, well, it usually ends up badly. In one case some teachers were fired for doing some virtual flirting with their students online. Others have gotten the boot after posting Facebook pictures cavorting with strippers, another for referring to parents as “snobby and arrogant.”

School boards from Florida to Connecticut are considering new rules to govern the social media activities of teachers, with many districts simply advising their staffs to keep it clean online or risk losing their jobs. All this cracking down has, of course, raised the question of First Amendment protections for both students and teachers, but the bottom line according to some educators is simple: just don’t personally interact with your students online and you won’t have a problem.

Should teachers be banned from social media sites?
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  • BT 2011/04/12 11:15:45
    No
    BT
    +11
    Any teacher who can't figure out that you shouldn't talk about kids on Facebook by now truly deserves to be fired for doing so. But we can't take away their right to say those things in the first place. What would we yak about on Sodahead?

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  • Anna 2012/06/12 23:27:28
    No
    Anna
    If the teacher isn't smart enough to use discretion then they probably aren't smart enough or good enough role models to be teaching kids.
  • Meeksy 2011/05/05 03:25:13
    No
    Meeksy
    I am a teacher, and I have many students on my FB (admittedly with restricted privacy settings). My rule of thumb is I don't write anything on there that I wouldn't say to someones face, and not put anything on there that I am ashamed or embarrassed about. Simple really. Any bitching can be saved for private conversation.
  • cents-less 2011/04/18 17:46:41
    No
    cents-less
    No, teachers should have a social life. They should also have the basic common sense to know what to put online and what to keep quiet about.
  • Jaslynn Barker 2011/04/18 03:09:26
    No
    Jaslynn Barker
    +1
    Teachers should just use social networking sites wisely. Or make one personal account, and one professional account.
  • Anna 2011/04/17 23:36:02
    No
    Anna
    You've gotta allow kindergarten teachers and 1st grade teachers on there. No questioning about that!!!!! Preschool ones are probably okay
  • santa6642 2011/04/17 15:41:03
    Yes
    santa6642
    They are predators
  • alaasskaa,♥ 2011/04/15 15:28:36
    Yes
    alaasskaa,♥
    +1
    please block them ^.^
  • Catlin Marie 2011/04/15 00:27:50
    No
    Catlin Marie
    Well, if students have a right to post about that (insert profanity of choice here) teacher, why can't teachers post about that fleabag brat? Freedom of speech does not just protect nicey nice speech according to the supreme court.
  • carri b... Catlin ... 2011/04/15 17:21:25
    carri byers
    But any company that cares about it's clients would (and many already do) have policies demanding its employees show professional decorum and confidentiality when using networking sites. Many private employees have been fired for abusing those policies. As far as I know, there are no wrongful firing lawsuits pending for such firings. I am a service provider and spend hours and hours helping my clients with very personal issues. I am held to a very strict confidentiality expectations and NEVER talk about my clients (except in the very general sense I am now) on the internet. Why I should not expect the same kind of professional decorum from the people I hand my CHILDREN over to for 6 hours out of 180 days a year for 12 years of their lives is the question.

    I've have read many posts that claim the immature, mean and irresponsible behavior of students/minors on networking sites as justification for adult employees of the state to do the same. REALLY!!!!! Have we really reached that low?
  • icymore 2011/04/14 23:32:21
    No
    icymore
    I've been strongly considering going back to school to become a teacher. But the way things are going for teachers lately, I think that would be an incredibly stupid move.
  • carri b... icymore 2011/04/15 17:23:50
    carri byers
    It would be unless you go into private education. And then, if you think you will be free to discuss your professional interactions with a child on FB or Twitter without the parents demanding a discipline against you - you are in for a rude awakening. It's called professional decorum and protective policy for minors. What is hard to understand about that?
  • icymore carri b... 2011/04/15 21:24:00
    icymore
    +1
    hmm, I don't recall saying that it's appropriate for teachers to discuss their professional interactions with their students on social networking sites. But they shouldn't be banned form social networking sites, either.
  • carri b... icymore 2011/04/23 23:57:35
    carri byers
    +1
    Umm, that's what the site is talking about. The wording of the question was stupid - the obvious answer to such a overreaching solution is NO, no one should or could be banned from internet usage - but the meat of the discussion was whether teachers have the right to talk about their students on networking sites. I think it should be firing offense to do so. In my profession, I would be fired if I disrespected my clients to the extent of talking about their interactions with me on social networks. Teachers should be held to that same high standard, or even higher, since they are dealing with minors.
  • wtw 2011/04/14 23:15:15
    No
    wtw
    +1
    No way!
  • wuwu6620 2011/04/14 15:56:28
  • ily2011 2011/04/14 03:56:55
    No
    ily2011
    +1
    No . Teachers make fb's so they can get in touch with their students by getting on their level and combining school work at the same time. I get alot dont because i can just get on fb at home and get my homework assignments so why ban it? Its usin technology in another way .
  • Omni ily2011 2011/04/14 08:31:51
    Omni
    +1
    Be honest, how often have you been skipping out on your English homework? It almost seems like you'd have an F in that class.
  • ily2011 Omni 2011/04/18 03:30:37
    ily2011
    Hahaha . Next joke (make sure its funny this time,please!)
  • carri b... ily2011 2011/04/15 17:27:48
    carri byers
    +1
    Let me ask you something - is 6 hours out of the day not enough time to make connection and clarify homework? How ON EARTH did teachers do it without FB??? I just don't know....but I'm willing to bet it can be done again.

    And btw, I don't like the idea of my child's teacher "getting on their level". Teachers jobs are to teach and provide role modeling...not to get "down to your level". They are supposed to be helping you rise to their level - and they don't do that through "friendshipping" you - they do it by earning your respect and trust by being excellent teachers - something you may not be familiar with if you go to PSD.
  • ily2011 carri b... 2011/04/18 03:31:19
    ily2011
    Nice to know...
  • Anna ily2011 2011/04/17 23:38:57
    Anna
    Omni is only 18 on here and he's acting like a 'big boy.'
  • Omni Anna 2011/04/18 05:09:45 (edited)
    Omni
    Clarify this "big boy" attitude you claim I've adopted, because last time I checked, 18 was an age where you were looked upon as a full-fledged adult in this country. And at least I have the balls to put my age on here, whereas you're probably some deadbeat failure of a mother who leeches off the sporty questions Sodahead provides as an outlet for all your past mistakes.

    And I laugh at the fact that you had added me prior to this - as if by some chance you were inspired by my "18" year old foolishness. Hah! But don't worry, I deleted you.
  • Anna Omni 2011/04/18 05:25:51
    Anna
    There's no way I'm going to discuss things or change my thoughts around a dumb 'big boy!!!!!'
  • Omni Anna 2011/04/18 05:31:41 (edited)
  • Ontario Teacher 2011/04/13 23:25:50
    No
    Ontario Teacher
    With a silly question like the one you have posed, I guess teachers should be banned from coffee shops and malls and only leave their homes to go to and from school.
  • carri b... Ontario... 2011/04/15 17:35:06
    carri byers
    The question IS silly - because it takes a serious subject and exaggerates it into silliness.

    Banning teachers from networking would obviously not be possible. But, state wide policies that require the same kind of professional decorum from school teachers as from private sector employees and other state workers is quite reasonable. I work with clients of the state as a contracted service provider. Sometimes they drive me crazy. I would never DREAM of discussing those issues on this site or any other. My clients deserve the sense of safety that confidentiality provides. So do students, who - btw - are minors.

    Do you realize the NEA and their lawyers are in the process of trying to make federal laws to protect teacher's rights to say anything they want about their students (as long as it's not "inappropriate" - meaning sexual)?

    Now that's ridiculous!!!
  • Tex Deadalu 2011/04/13 21:18:30
    No
    Tex Deadalu
    That's stupid - just don't friend your teachers.
  • carri b... Tex Dea... 2011/04/15 17:36:00
    carri byers
    How does that stop your teacher from commenting to someone you know about something stupid you did in class and then that person passes it on till it gets to you?
  • Tex Dea... carri b... 2011/04/16 01:12:49
    Tex Deadalu
    It doesn't - just don't post stupid things on there, it's your fault if the teacher sees it.
  • carri b... Tex Dea... 2011/04/24 00:01:28
    carri byers
    So, as a service provider working with handicapped adults, I should be free to discuss their issues, their problems, the embarrassing and stupid things they do on social networking pages? I am held to very high standards of confidentiality - no matter how infuriating, difficult and irritating my clients behavior may be to deal with. That is called professionalism. Teachers should be held to the same high standards if not higher since they are dealing with minors.
  • Tex Dea... carri b... 2011/04/25 00:23:18
    Tex Deadalu
    No, I didn't say that. If I didn't say it clearly enough the first time, then here it is again.

    Teachers should not be banned from Facebook because it is up to the student to either not care or not do anything to embarrass themselves. I think that there should be an option that makes it so that teachers and/or parents cannot look into or comment on their child's/student's Facebook page. Either that or just don't have a Facebook account.
  • carri b... Tex Dea... 2011/04/25 17:44:08
    carri byers
    Well, my dear, you aren't any clearer in this post than in the last. It seems you are are saying it's fine for teachers to be on Facebook and it's fine for them to gossip about things that happen in class because if a student is stupid enough to do or say embarrassing things they deserve to have it splashed all over the internet - but, OTOH, it's fine to ban students from Facebook and it's fine to ban parents from viewing the goings-on on their child's Facebook page. You are all over the chart.

    I am not calling for anyone to be banned from the internet - that is not only un-Constitutional, it is impossible. I am calling for the right of parents to call for and rights of school districts to fire or otherwise penalize teachers who abuse the professional decorum of educators by immaturely ranting and raving about their students on social network sites or who inappropriately friend students over such sites.

    Teachers are trained not to touch, hug or become familiar with a student, they aren't allowed to be alone with a student without another adult present, they aren't supposed to seek connection to students outside the classroom - all due to sexual misconduct of teachers in the past. But teachers should be allowed free access to my child on the internet with his/her teacher?!?! I don't think so.
  • Kiki 2011/04/13 15:22:05
    No
    Kiki
    +1
    Teachers should be allowed to use social media and be allowed to say whatever they want to say about their students. However, just like talking smack/gossiping about co-workers, teachers should be punished/fired for spreading malicious tales about their students.

    If teachers want to be treated like professionals they should act like professionals. If a lawyer, accountant and/or doctor were to talk smack about a client, more than likely they would be fired by their employer or client. If a plumber talked trash about a customer there's every likelihood that plumber would suffer, professionally. The same should happen to teachers.

    FYI...The freedom of speech does not exclude someone from suffering the consequences of exercising their freedom of speech.

    US citizens have the freedom of speech by they also have the obligation of responsibly exercising their freedom of speech.
  • carri b... Kiki 2011/04/15 17:38:38
    carri byers
    +2
    Excellent! That is exactly what I've been trying to say - but you said it much better. By the way - how do you make bold your lettering - I have yet to figure out how to use all the tools on this site.
  • rspell 2011/04/13 14:39:09
    No
    rspell
    +2
    I just don't add kids...it's that simple.
  • Arclight 2011/04/13 13:55:41
    No
    Arclight
    +1
    Get a grip SodaHead!
  • belinda 2011/04/13 13:41:07 (edited)
    No
    belinda
    +2
    I had a facebook when you had to have a university email account to get one. That means I have the brains not to say anything about my students on public profiles. Besides that, I keep my facebook account private so that only those I have added as friends can see what I am updating. Perhaps if facebook weren't to so many people, a pathetic and dismal attempt to look more popular than they are by adding everyone they have ever laid eyes on and posting publicly for all the world to see, situations like this could be avoided.



    And damn right we talk about your kids. When as many parents as they do use school as daycare—and I am talking about high school here—someone has to look after their best interests. Sometimes we express our opinions in a negative manner. Doing it publicly on facebook is wrong, but I'm sorry, if the rest of the working world can slag off their colleagues, why must teachers be so saintly when we sometimes have to deal with little vagrants?
  • carri b... belinda 2011/04/15 17:43:31
    carri byers
    Ummmm, because they are minors, whereas other colleagues are adults. Because parents don't want adults they trust their kids to 6 hours of the day, 180 days out of the year for 12 years of their life to someone who feels the need to "slag off" on our children - perhaps you should look at a different career.

    Or don't you think trust is important to the learning process?

    Teaching is a very difficult job as it is without adding to it the emotional garbage of airing your frustrations in public. Get a grip!
  • kaiqi17 2011/04/13 13:36:05
  • danielsboo<3xoxo 2011/04/13 13:26:18
    No
    danielsboo<3xoxo
    +1
    Omg i meant yes i clicked yes ,,,, because facebook is banned in several school for students , so it should also be banned from teachers
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