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Should SodaHead Allow People To Threaten The Life Of The President or Anyone For That Matter ?

Che Guevara - Hero 2012/06/20 21:19:38
NO, SH Should NOT allow Death Threats
YES, Death Threats are OKAY
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Should SodaHead Allow People To Threaten The Life Of The President or Anyone For That Matter ?

Lately there seems to be a rash of disturbed and imbalanced people threatening the life of the President of the United States and other SH Members. Should SH be allowing this type of dangerous behavior ?

Threatening the President of the United States
is a class D felony under United States Code Title 18, Section 871. It consists of knowingly and willfully mailing or otherwise making "any threat to take the life of, to kidnap, or to inflict bodily harm upon the President of the United States".

The United States Attorneys' Manual states that the Terrorism and Violent Crime Section has supervisory authority over Section 871 cases.

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  • GuruA2J~#IOKIYAR~612 BLOCKT 2012/06/20 23:59:08
    NO, SH Should NOT allow Death Threats
    GuruA2J~#IOKIYAR~612 BLOCKT
    +9
    Thanx Che cuz all the flags that were put up on the post I believe you are talking about were taken down. I even told Fef about it & the post still stands. Allowing these threats to stand because this is a Conservative website simply paints their side of the aisle as crazy people who are bent on doing violence to get their way.

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  • Magus BN-0 2012/09/20 05:45:37
    NO, SH Should NOT allow Death Threats
    Magus BN-0
    +1
    Many RWNs think they're above the law. SH shouldn't reinforce that delusion.
  • Ianstan BN-0 *Obama2012* 2012/09/20 04:24:41
    NO, SH Should NOT allow Death Threats
    Ianstan BN-0 *Obama2012*
    Why would anyone think it is OK unless they were totally out of their minds?
  • William Stevens 2012/07/11 15:48:18
    YES, Death Threats are OKAY
    William Stevens
    Intelligent patriotic Americans have lost millions of their sons to protect our freedom, yet you wonder why anyone would sacrifice one individual? Obama is a bigger threat to our nation than Hitler ever was and he isn't as valuableas one of our sons.
  • Magus BN-0 William... 2012/09/20 05:43:39
    Magus BN-0
    +1
    Way to spit in the face of the millions who had family members murdered by Hitler, you lunatic.
  • Red 2012/06/25 04:18:23
  • Child of light 2012/06/22 05:31:55
    NO, SH Should NOT allow Death Threats
    Child of light
    +2
    As much as I disagree with Obama and his policies, it is absolutely not appropriate to include death threats to the President of the United States. Sodahead should not even allow death threats period, unless it has something to do with the death penalty.
  • Tedster 2012/06/22 03:51:19
    NO, SH Should NOT allow Death Threats
    Tedster
    +2
    The "special" irony is that the same fanatics who render threats against the POTUS are the same ones who claim they believe in God and Country and actually self delusionally think they're the patriots and that there's no racism among their ranks. Unfortunately, the facts defeat their "arguments".

    The Secret Service reported that President Obama gets an average of 35 death threats per day which is a 400% increase over the number that W got. Somehow I doubt that these death threats are about repealing Obamacare, et al. Additionally, White supremacy/hate groups have increased by 244% since Obama's been in office. Nah, no racism or fanaticism in the US among the rt wing nuts.
  • Kronan_1 2012/06/21 23:28:14
    NO, SH Should NOT allow Death Threats
    Kronan_1
    +1
    threatenIng the life of a saitting potus is a federal offense regardless of the party affiliation.
  • 'Zedd 2012/06/21 21:20:27
  • Jim 2012/06/21 21:10:59
    NO, SH Should NOT allow Death Threats
    Jim
    +3
    I'm no fan of Obama, but under no circumstance should the life of him or any POTUS be threatened. Soda Head should not allow any one to threaten the life of any one else. The First Amendment only goes so far. You can't shout fire in a crowded theater if there is no fire, etc.
  • Che Gue... Jim 2012/06/21 21:17:55
    Che Guevara - Hero
    Amen !
  • J 2012/06/21 20:44:27
    YES, Death Threats are OKAY
    J
    +2
    If they allowed the threats against other Presidents.
    But wishing someone were dead, or dropped off the face of the earth, are NOT death threats.
    I don't think anyone should get aways with TRULY making death threats against anyone, but just making a comment about someone dying, being killed, or whatever isn't a "threat."

    "Threatening the President of the United States is a class D felony under United States Code Title 18, Section 871. It consists of knowingly and willfully mailing or otherwise making "any threat to take the life of, to kidnap, or to inflict bodily harm upon the President of the United States". "
  • Che Gue... J 2012/06/21 21:14:20 (edited)
    Che Guevara - Hero
    +2
    When a person says we need to take the President out and Hang him until he is dead. That is definitely a threat. It is pretty sad that you can call yourself an American and think that it is okay to threaten President Obama with Death. I'm sure that Al Qaeda would welcome you and your Teabagger Butt Buddies with open arms. The US Military are killing scum like you in Afghanistan ever day.

    traitor
  • J Che Gue... 2012/06/25 16:28:21
    J
    +1
    Did you disapprove of the same things being said about Bush? Be honest now!


    Bush beheaded
  • Jo 2012/06/21 20:15:46
    NO, SH Should NOT allow Death Threats
    Jo
    +3
    no, and more than one person on here has been turned in to national security for it, as well they should be. they better hope I dont run across any comments like that--I'll turn them in in a heartbeat.
  • LittleMistersMom 2012/06/21 19:12:42
    NO, SH Should NOT allow Death Threats
    LittleMistersMom
    +3
    And I'm pretty sure I know the thread that you're talking about. Some people really show their ignorance on the internet. And what aggravates me the most, is that it's always the "older" men, who also coincidentally bitch about the "younger" generation having no respect, yadda, yadda, yadda....
  • American Mercenary 2012/06/21 18:27:33
    NO, SH Should NOT allow Death Threats
    American Mercenary
    +1
    It's more important that WE do not allow it.
  • Nikki 2012/06/21 18:26:11
    NO, SH Should NOT allow Death Threats
    Nikki
    +1
    I'm a pretty down to earth drama free person.......i've seeing alot of hatred and crazy obsessed folks and that's why i don't answer most political questions on here... i don't want anything to do with spreading hate.......
  • Sister Jean 2012/06/21 18:15:51
    NO, SH Should NOT allow Death Threats
    Sister Jean
  • Heavy 2012/06/21 18:06:37
    YES, Death Threats are OKAY
    Heavy
    +1
    What are they gonna do about it?
  • Jo Heavy 2012/06/21 20:17:06
    Jo
    +1
    turn thier sorry asses in; the secret service investigates ALL of that crap.
  • Heavy Jo 2012/06/22 22:56:08
    Heavy
    What if they threaten someone who isn't the president. It's been ruled that it is all protected by the first amendment.
  • Jo Heavy 2012/06/23 04:03:37 (edited)
    Jo
    +1
    no, it hasnt---thats why its illegal; threatening anyone's life can totally get you in hot water, but its worse with the president; threats against the president are ALWAYS taken seriously, while threats among civilians are viewed more on a case to case basis; they're more likely to be dismissed as not credible, whereas with the president, they dont take chances. And bear in mind that the first ammendment was designed for political speech, and everbody knows it, but we've got all these idiots that hide behind it in order to try and justify saying something incredibly stupid; it doesnt give you the right to say absolutely whatever you want at any given time with no repercussions.
  • Heavy Jo 2012/06/23 04:15:56
    Heavy
    It has been ruled as protected, happened right after obama got elected and a guy posted on youtube that he was going to kill the president. He threatened, it was debated, the ruling was that it is protected. They can only do something if you actually try to kill the president or are part of a know group that is an enemy of the state.
  • Jo Heavy 2012/06/23 04:52:58
    Jo
    +1
    not true.
  • Mr. Won... Heavy 2012/06/23 23:14:03
    Mr. Wonderful
    +1
    You don't have a clue. Threatening the life of any government official is serious crime under federal law. Threatening the President of the United States is a felony under Title 18 U.S.C. § 871, punishable by 5 years of imprisonment, that is investigated by the United States Secret Service.
  • Che Gue... Heavy 2012/06/21 21:17:15
    Che Guevara - Hero
    +1
    Threaten the POTUS and find out tough guy.
  • Jo Che Gue... 2012/06/23 04:53:31
    Jo
    lol! yeah, really:))
  • J.W. Howler 2012/06/21 17:27:27
    NO, SH Should NOT allow Death Threats
    J.W. Howler
    +3
    No...But, neither should posts like this be allowed that are attempting to imply that REAL, provable threats ARE being allowed.

    And that is what this post is really about.
  • Jo J.W. Ho... 2012/06/21 20:18:10
    Jo
    +1
    ALL threats against the president seriously, and these Obama-bashing psychopaths would do well to remember that.
  • J.W. Ho... Jo 2012/06/21 20:26:14 (edited)
    J.W. Howler
    +4
    Want to show me some?...Obama is a disgrace to humanity on his best day.

    Post or link to some examples of Obama "threats".

    You might as well understand that many people abhor this clown for a POTUS, and are not going to be scared to let their dissent and negative opinions of that trash be known.

    And, if someone or even YOU think the law has been broken with a POTUS threat, why don't you report it to law enforcement and let them decide if is worthy of follow-up?

    For me. I'll be bashing Obama until I die, whether he stays in office or not.

    I hope Obama lives a long, long life, but I will criticize and "bash" him everyday of it as long as I live.

    Hell, report me if it makes you feel better.
  • Jo J.W. Ho... 2012/06/21 20:33:54
    Jo
    +2
    I dont care who hates him, I dont care that you think he's "a disgrace to humanity", I dont care how many people "abhor" him, and I think its great that they arent going to be "scared" to let thier "dissent" and negative comments be known, because you know what? I have the # for both the local and national chapters of the secret service locked in my phone, I've used it and I'm not "scared" to use it again:))

    You can bash him till the cows come home (nobody cares anyway, its not like you people know what you're talking about), thats not the same thing as threatening his life.

    ALL threats against the presdient are taken seriously, and ALL are investigated (I spoken with them more than a few times).
  • J.W. Ho... Jo 2012/06/21 20:41:01 (edited)
    J.W. Howler
    +3
    SO, let's see the link to the threats you have reported from SH...And, if you have called the S.S. several times, and there has been no publicity about such threats (since there are supposed to be SO many...lol), then the S.S. probably thinks you more of a pain in the ass than anything else.

    Wow...I am starstruck and impressed...I am actually having online discourse with someone who reports "threats" to the Secret Service, (and has their numbers in her phone) about the sorry bastard called Barack Obama...lol


    Ooooooooh. mutley laughing gif
  • Jim J.W. Ho... 2012/06/21 21:18:26
    Jim
    +3
    The Secret Service will investigate her. It's very suspicious of so many phone calls from one person.
  • J.W. Ho... Jim 2012/06/21 21:24:48 (edited)
    J.W. Howler
    +1
    That's exactly what I have been told by some law enforcement friends of mine.
  • Jo Jim 2012/06/21 21:36:12
    Jo
    +1
    oh, please.....
  • Jo J.W. Ho... 2012/06/21 21:35:58
    Jo
    +1
    the comments are no longer on here, and there doesnt need to be publicity--that has nothing to do with it:))
  • J.W. Ho... Jo 2012/06/21 21:38:43 (edited)
    J.W. Howler
    +2
    If there had been established a pattern of REAL, noteworthy THREATS against the POTUS on this site, believe me...There WOULD be publicity about it.

    Nothing personal, but you are full of crap on this.

    I never stated there NEEDS to be publicity.
  • Jo J.W. Ho... 2012/06/21 21:42:42 (edited)
    Jo
    +1
    who said anything about an "established pattern"? There doesnt have to be a "pattern"---all it takes is a statement (thats what they've told me)One of my friends on here did the same thing--turned somebody in; and the S.S. contacted HIM wanting more information; EVERY SINGLE THREAT AGAINST THE POTUS IS TAKEN SERIOUSLY; and no, not all of those situations are publicized.
  • J.W. Ho... Jo 2012/06/21 21:47:46
    J.W. Howler
    +2
    If there seems to be coming from a particular website, a somewhat consistent report of threats against a POTUS, it will be publicized.

    And "every single threat being taken seriously" does not IMPLY, nor assert that every single threat is treated and PURSUED in the same way.

    Your still talking crap, but that's OK with me.
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