First and formost, a quote form Jefferson.
“If people let the government decide what foods they eat and what medicines they take, their bodies will soon be in as sorry a state as the souls who live under tyranny.”
You should never allow anyone to decide for you what medicines you should take. Never.
Second. Its a myth that shots are mandatory. Officials often lie and say its the law and that you must take the shots or have a waiver. The reality is, you dont even need the waiver.
Its a myth that not vaccinating your child puts others at risk. Assuming the science behind vaccinations is correct, that would mean that vaccinating yourself would make you immune and you should not need to fear unvaccinated people. The only exception might be babies, but if you're that afraid of viruses that were in decline before the vaccines were introduced, keep your child indoors. You dont have the right to forcefully inject other people with any substance.
Also, what about the health risks of taking vaccines? Especially ones like Gardasil (scientists are still finding more and more adverse effects)? Are those worth considering? What about the fact that the CDC's own numbers show flu shots are only about 1% or 1.4% effective, and many vaccines like the H1N1 vaccine are shown in independent studies to ...
“If people let the government decide what foods they eat and what medicines they take, their bodies will soon be in as sorry a state as the souls who live under tyranny.”
You should never allow anyone to decide for you what medicines you should take. Never.
Second. Its a myth that shots are mandatory. Officials often lie and say its the law and that you must take the shots or have a waiver. The reality is, you dont even need the waiver.
Its a myth that not vaccinating your child puts others at risk. Assuming the science behind vaccinations is correct, that would mean that vaccinating yourself would make you immune and you should not need to fear unvaccinated people. The only exception might be babies, but if you're that afraid of viruses that were in decline before the vaccines were introduced, keep your child indoors. You dont have the right to forcefully inject other people with any substance.
Also, what about the health risks of taking vaccines? Especially ones like Gardasil (scientists are still finding more and more adverse effects)? Are those worth considering? What about the fact that the CDC's own numbers show flu shots are only about 1% or 1.4% effective, and many vaccines like the H1N1 vaccine are shown in independent studies to ...
First and formost, a quote form Jefferson.
“If people let the government decide what foods they eat and what medicines they take, their bodies will soon be in as sorry a state as the souls who live under tyranny.”
You should never allow anyone to decide for you what medicines you should take. Never.
Second. Its a myth that shots are mandatory. Officials often lie and say its the law and that you must take the shots or have a waiver. The reality is, you dont even need the waiver.
Its a myth that not vaccinating your child puts others at risk. Assuming the science behind vaccinations is correct, that would mean that vaccinating yourself would make you immune and you should not need to fear unvaccinated people. The only exception might be babies, but if you're that afraid of viruses that were in decline before the vaccines were introduced, keep your child indoors. You dont have the right to forcefully inject other people with any substance.
Also, what about the health risks of taking vaccines? Especially ones like Gardasil (scientists are still finding more and more adverse effects)? Are those worth considering? What about the fact that the CDC's own numbers show flu shots are only about 1% or 1.4% effective, and many vaccines like the H1N1 vaccine are shown in independent studies to increase your risk of being infected by other strains of flu? What about the fact that former FDA officials say only less than 2% or 1% of all vaccine adverse reactions are ever reported? What about all the fetal material, mercury, aluminum and other materials added to vaccines?
Is all of this worth temporary immunity to a virus? And yes, its only temporary. Thats why you need a booster shot every so often.
Hell, the questions dont stop there. Even if most vaccines are good, what if the government starts catering to special interests, and starts mandating vaccines like gardasil? A vaccine designed for adults only, being mandated for little girls, and now being recommended for boys that dont even have a cervix?
My god this is just one huge mess.
(more)“If people let the government decide what foods they eat and what medicines they take, their bodies will soon be in as sorry a state as the souls who live under tyranny.”
You should never allow anyone to decide for you what medicines you should take. Never.
Second. Its a myth that shots are mandatory. Officials often lie and say its the law and that you must take the shots or have a waiver. The reality is, you dont even need the waiver.
Its a myth that not vaccinating your child puts others at risk. Assuming the science behind vaccinations is correct, that would mean that vaccinating yourself would make you immune and you should not need to fear unvaccinated people. The only exception might be babies, but if you're that afraid of viruses that were in decline before the vaccines were introduced, keep your child indoors. You dont have the right to forcefully inject other people with any substance.
Also, what about the health risks of taking vaccines? Especially ones like Gardasil (scientists are still finding more and more adverse effects)? Are those worth considering? What about the fact that the CDC's own numbers show flu shots are only about 1% or 1.4% effective, and many vaccines like the H1N1 vaccine are shown in independent studies to increase your risk of being infected by other strains of flu? What about the fact that former FDA officials say only less than 2% or 1% of all vaccine adverse reactions are ever reported? What about all the fetal material, mercury, aluminum and other materials added to vaccines?
Is all of this worth temporary immunity to a virus? And yes, its only temporary. Thats why you need a booster shot every so often.
Hell, the questions dont stop there. Even if most vaccines are good, what if the government starts catering to special interests, and starts mandating vaccines like gardasil? A vaccine designed for adults only, being mandated for little girls, and now being recommended for boys that dont even have a cervix?
My god this is just one huge mess.


















you're letting this whole media-hype curve your reasoning :-\
either way this thread ends up, i'm going to back out of it and wish you a very nice day. thanks for taking the time to comment. :)
The "standard" innoculations, DPT, Measles, Polio, and a few others have been shown to have a major positive affect on the health of society.
vaccinations are physically and philosophically invasive and parents, being ultimately responsible for the welfare and privacy of their child's body, should have ultimate determination as to whether an invasive procedure is done on their son or daughter.
The stuff in the vaccines are crap anyway. Several of my family's friends are doctors and I've heard from more than one that they wouldn't even inject their dogs with that stuff. My grandmother's a nurse and she even advised my mom to stop taking us to get vaccinated.
I haven't been vaccinated in I can't remember how long, and I'm perfectly fine. Same for my brother and sister. My brother hasn't been sick in like 8 years.
It's no biggie.
On the one hand, i wouldn't want someone's little snot monster running around infecting my kids with their infestations.
On the other hand, who knows what kind of bizarre social experiments our government is running.
Has anyone ever thought about giving Medicine statehood? You know, like the Vatican, without celebrity damnation and funky looking security guards, and for saving people's lives without government interference.
Wait... is that Marxist?
SO LET ME GET THIS STRAIGHT - IF YOU VACCINATE YOUR KID HE/SHE IS NOW IMMUNE, RIGHT? So not vaccinating my kid puts MY kid at risk. I'm the parent of my kid so how does that pose a danger to anyone else?
YOU WILL FORCIBLY VACCINATE MY KID OVER MY DEAD BODY
OK?
Are you NUTS?
So you are against vaccinations? Odds of getting sick from them are much lower than dying from the disease.
never been sick with any of the things they vaccinate you against! I have never
had a flu shot & will not take one. I have had the flu a couple of times & not
been as sick as 2 of my friends who took the flu shot.
I would MUCH rather go down in a hail of bullets but I would prefer a shot in my skull at close range. That would be quickest.
In first world countries, herd immunity has been created because the majority of people opt for vaccination. There are certain health conditions which mean that some people should not receive certain vaccines, this is true. The best course of action is to be informed and to discuss the options with your doctor. Hopefully he or she will be open minded enough to do so realistically without shaming the parent for their choice.
You work in the medical field? Thats like a religion right?
A vaccine is like a sacred sacrament to the holy of molies?