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Should Parents Be Able to Opt Out of Mandatory Vaccinations for Their Children?

ABC News U.S. 2012/04/25 19:36:59
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  • Dan ☮ R P ☮ 2012 ☮ 2012/04/25 20:32:07 (edited)
    Yes, because parents should have the right not to vaccinate their children.
    Dan ☮ R P ☮ 2012 ☮
    +9
    First and formost, a quote form Jefferson.

    “If people let the government decide what foods they eat and what medicines they take, their bodies will soon be in as sorry a state as the souls who live under tyranny.”
    You should never allow anyone to decide for you what medicines you should take. Never.

    Second. Its a myth that shots are mandatory. Officials often lie and say its the law and that you must take the shots or have a waiver. The reality is, you dont even need the waiver.

    Its a myth that not vaccinating your child puts others at risk. Assuming the science behind vaccinations is correct, that would mean that vaccinating yourself would make you immune and you should not need to fear unvaccinated people. The only exception might be babies, but if you're that afraid of viruses that were in decline before the vaccines were introduced, keep your child indoors. You dont have the right to forcefully inject other people with any substance.



    Also, what about the health risks of taking vaccines? Especially ones like Gardasil (scientists are still finding more and more adverse effects)? Are those worth considering? What about the fact that the CDC's own numbers show flu shots are only about 1% or 1.4% effective, and many vaccines like the H1N1 vaccine are shown in independent studies to ...







    First and formost, a quote form Jefferson.

    “If people let the government decide what foods they eat and what medicines they take, their bodies will soon be in as sorry a state as the souls who live under tyranny.”
    You should never allow anyone to decide for you what medicines you should take. Never.

    Second. Its a myth that shots are mandatory. Officials often lie and say its the law and that you must take the shots or have a waiver. The reality is, you dont even need the waiver.

    Its a myth that not vaccinating your child puts others at risk. Assuming the science behind vaccinations is correct, that would mean that vaccinating yourself would make you immune and you should not need to fear unvaccinated people. The only exception might be babies, but if you're that afraid of viruses that were in decline before the vaccines were introduced, keep your child indoors. You dont have the right to forcefully inject other people with any substance.



    Also, what about the health risks of taking vaccines? Especially ones like Gardasil (scientists are still finding more and more adverse effects)? Are those worth considering? What about the fact that the CDC's own numbers show flu shots are only about 1% or 1.4% effective, and many vaccines like the H1N1 vaccine are shown in independent studies to increase your risk of being infected by other strains of flu? What about the fact that former FDA officials say only less than 2% or 1% of all vaccine adverse reactions are ever reported? What about all the fetal material, mercury, aluminum and other materials added to vaccines?

    Is all of this worth temporary immunity to a virus? And yes, its only temporary. Thats why you need a booster shot every so often.



    Hell, the questions dont stop there. Even if most vaccines are good, what if the government starts catering to special interests, and starts mandating vaccines like gardasil? A vaccine designed for adults only, being mandated for little girls, and now being recommended for boys that dont even have a cervix?

    My god this is just one huge mess.
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  • aherbert 2012/04/29 22:21:09
    Yes, because parents should have the right not to vaccinate their children.
    aherbert
    Parents should be able to make that call ...
  • sherdon2 2012/04/29 16:19:43
    Yes, because parents should have the right not to vaccinate their children.
    sherdon2
    Yes, and it depends on what the vacination is for and has it been approved.
  • La 2012/04/29 08:43:00
    Yes, because parents should have the right not to vaccinate their children.
    La
    +1
    Yes. Some vaccinations contribute to cancer. No one should be forced to get them.
  • Playerazzi 2012/04/29 08:26:36
    No, because it poses a health risk to everyone else.
    Playerazzi
    If they opt out, then the kid should be quarantined.
  • Party o... Playerazzi 2012/04/29 09:29:54
    Party of One
    +1
    based on what, self-induced paranoia? why not round up the the rest of the community, just in case...

    you're letting this whole media-hype curve your reasoning :-\
  • Playerazzi Party o... 2012/04/29 13:55:32
    Playerazzi
    +1
    If someone is not vaccinated, he presents a potential health hazard.
  • Party o... Playerazzi 2012/04/29 19:21:44
    Party of One
    everything in this world is a "potential" health hazard - honest-to-god, everything - but we need to separate "potential" (possible) from "very likely" (probable) before deciding to agree to a practice such as this; personal histories have indicated that there's a lot lower risk to human life than the media, commerce, and government is purporting, okay? i'm only suggesting you base your determinations on real-life instances, not those statistics that are fed to you through outside concerns...they usually have an agenda.

    either way this thread ends up, i'm going to back out of it and wish you a very nice day. thanks for taking the time to comment. :)
  • Playerazzi Party o... 2012/04/30 07:59:24
    Playerazzi
    +1
    I am.

    The "standard" innoculations, DPT, Measles, Polio, and a few others have been shown to have a major positive affect on the health of society.
  • Party of One 2012/04/29 06:30:45 (edited)
    Yes, because parents should have the right not to vaccinate their children.
    Party of One
    +1
    there are always health risks unless people live in a bubble, some for which school environments have been responsible...the "health risk" scare is an absurd subterfuge, in this case.

    vaccinations are physically and philosophically invasive and parents, being ultimately responsible for the welfare and privacy of their child's body, should have ultimate determination as to whether an invasive procedure is done on their son or daughter.
  • les_gvt 2012/04/29 02:32:00
    Yes, because parents should have the right not to vaccinate their children.
    les_gvt
    +1
    NEWS FLASH- the child belongs to the parents- NOT THE GOVERNMENT
  • darlene 2012/04/28 23:36:42
    Yes, because parents should have the right not to vaccinate their children.
    darlene
  • Kerymi 2012/04/28 22:14:19
    Yes, because parents should have the right not to vaccinate their children.
    Kerymi
    +2
    Vaccinations are overrated. The government and media have scared people into being afraid to NOT get them (for whatever reasons, I don't know), and, in fact, skipping them doesn't even make a difference, or might even be for the better.
    The stuff in the vaccines are crap anyway. Several of my family's friends are doctors and I've heard from more than one that they wouldn't even inject their dogs with that stuff. My grandmother's a nurse and she even advised my mom to stop taking us to get vaccinated.
    I haven't been vaccinated in I can't remember how long, and I'm perfectly fine. Same for my brother and sister. My brother hasn't been sick in like 8 years.
    It's no biggie.
  • Rachel ~In HP I Trust~ 2012/04/28 21:32:41
    Yes, because parents should have the right not to vaccinate their children.
    Rachel ~In HP I Trust~
    +1
    The government shouldn't tell you or your children what medicines to take. This is the same as the statuatory "rape" crap. Just because I date a 20 year old and I am 16 does NOT mean we are having sex. And even if we did, it wouldn't be anyone's damn business!People act like I'm going to blow up because my boyfriend is 4 years older than me. We are responsible and mature, more than most teens/young adults.
  • strange_armour 2012/04/28 21:09:28
    Yes, because parents should have the right not to vaccinate their children.
    strange_armour
    +1
    Vaccine is just another word for death
  • Met 2012/04/28 18:37:46
    No, because it poses a health risk to everyone else.
    Met
    This is a toughy.

    On the one hand, i wouldn't want someone's little snot monster running around infecting my kids with their infestations.

    On the other hand, who knows what kind of bizarre social experiments our government is running.

    Has anyone ever thought about giving Medicine statehood? You know, like the Vatican, without celebrity damnation and funky looking security guards, and for saving people's lives without government interference.

    Wait... is that Marxist?
  • Chaya2010 2012/04/28 18:30:52
    No, because it poses a health risk to everyone else.
    Chaya2010
    I think its criminally irresponsible for parents not to have their children vaccinated my girls have gone had some of theirs. By not vaccinating ones child(ren) you put them and others in danger.
  • mk, Smartass Oracle 2012/04/28 18:19:38
    Yes, because parents should have the right not to vaccinate their children.
    mk, Smartass Oracle
    +4
    I'm convinced vaccinations often do more harm than good.



    Big Pharma
  • kilroy 2012/04/28 17:46:26
    Yes, because parents should have the right not to vaccinate their children.
    kilroy
  • Nam Era Vet #1 DNA TLC 2012/04/28 17:37:54
    Yes, because parents should have the right not to vaccinate their children.
    Nam Era Vet #1 DNA TLC
    +3
    Because some of those vaccines have things in them such as squaline and other things that are bad for children.
  • \V/ 2012/04/28 17:12:04
    Yes, because parents should have the right not to vaccinate their children.
    \V/
    +4
    I signed waivers to not vaccinate my kids.

    SO LET ME GET THIS STRAIGHT - IF YOU VACCINATE YOUR KID HE/SHE IS NOW IMMUNE, RIGHT? So not vaccinating my kid puts MY kid at risk. I'm the parent of my kid so how does that pose a danger to anyone else?

    YOU WILL FORCIBLY VACCINATE MY KID OVER MY DEAD BODY

    OK?


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  • Sister Jean 2012/04/28 16:49:05
    Yes, because parents should have the right not to vaccinate their children.
    Sister Jean
  • ehrhornp 2012/04/28 16:45:46
    No, because it poses a health risk to everyone else.
    ehrhornp
    The last thing this country needs is a comeback of old diseases that are largely gone today.
  • \V/ ehrhornp 2012/04/28 17:14:34
    \V/
    +3
    Old diseases? Where would those come from? Lack of indoor plumbing? Washing your hands? No refrigeration? Dirt floors? Open sewers?

    Are you NUTS?
  • ehrhornp \V/ 2012/04/28 17:25:44
    ehrhornp
    People coming from foreign lands. If America is not protected the disease could spread like wildfire.

    So you are against vaccinations? Odds of getting sick from them are much lower than dying from the disease.
  • Little ... ehrhornp 2012/04/28 17:43:24
    Little Angel
    +2
    Wrong! My Son is allergic to one of the vaccines they want you to take. He has
    never been sick with any of the things they vaccinate you against! I have never
    had a flu shot & will not take one. I have had the flu a couple of times & not
    been as sick as 2 of my friends who took the flu shot.
  • ehrhornp Little ... 2012/04/28 17:46:50
    ehrhornp
    I agree with you on the flue shot. But the flue is generally not deadly while some of the things people are vaccinated against are or at least very damaging. Polio for instance. This is close to being eliminated but won't be if people don't take it where it is still around.
  • \V/ ehrhornp 2012/04/28 18:26:09
  • ehrhornp \V/ 2012/04/29 02:12:39
  • **StarzAbove** 2012/04/28 16:19:01
    No, because it poses a health risk to everyone else.
    **StarzAbove**
    +3
    No, everyone should be vaccinated for their own safety and the safety of others.
  • \V/ **Starz... 2012/04/28 17:17:22
    \V/
    +1
    Anyone that trys to vaccinate me/or my kids is not going to be safe. I will shoot their ass.
    I would MUCH rather go down in a hail of bullets but I would prefer a shot in my skull at close range. That would be quickest.
  • **Starz... \V/ 2012/04/28 17:20:14 (edited)
    **StarzAbove**
    +1
    And you will go to jail.
  • \V/ **Starz... 2012/04/28 18:29:48
    \V/
    +2
    I'd rather go directly to a refigerator with a toe tag. Thanks
  • **Starz... \V/ 2012/04/28 18:32:10
    **StarzAbove**
    +1
    And then your kids would get vaccinated. Good thinking, Pal.

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  • \V/ **Starz... 2012/04/28 18:49:19
    \V/
    +2
    Too late. The youngest one is 19 and never vaccinated. I had 6 altogether.
  • \V/ **Starz... 2012/04/28 17:18:05
  • Pat 2012/04/28 16:14:00
    No, because it poses a health risk to everyone else.
    Pat
    +2
    No, because children who are not vaccinated pose a real health threat to others. I also think that the medical profession and the regulatory agencies need to be very cautious and selective in choosing which vaccinations will be mandatory. I think that many parents who don't vaccinate their children are afraid of possible side effects from the shot. In fact, there may be side effects from some of them but you have to weigh that against the benefits of not getting the full blown disease.
  • RoseyRhod 2012/04/28 15:15:00
    Yes, because parents should have the right not to vaccinate their children.
    RoseyRhod
    +1
    However, I think that everyone should take the time to educate themselves about the diseases these vaccines prevent. I work in the medical field. Many of the diseases that these vaccines prevent are so awful that the vaccine is worth the risk. Most of the time people do not have any major adverse reaction to the vaccine. Read about what tetanus does. I sure as hell would not want to take the chance of that happening to me! In great part due to vaccination, smallpox has been eradicated in first world countries. Read up on smallpox. It is a horrible disease.
    In first world countries, herd immunity has been created because the majority of people opt for vaccination. There are certain health conditions which mean that some people should not receive certain vaccines, this is true. The best course of action is to be informed and to discuss the options with your doctor. Hopefully he or she will be open minded enough to do so realistically without shaming the parent for their choice.
  • \V/ RoseyRhod 2012/04/28 17:52:27
    \V/
    I want some tetanus! How do I get it? Ive been trying for years!
    You work in the medical field? Thats like a religion right?
    A vaccine is like a sacred sacrament to the holy of molies?
  • irish -liberty or death! 2012/04/27 12:57:57
    Yes, because parents should have the right not to vaccinate their children.
    irish -liberty or death!
    +3
    are not parents responsible for protecting their child?

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