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Should Taxi Drivers Be Fined for Aiding Prostitutes?

News 2012/06/27 13:00:00
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New York City cabbies will be a lot more reluctant to transport sex workers now that Mayor Michael Bloomberg has signed a new bill that will heavily penalize the act. According to The Frisky, the harsh penalties won't hit until the second offense -- then they hit hard. The second time a NYC taxi driver is convicted of knowingly transporting a prostitute, it's a whopping $10,000 fine.

However, there are some rather obvious catches. Cabbies cannot be expected to make a judgment call based on appearance, so it will probably be difficult for law enforcement to make a case against the drivers. For that reason, critics of the law are concerned that it will force drivers to discriminate against anyone they feel might possibly be a prostitute. Do you think the law is fair?


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  • BSINCO Always ... 2012/06/28 17:26:03
    BSINCO
    Traveling is a Right

    For many years professionals within the criminal justice system have acted upon the belief that traveling by motor vehicle upon the roadway was a privilege that was gained by a citizen only after approval by their respective state governments in the form of a permit or drivers license.

    Legislators, police officers, and court officials are being made aware that there are court decisions disproving the opinion that traveling is a privilege that requires government approval.

    "Even the legislature has no power to deny to a citizen the right to travel upon the highway and transport his property in the ordinary course of his business or pleasure, though this right may be regulated in accordance with the public interest and convenience." Chicago Motor Coach v. Chicago, 169 NE 22.

    ("Regulated" here means traffic safety enforcement: stop lights, signs, etc.)

    "The right of the citizen to travel upon the public highways and to transport his property thereon, either by carriage or by automobile, is not a mere privilege which a city may prohibit at will, but a common right which he has under the right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness." Thompson v. Smith, 154 SE 179.

    It could not be stated more conclusively that citizens of the states have a right to travel, wit...


























    Traveling is a Right

    For many years professionals within the criminal justice system have acted upon the belief that traveling by motor vehicle upon the roadway was a privilege that was gained by a citizen only after approval by their respective state governments in the form of a permit or drivers license.

    Legislators, police officers, and court officials are being made aware that there are court decisions disproving the opinion that traveling is a privilege that requires government approval.

    "Even the legislature has no power to deny to a citizen the right to travel upon the highway and transport his property in the ordinary course of his business or pleasure, though this right may be regulated in accordance with the public interest and convenience." Chicago Motor Coach v. Chicago, 169 NE 22.

    ("Regulated" here means traffic safety enforcement: stop lights, signs, etc.)

    "The right of the citizen to travel upon the public highways and to transport his property thereon, either by carriage or by automobile, is not a mere privilege which a city may prohibit at will, but a common right which he has under the right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness." Thompson v. Smith, 154 SE 179.

    It could not be stated more conclusively that citizens of the states have a right to travel, without approval or restrictions (license), and that this right is protected under the U.S. Constitution. Here are other court decisions that expound the same facts:

    "The right to travel is a part of the liberty of which the citizen cannot be deprived without due process of law under the 5th Amendment." Kent v. Dulles, 357 US 116, 125.

    "Undoubtedly the right of locomotion, the right to move from one place to another according to inclination, is an attribute of personal liberty, and the right, ordinarily, of free transit from or through the territory of any State is a right secured by the 14th amendment and by other provisions of the Constitution." Schactman v. Dulles, 96 App DC 287, 293.

    As hard as it is for those in law enforcement to believe, there is no room for speculation in these court decisions. The American citizen does indeed have the inalienable right to use the roadways unrestricted in any manner as long as they are not damaging or violating property or rights of others.

    Government, in requiring the people to file for drivers license, vehicle registrations, mandatory insurance, and demanding they stop for vehicle inspections, roadblocks, etc. are restricting and therefore violating the peoples’ common law right to travel.

    Is this a new legal interpretation on this subject? Apparently not. The American Citizens and Lawmen Association, in conjunction with the U.S. Federal Law Research Center are presently involved in studies in several areas involving questions on constitutional law. One of the many areas under review is that of the citizen’s right to travel. A spokesman stated in an interview:

    "Upon researching this subject over many months, substantial case law has presented itself that completely substantiates the position that the ‘right to travel unrestricted upon the nations highways’ is and always has been a fundamental right of every Citizen."

    This means that the beliefs and opinions of our state legislators, the courts, and those of us involved in the law enforcement profession have acted upon for years have been in error. Researchers armed with actual facts state that U.S. case law is overwhelming. To restrict in any fashion the movement of the individual American, in free exercise of the right to travel upon the roadways (excluding commerce, which the state legislatures are correct in regulating), is a serious breach of those freedoms secured by the U.S. Constitution, as well as most state constitutions.

    Our system of law dictates that there is only one way to remove a right belonging to the people. That is by a person knowingly waiving a particular right.

    Some of the confusion in our present system has arisen because many millions of people have waived their right to travel unrestricted, and opted into the jurisdiction of the state. Those who have knowingly given up these rights are legally regulated by state law, and must obtain permits, registrations, insurance, etc.

    Every police officer should keep the following U.S. court ruling in mind before issuing citations:

    "The claim and exercise of a Constitutional right cannot be converted into a crime." Miller v. U.S., F.2d 486, 489.

    Reprinted from a special edition of "Aid and Abet" bulletin #11, P.O. Box 8787, Phoenix, AZ. 85066, by Officer Jack McLamb.
    http://www.welcome.freeenterp...

    Google "right to travel" for even more enlightening information on your right to travel and how you gave up that right when you registered your vehicle or applied for a drivers license.
    (more)
  • Always ... BSINCO 2012/06/28 18:07:49
    Always Right
    It's not in the constitution and you are using a court's decision to say traveling is a right!
  • BSINCO Always ... 2012/07/03 17:17:33
    BSINCO
    wow, you can read!
  • V~POTL~... DPRKworker 2012/06/27 17:36:09
    V~POTL~PWCM~JLA
    +1
    Key word: "knowingly" Unless the prostitute is delivering services in the cab and taking cash on the spot, how would the cabbie "know"?

    And if the hookers ride the subway instead? Who gets the ticket? The train conductor?
  • johnpar 2012/06/27 16:26:46
    No
    johnpar
    +2
    Hell no - give 'em a percentage for hooking up! Ship Bloomberg to Kalifornia where he'll fit right in.
  • BUCCANE... johnpar 2012/06/27 16:39:14
    BUCCANEER~POTL~PWCM~JLA
    +1
    Better still Afghanistan,the Taliban will love his anal retentiveness!
  • TruXter 2012/06/27 16:26:44
    No
    TruXter
    +2
    Should cops be fined for taking people to jail because they get paid $10 per impound from the tow truck drivers and $45 per prisoner?
  • RandyScott (Party of One) 2012/06/27 16:19:37
    No
    RandyScott (Party of One)
    +4
    How ridiculous can you get? Taxi drivers are trying to make a living and they want to exclude a certain class of people from being able to use their services. What's next?
  • SOUL4REAL 2012/06/27 16:19:14
    No
    SOUL4REAL
    +4
    No, because that's the taxi cab driver job to assist in driving the customers where they need to go. If the prostitude doesn't pay for his service then you can prosecute the prostitude but not the cab driver. That's the cab driver "JOB"! Where do you all come up with these down "LAWS"? 9 time out of 10 the ones who set these laws are the ones who are being with the "Prostitudes"!
  • Kaimeso 2012/06/27 16:18:41
    No
    Kaimeso
    +6
    So now we're going to have a group of people who are NOT ALLOWED to use public transportation? Bloomberg and his soda ban, fat ban, next he will be making high heel shoes and mini-skirts illegal.
  • RandySc... Kaimeso 2012/06/27 16:21:21
    RandyScott (Party of One)
    +4
    Don't give them any more Ideas. They can come up with enough stupidity on their own.
  • Dan™: R... Kaimeso 2012/06/27 17:17:38
    Dan™: Real Change, Not False Hope
    +1
    You forgot to mention Bloomberg's salt ban.
  • prosper... Dan™: R... 2012/06/27 17:31:03
    prosperhappily
    +3
    Bloomberg is exactly the kind of man the founders of this nation DIDN'T want to see take power.
  • Dan™: R... prosper... 2012/06/28 13:50:44
    Dan™: Real Change, Not False Hope
    +1
    You're absolutely right. That guy runs NYC like it's his own private kingdom, and he's the King. His word is law and nothing is permissible in his kingdom without his approval.
  • prosper... Dan™: R... 2012/06/28 14:09:01
    prosperhappily
    +1
    Yep. they need to get rid of him & repeal an awful lot of what he's done.
  • ChrisK1969 2012/06/27 16:10:39
  • Kyle 2012/06/27 16:09:05
    No
    Kyle
    +2
    What the hell is the point of this law! What's that supposed to prove prostitutes don't deserve public transportation!?
  • Kevin1111 2012/06/27 16:01:45
    No
    Kevin1111
    +4
    Cabs transport people around, its not their job to determine the profession of the person.
  • musicman95 2012/06/27 15:56:35
    No
    musicman95
    +2
    prostitution is a job too! thats one of the stupidest things ive ever heard. whats next!
  • misterz 2012/06/27 15:56:12
    No
    misterz
  • stevegtexas@aol.com 2012/06/27 15:49:15 (edited)
  • Anonymouse ~superdoge~ 2012/06/27 15:48:46
    No
    Anonymouse ~superdoge~
    +2
    That's stupid. Just take a camera and say she's a porn star... It's the most ridiculous thing to be illegal, if someone wants to rent their sexual activities, who the hell cares?
  • V~POTL~PWCM~JLA 2012/06/27 15:30:36
    No
    V~POTL~PWCM~JLA
    +5
    How is a taxi driver supposed to know if a woman is a prostitute? Are the drivers supposed to quiz each passenger and get them to sign a statement in which they re-affirm their non-prostitute status?

    There are plenty of women who dress like prostitutes without engaging in that profession. And there are prostitutes who dress modestly.

    Gotta love NYC. Let's establish a dress code for hookers. That way, the politicians will have a bigger selection to choose from, and people with cars will have an advantage in picking them up. I propose this genius legislation be deemed "Elliot's law".
  • suzanne 2012/06/27 15:19:51
    No
    suzanne
    +1
    Unless you fine the johns
  • Zamboni - Madoka Magica fan... 2012/06/27 15:19:45
    No
    Zamboni - Madoka Magica fan BN0
    +5
    NO! These are people you are dealing with. START TREATING THEM AS PEOPLE!!!

    The fight for Sex-workers to be treated as people.
    Sex workers 14th December
  • Mercedes 2012/06/27 15:16:23
    No
    Mercedes
    +4
    There are tons of non prostitutes that dress like prostitutes. Judgement call? No way.
  • dontlookatme4444 2012/06/27 15:14:57
    No
    dontlookatme4444
    +1
    Lol, but I would go " Sorry, I can't pick up hookers. It's illegal. " just to dis some sluts.( they should pass that in new jersey too, I'd have fun with those whores on jersy shore)
  • Your Favorite Nerd 2012/06/27 15:07:41
    No
    Your Favorite Nerd
    +1
    wtf sodahead staff
  • johnpar Your Fa... 2012/06/27 16:29:15
    johnpar
    +4
    WTF Bloomberg?
  • TruXter Your Fa... 2012/06/27 16:30:57
    TruXter
    +1
    Staff?
    you can create a poll.. Anyone can create a poll.

    If its a popular enough poll, people will be notified to participate.
  • Your Fa... TruXter 2012/06/27 19:24:11
    Your Favorite Nerd
    The SodaHead staff makes the most stupid questions...
  • JohnT 2012/06/27 15:03:57
    No
    JohnT
    +4
    Should Law enforcement be fined for not having a 100% conviction on those apprehended? I think they better cool their heels. Enough already. Bloomberg better quit drinking that 32oz soda, he is getting too much of a sugar high.
    Government needs to be alleviated they are getting way to PC for me.
  • Gothpirate 2012/06/27 14:53:26
    No
    Gothpirate
    +3
    Prostitues are people too
  • stevegt... Gothpirate 2012/06/27 15:49:57
  • TruXter Gothpirate 2012/06/27 16:31:52
    TruXter
    No they aren't.
    More like a rental pet.
  • Josh Robinson 2012/06/27 14:50:26
    No
    Josh Robinson
    +1
    That will turn them into police officers... Cabbies drive and small talk... buster christmas past
  • Ƶɛяσ <3 o.o 2012/06/27 14:49:43
    No
    Ƶɛяσ <3 o.o
    +3
    Wtf!?! Taxi drivers job is to drive people to their destination! Prostitutes are considered people really! And how the freak do you know they are prostitutes??? They could've just been dressed like that! Bunch a freaking bull! You're basically telling the drivers they can't drive people who look like sluts or prostitutes around! TYRANNY!!!! TYRANNY I SAY!!!!
  • cmdrbnd007 2012/06/27 14:43:12
    No
    cmdrbnd007
    +5
    How do you know if someone is a prostitute? Bloomberg has gone power hungry in NYC. You New Yorkers really screwed the pouch when you elected him.
  • RJeffreySavlov 2012/06/27 14:38:40
    No
    RJeffreySavlov
    +6
    Typical liberal nanny state stupidity.
  • wgossett99 2012/06/27 14:35:30
    No
    wgossett99
    +9
    Prostitution should be legalized.

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