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Should Non-Citizens in Gay Marriages Be Allowed to Stay in the U.S.?

SodaHead News 2011/07/01 19:00:00
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On the heels of New York's passage of a gay marriage law, comes the story of Henry Velandia.

The 27-year-old gay Venezuelan dancer was facing deportation, despite being legally married to his same-sex partner in Connecticut. Unfortunately for him, they lived in New Jersey, where same-sex marriage is not legal. Velandia asked to remain in the U.S. as the spouse of a legal citizen, Josh Vandiver, a 30-year-old graduate student at Princeton University.

But, because of the Defense of Marriage Act, which defines marriage as between a man and a woman, Vandiver was not allowed to sponsor Velandia for a green card, as a heterosexual person would have been able to for a spouse in the same situation.

When Velandia's visitor visa expired he was put into deportation proceedings, but the couple's attorney – who founded a group aimed at stopping the deportation of gay and lesbian spouses of Americans – filed to have the order canceled.

On Wednesday, Immigration and Customs Enforcement officials in New Jersey notified the couple that the deportation proceedings against Velandia were being stopped.

Though it's not a legal precedent, the case shined a light on the complex issues facing an estimated 36,000 gay and lesbian couples of mixed nationality in the U.S. and it marked the first case involving the spouse of a lesbian or gay American in which the Department of Homeland Security showed that it had some flexibility in evaluating these kinds of cases.

Do you agree with the court's decision to allow Velandia to stay in this country?
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  • Libby 2011/07/01 21:41:54
    Yes
    Libby
    +26
    If it's legal for a man to marry a mail order bride from Russia to make her a US citizen it should apply to gays as well.

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  • iamthem... Sexy Co... 2011/07/05 18:41:57
    iamthemob ~ the 444th Guru ~
    True. Ironically, however, it is these people like those at issue in this article, who have an actual viable claim to remaining, who are the most likely to be deported in the end, because they attempt to work within the system, and have entered as legal aliens under it.
  • sbtbill thє вlu... 2011/07/01 23:56:31
    sbtbill
    It's wrong to deport any spouse regardless of legal status. The spouse of a US citizen should automatically be a citizen. It is a violation of Biblical law and unChristian as well.
  • Mariann... thє вlu... 2011/07/02 09:53:46
    Marianne723
    Morals don't count anymore , huh?
  • dePSyChO Mariann... 2011/07/02 14:26:37
    dePSyChO
    Morals haven't counted for a long, long time. Possibly ever.
  • iamthem... thє вlu... 2011/07/03 08:55:41
    iamthemob ~ the 444th Guru ~
    Then did you mean to say yes?
  • FraidSkinkle 2011/07/01 23:29:20
  • Kigan 2011/07/01 23:27:49
    Yes
    Kigan
    +2
    If it applies to straight couples, it applies to gay couples too.
  • JAMES STAR BOY 2011/07/01 23:25:49
    No
    JAMES STAR BOY
    +1
    HELL NO WTF ARE YOU PEOPLE THINKING
  • Sexy Conservative 2011/07/01 23:25:26
    No
    Sexy Conservative
    +2
    No. They had plenty of warning his VISA was going to expire. It is not like that date sneaks up on people. Because you are an illegal citizen and the left wing politicans see you as a victim to use to their advantage does not mean the United States should automatically sign a federal amendement allowing gay marriage. If you are an illegal citizen over the age of 18 you already know you are breaking our laws.
    TAKE RESPONSIBILITY. DO THE RIGHT THING.
  • WshngMchn 2011/07/01 23:23:37
    Yes
    WshngMchn
    They should receive extra tax benefits, too.
  • Sexy Co... WshngMchn 2011/07/01 23:27:50
    Sexy Conservative
    Why in God's name should they recieve a tax benefit if they are an ILLEGALcitizen. Do you understand what Illegal means? You are one of the many reasons the country is running out of money.
  • WshngMchn Sexy Co... 2011/07/01 23:33:17 (edited)
    WshngMchn
    Illegal means the government doesn't like it. Are you a socialist? You sound like a socialist.
  • sbtbill WshngMchn 2011/07/01 23:58:06
    sbtbill
    A Socialist wouldn't take that way. Please do not insult Socialists by call Sexy Co one.
  • Friskyw... WshngMchn 2011/07/01 23:35:02
    Friskywhisky
    Why should they receive extra benefits? I completely disagree with that, but he should be allowed to stay since he married a citizen while visiting here on his visa.
  • WshngMchn Friskyw... 2011/07/01 23:37:53 (edited)
    WshngMchn
    +1
    Yeah, I don't actually believe they should get extra benefits. That's just how frustrated I am with all the no's.

    They should at least get a coupon to Denny's or something.
  • Friskyw... WshngMchn 2011/07/01 23:42:38
    Friskywhisky
    +1
    Yeah, it's stupid. -.-

    I see a lot of people saying he's an illegal immigrant which is total nonsense. He was here on a VISITORS VISA, what about that is illegal immigration? xD
  • Mariann... Friskyw... 2011/07/02 09:57:30
    Marianne723
    When the Visa expires he is illegal
  • Friskyw... Mariann... 2011/07/02 16:24:33
    Friskywhisky
    True, thus the deportation process started. However, since he married a citizen of the United States, he's legally supposed to become a citizen.
  • ~Pro-Fetus Anti-Liberal Ant... 2011/07/01 23:19:11
    No
    ~Pro-Fetus Anti-Liberal Anti-Atheist~
    +3
    Nope... they are still illegal, no matter how many definitions that the liberals try to change, for the convenience of their agendas.
  • Sexy Co... ~Pro-Fe... 2011/07/01 23:28:37
    Sexy Conservative
    +2
    Agreed. Thats the problem with our culture in the year 2011. The lines are blured between good and evil and right and wrong.
  • iamthem... ~Pro-Fe... 2011/07/03 08:47:21
    iamthemob ~ the 444th Guru ~
    But the reason they remain so in this instance is because DoMA mandates straight and gay couples be treated differently.
  • JeremyJohnson 2011/07/01 23:16:22
    No
    JeremyJohnson
    +3
    down with this gay pride movement
  • Friskyw... JeremyJ... 2011/07/01 23:34:14
    Friskywhisky
    +2
    Down with this hate movement.
  • Bomb a JeremyJ... 2011/07/04 03:37:57
    Bomb a
    There is no gay pride movement. It's just commiseration among freaks.
  • Friskywhisky 2011/07/01 23:14:30
    Yes
    Friskywhisky
    +2
    It's unconstitutional NOT to allow them.
  • Sexy Co... Friskyw... 2011/07/01 23:28:58
    Sexy Conservative
    NO WHERE IN OUR CONSTIUTION DOES IT SAY THAT ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS HAVE THE RIGHT TO MARRY.
  • Friskyw... Sexy Co... 2011/07/01 23:33:47
    Friskywhisky
    +2
    This person was here on a visitor's visa, and in Connecticut was married to another man. In America, the constitution....It says that you can become a citizen by marrying a citizen of the US. Just like the top comment says about Russian mail order brides, - its the same thing.

    Thus since this man married a citizen, he should become a citizen and allowed to stay.

    HE IS NOT AN ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT.
  • sbtbill Sexy Co... 2011/07/02 00:04:05
    sbtbill
    +1
    Marriage is not defined or disgused in the Constitution. Citizenship was not disgused till the 14th amendment. The clause about citizenship requirements in the original document only pertained to requirements for the Vice President and President.

    I do not believe there is any definition of naturaliztion in the Constitution. It wasn't a problem in 1800. If you could get here and wanted to be a citizen you were . That remained the case till at least 1860. At that point anti-chinese legislation restricted enter based on race. That began to change in the 1920's. The issue started to become a hot button in the 1970's
  • Sexy Co... sbtbill 2011/07/02 01:38:16
    Sexy Conservative
    Homosexuality was not really discussed either. We are a free repulic that was based on judeo-christian beliefs. We are not Europe. I lived in Germany. They are actually more conservative than you think they are.
  • Drock 2011/07/01 23:13:35
    No
    Drock
    +3
    I can say it in one word "NO!!!!". Enough said.
  • FAWKES' NOOSE ~ ΔTX 2011/07/01 23:12:33
    Yes
    FAWKES' NOOSE ~ ΔTX
    +2
    Same rights as heterosexual married couples. That's the point.
  • Soldier... FAWKES'... 2011/07/01 23:22:41
    Soldier4Christ82
    Having the same rights means that they have the same right to heterosexual marriage as heterosexuals do.
  • FAWKES'... Soldier... 2011/07/01 23:24:02
    FAWKES' NOOSE ~ ΔTX
    +3
    Boy are you lost.
  • Soldier... FAWKES'... 2011/07/01 23:31:42
    Soldier4Christ82
    Yes, I'm lost because I'm actually capable of using my brain as something other than a placeholder. SAME rights means SAME rights. Do you know what the word SAME means? No, obviously not.
  • FAWKES'... Soldier... 2011/07/02 00:07:01
    FAWKES' NOOSE ~ ΔTX
    +2
    The whole fight is over the ability of homosexuals to marry so they can have the same rights as married heterosexual couples - community property, joint taxes, probate, medical decisions etc etc. Thanks for showing us how ignorant you are.
  • Soldier... FAWKES'... 2011/07/03 00:08:21
    Soldier4Christ82
    If they want the same rights then they can marry someone of the opposite sex. If they're not willing to do that then that's their own choice.
  • FAWKES'... Soldier... 2011/07/03 01:19:05
    FAWKES' NOOSE ~ ΔTX
    +1
    Equal rights for all, Jack.
  • Soldier... FAWKES'... 2011/07/05 01:39:19
    Soldier4Christ82
    Then all means ALL disgusting perverted freaks, not just homosexuals. That means everyone, pedophiles, necrophiles, incestuous folk, EVERYONE. You can't claim you want equality for everyone and then backpedal at light speed when other perverts besides homosexuals are brought into the equasion.
  • FAWKES'... Soldier... 2011/07/05 02:04:03
    FAWKES' NOOSE ~ ΔTX
    Perverted freaks have the same rights as you do. So do Dodger fans.
  • Soldier... FAWKES'... 2011/07/05 02:07:11
    Soldier4Christ82
    Nope. Pedophiles don't hafe the right to pursue children and, according to you they should; because that's what equal rights means.

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