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Should Rep. Gabrielle Giffords Keep Her Seat?

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By most accounts, Democratic Arizona Rep. Gabrielle Giffords is making a remarkable recovery from a gunshot wound to the head sustained during deranged shooter Jared Loughner’s attack on January 8. In her latest bit of progress, Giffords reportedly was able to stand up from her bed and is expected to move to a rehabilitation center as early as this week.

And while her condition is still considered very serious and a setback could come at any time, some news outlets have already begun asking the sensitive question of what should become of Giffords’ House seat.

With a long and arduous road to recovery likely facing her, the conservative blog Frum Forum’s John S. Wilson asked, “There is no doubt her constituents mourn for her and her family. But does that mean they should also go without representation in Congress? Certainly not.”

He pointed to Arizona state law, which holds that if an office holder is unable to “discharge the duties of office for the period of three consecutive months, the office shall be deemed vacant and at such time, a special election could be called to fill the opening.”

But, as The Washington Post pointed out, the law does not apply to Giffords’ situation or to members of Congress. The U.S. Constitution is responsible for laying out the qualifications for service in Congress and the House is the sole judge of those qualification.

“Legally, it’s not a close call,” political law expert Brian Svoboda told the paper. “You have a history of interpreting these constitutional decisions and the courts have consistently struck down state laws that have tried to impose additional qualifications beyond those that are set forth in the Constitution.”

If she stays on, Giffords would not be the first incapacitated member of Congress to stay on despite a grave injury or illness. Slate magazine ran down the long history of other members of Congress who’ve stayed in their roles despite being unavailable for votes. The sole exception is when Rep. Gladys Spellman of Maryland suffered a heart attack and slipped into a coma in 1980 the day before Election Day. She won re-election, but after a few months doctors said she was unlikely to recover and her family agreed to vacate her seat.

Using the Spellman case as an example, less than two weeks after Giffords’ attempted assassination Wilson asked, “Is this how it should be? Should constituents allow members to hold onto their seats like political Brett Favres with no concept of when it is time to go?”

He suggested that Congress should take up the issue of Giffords’ seat immediately and in consultation with her family and Republican Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer come to an “appropriate remedy.”
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  • Neal 2011/06/20 21:44:19
    Yes
    Neal
    Hope she makes a full recovery! Remarkable will and determination that although I don't agree with her politics, she has my full support!
  • Adrianna 2011/05/17 14:16:38
    No
    Adrianna
    The people in her district did not elect a brain damaged candidate. She should be replaced. If she wants to run for office again under the flag of her new situation, then more power to her. This is an unwilling and totally innocent form of bait and switch. She did not ask for it, but the people that voted her into office deserve to get what they voted for - a fully functioning representative.
  • Moonage 2011/05/17 14:13:31
    Yes
    Moonage
    It's ONLY up to the voters of her district and herself whether she should keep her seat. Everyone else really has no business sticking their nose in it.
  • JimShou 2011/04/26 15:42:34
    Yes
    JimShou
    Yes,,,,She is the one good thing that the Democrats have going for them....maybe she can start the movement to"Change" this party back to the real American Democratic Party.
  • Becky 2011/04/25 20:25:41
    Yes
    Becky
    +1
    If SHE feels like she can do her job, let her do her job! IF not let her husband take her seat when he comes back from his SPACE trip!
  • frank 2011/04/25 18:29:21
    Yes
    frank
    My son was in a horrible accident many years ago. One young man was thrown from the car and had massive brain injury. After about 1 year he was doing things no one thought he would ever be able to do again. For many years now he has not only gone back to the job he had he has worked two jobs at a time. If you know him well you can tell that he has had some kind of injury otherwise no one suspects he was ever injured so bad.
  • BIGK27 2011/04/25 18:04:14
    Undecided
    BIGK27
    +1
    Extreme physical head traumas such as Gabrielle's are almost impossible to fully recover from.
  • New Jersey Mom 2011/02/06 20:12:05 (edited)
    Yes
    New Jersey Mom
    I am a lifelong Republican, and I think that the seat should remain open until the end of Ms. Gifford's term. It will be up to the other Democrats to abide by whatever procedural protocol is to be followed, in the event that a Representative is temporarily incapacitated and unable to perform his or her duties.
    There may need to be a provision enacted whereby an individual is appointed to serve by proxy.

    To require that Giffords step down is to play right into the hands of nut jobs like Laughner and any would-be copycats. Unfortuntely, there haven't been stories in the press about an increase in "nut patrol," wherby loose cannons like Laughner are identified to law enforcement, rounded up and detained pending evaluation. Accordingly, such "reward" of bad behvior must be avoided.
  • MarinerFH 2011/01/24 02:54:43
    Undecided
    MarinerFH
    +1
    The Constitution has no provision for this, but her District deserves to be represented.. It will be a long time before she can do her duties, if ever. It's sad, but she needs to step down for the good of her constituents.
  • carlene 2011/01/22 15:33:17
    Yes
    carlene
    Well they wheeled Byrd in to vote on issues.
  • RogerRover 2011/01/22 03:03:55
    Yes
    RogerRover
    Do as the law allows. Thanking God for her recocery. Probably on her worst day, she'd do better than just pushing the 'present' button.
  • CaliGurl 2011/01/22 02:18:50
    Yes
    CaliGurl
    +3
    Wow... Look at all the narrow-minded people. Victimizing her once wasn't enough for the Republicans?
  • JimShou CaliGurl 2011/04/26 22:03:08
    JimShou
    +2
    WOW!!!!! Liberalism is a dangerous mental illness.................. call your Doctor quickly.... or head to the nearess emergency room
  • CaliGurl JimShou 2011/04/26 22:19:37
    CaliGurl
    67% of people believe she should keep her seat... you are in the minority.
  • voice_matters 2011/01/21 21:18:29
    Undecided
    voice_matters
    I do not know the laws so i am not sure when she needs to return to congress before she needs to resign her seat.

    the majority of the posts on this thread are the same boring political crap. wish people were as interested in suporting the laws then their own political ideology.
  • rasputan 2011/01/21 19:50:38
    Yes
    rasputan
    +2
    Sounds like she is capable of doing her job at least as well or better, than Reid, Pelosi and most of the other Democrats in Congress.
    Plus she has the ability to improve with time.
  • Tom 2011/01/21 19:47:56
    No
    Tom
    +2
    No, she should not keep her seat if she is unable to return to her elected position within the time frame allowed under AZ law. AZ should follow the law and elect a new US representative. Assuming she were replaced, if and when Rep Giffords recovers and wishes to return to the US House she has the same recourse any candidate has - file and run. If she decided she could and wanted to run for the House if replaced, she would be a shoo in, too.
  • JohnDav... Tom 2011/01/21 20:43:12
    JohnDavidBurling
    +1
    AZ law doesn't give a time frame she must return to the seat, it gives a time frame at which they can declare her seat vacant. And that is two and a half months away at least, and if she even just sits in those halls during a session and she is counted on the rolls as present for even part of a day during that time frame the count down starts over.

    She is the ELECTED official, and even though she is a dem, I would rather see her step back into her seat than someone APPOINTED to sit in her place. (Even though since they have a conservative Governor the appointy may do a better job.)
  • Tom JohnDav... 2011/01/22 00:21:48
    Tom
    +1
    AZ law does not allow for the appointment of a replacement, rather a special election is required. Sadly she will not be recovered anywhere well enough to sit in the hall and be counted anytime soon. I think the state of AZ should follow the law on their books and not make an exception. Exceptions set precedents and one is not warranted now.
  • JohnDav... Tom 2011/01/22 01:23:05
    JohnDavidBurling
    +1
    Its not an exception, they are allowed to make a replacement, not required to.
  • Tom JohnDav... 2011/01/22 03:19:16
    Tom
    If it is an option to not replace her due to her inability to serve then I stand corrected.
  • JohnDav... Tom 2011/01/22 05:39:30 (edited)
    JohnDavidBurling
    It happens, but personally in two and a half months there will be plenty of time to get a grasp of rather or not she will be ever be able to perform her duties again, and if she will rather not it will be in a time frame that the Arizona people would be happy with. Because long and short of it is, what do the people of Arizona want and what can they accept time wise is the only things the governor can consider.

    BTW They can appoint a someone if she is going to have an extended recovery or to sit in her place between the deadline and when they can have a speacial election to fill her seat.
  • Wolfman 2011/01/21 19:47:36
    Yes
    Wolfman
    +1
    I'm praying for a speedy recovery.
  • CODE 11 2011/01/21 19:42:36
    Yes
    CODE 11
    +1
    She was shot in the line of duty..she should surly keep her seat.
  • beachbum 2011/01/21 19:37:08
    Yes
    beachbum
    +1
    Why not?
  • RockyMtGirl BN 2011/01/21 19:00:17
    Yes
    RockyMtGirl BN
    Not even a full two weeks and that idiot Frum is already shoving her out of her seat! These moronic pundits have no shame!
    She's predicted to make full if not close to full recovery and based on reports, miraculously quicker than expected! Don't know what it's going to take for this out-of-control rightwing to start acting like civil adults at the very least. I've yet to see any sign of warm consideration from any of the rightwingers.
  • beachbum RockyMt... 2011/01/21 19:38:45
    beachbum
    +1
    Well, you are seeing it now - I'm conservative and I see no reason for her to lose her seat, so you might want to reconsider your statement.
  • RockyMt... beachbum 2011/01/22 03:20:44
    RockyMtGirl BN
    +1
    You have my apologies; I actually saw several kind remarks from our Rightwing friends.
    Thanks.
  • beachbum RockyMt... 2011/01/22 03:33:18
    beachbum
    You betcha.

    This country has become so decisive that it's scary, and it's almost like everyone expects the other is going to be hateful. Sad, sad commentary on what is happening. Everyone should be working to find common ground, and moving toward the middle instead of both sides of the aisle instead of moving to polar opposites. I personally just don't understand it.

    Have a great weekend, and stay warm.
  • CODE 11 RockyMt... 2011/01/21 19:45:44
    CODE 11
    +1
    I repeat she was shot in the line of duty. I wouldn't vote for her..but she keeps her seat, until she advises she doesn't want it or the next election
  • Semper Fi 2011/01/21 18:31:22
    Yes
    Semper Fi
    +8
    I see the LWNJ vultures are circling already.

    lwnj vultures circling vultures circling
  • $$*gat*$$ BL39 2011/01/21 18:25:50
    Yes
    $$*gat*$$ BL39
    +1
    NO, I hit yes by mistake and this blog does not let you fix it
    politicains are civil servants and if one is wounded such as she is, how can she serve AZ, she may not be ready for a few years, if ever, why are people still making this a republican issue this is an issue of law and responsibility.
  • Wayne 2011/01/21 18:10:52
    No
    Wayne
    +3
    Even though I am extremely sorry for what happened to her, let her go get well and open the seat for a conservative to help correct the ill of the naive liberals and disgusting progressives and socialists to help turn our country around. I pray for Ms Giffords and that the American people wake up to the divisionist two party system and stand for a United America!
  • RockyMt... Wayne 2011/01/21 19:06:32
    RockyMtGirl BN
    I guess you haven't kept up with the circus going on and being led by Boehner lately? I'd say "entertaining" but it's more a display of pathetic 'chickens with their heads cut off' not even showing any viable plans for their agenda; no plans for job creations as he promised to his constituents; no alternative plan for the laughable "Faux-Repeal" they just voted on; and on and on and on.... such a joke of a Leader Boehner turned out to be.
    AND the only group dividing this United America is your party; funny, the majority has noted this but you haven't.
  • beachbum RockyMt... 2011/01/21 19:40:18
    beachbum
    +2
    Will have to disagree with you again - BOTH parties are dividing this country.
  • RockyMt... beachbum 2011/01/22 03:27:59
    RockyMtGirl BN
    How often has Boehner declined when he was asked by the President, 1) to the first dinner meeting after the election; 2) to attend the Arizona Walke for the victims and fly with the President on Airforce One, 3) to attend the State Dinner with the President and President Hu of China... this is just a sample of how Boehner continues to divide the parties. He's supposed to be a Leader... he should leade by example. tell me you think this is good leadership?
  • Wolfman RockyMt... 2011/01/21 19:50:41
    Wolfman
    +1
    He certainly kept his promise to repeal the job-killing Obamacare. I hope he does it every month.
  • RockyMt... Wolfman 2011/01/22 03:24:37 (edited)
    RockyMtGirl BN
    That's actually not true... they learned the first day in office that the Repeal would add 230 Billion to the deficit; that the "job killing" portion of the bill title was false, the HCR bill actually has added a ton of jobs, and so many other reasons why the Repeal wouldn't work. So they decided they owed something to the people they promised this to (probably the Corporations) and held this Repeal hearing as a symbol to that promise. There's no way the Repeal will go through.
  • Wolfman RockyMt... 2011/01/22 06:48:43
    Wolfman
    The CBO is like a computer - garbage in, garbage out. The figures that show that the repeal would add $230B to the deficet came from the same place that showed that Obamacare would reduce the deficet - the Obama camp. Both figures have been debunked by the Republican camp. So who are you going to believe? Do you really believe that Obamacare costing $3.2T is going to reduce the deficet? Really?
  • RockyMt... Wolfman 2011/01/22 17:21:37
    RockyMtGirl BN
    The republican camp will debunk anything or anyone that doesn't benefit their agenda.
    They went in with "cutting down the deficit" as point 1 and "job creating" as point 2; what's the first thing they do? Raise the deficit by 430 Billion to give extensions on Tax Cuts to the very wealthy! And where's the jobs? Nothing on their agenda to create jobs. Obama is doing all the work with no cooperation from the moronic Right.
    You have to keep up with the news, HLC bill will literally save trillions over 10 years.
    And the CBO findings are what Legislation has used for decades - now because the numbers don't satisfy the Republicans - they complain. It suited them before. The extremists are such a joke and I am so glad people are starting to see what they voted for! No wonder their approval rating is decreasing fast.
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