Should Mitt Romney tell the Mormon Church to stop performing Mormon baptisms on dead Jews?

Diane 2012/02/28 06:35:14
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The Mormon Church has a list of Jews who they intend to baptize into the Mormon faith after they die. This is an insult to the Jewish people. So far Mitt Romney has been silent on this practice. Should he speak up?
Mitt Romney is keeping his mouth shut about controversial Mormon baptisms of
dead Jews, even though Nobel laureate and Holocaust survivor Elie Wiesel has
demanded he speak up. A researcher discovered that the late parents of famed Nazi-hunter Simon
Wiesenthal were baptized
in Mormon ceremonies in Utah and Arizona last
month. "Can you believe it?" a stunned Wiesel asked on MSNBC yesterday. Wiesel was also placed on
the Mormon to-be-baptized list. "How come he hasn't spoken up?" asked Wiesel.
"The moment he heard about this he should have spoken up because he's running
for the presidency of the United States. This is too serious an issue for him
not to have spoken up." In an earlier interview with the Huffington Post, Wiesel said
Romney should encourage his church to end the practice. "I think it's not only
objectionable, it's scandalous," he said.

The Mormons believe people
can be baptized after death, and baptized hundreds of thousands of Holocaust
victims until they agreed to stop the practice in 1995. They have also baptized
Anne Frank, Josef Stalin, and Adolph Hitler, notes MSNBC. Romney is refusing to
discuss the issue and his campaign is referring all questions to the Mormon
church. A Mormon spokesman apologized for the baptisms of Wiesenthal's parents,
and promised Wiesel that he and his family members won't be baptized. How do you
stay off the Mormons' to-be-baptized list? You can't really, says Slate. Technically, Mormons
are only supposed to baptize ancestors, but obviously that has been loosely


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  • Roger47 2012/02/28 07:44:04
    Not just on Jews. On everybody. It is the height of arrogance to assume you are doing somebody a favor by baptizing them into a religion not of their choosing after they have died. It should be against the law.

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  • r-w-wako 2012/05/31 04:15:22
    Your question and this entire issue is based on a gross misconception and, hence, rendered moot.

    The position of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints on this issue is articulated concisely in the Church's official publication, the Ensign, of June 2012:

    "...Church leaders have asked the members who are submitting names for proxy baptisms for the deceased to:
    1. Work only on their own family lines.
    2. Not submit names of celebrities.
    3. Not submit names of unauthorized groups, such as Jewish Holocaust victims.
    Church leaders issued a statement on February 21, 2012, in response to questions about violations of the Church policy, which was established in 1995 after discussions with leaders of the Jewish faith.
    The statement repeated the Church's firm commitment to not accept the names of unauthorized groups for proxy baptism and noted that in order to bypass safeguards already in place a submitter would have to use 'deception and manipulation'."

    Romney has consciously and conscientiously avoided speaking publicly about any aspect of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, because he knows his religion is not and should not be a factor in his candidacy or the office of President of the United States, as delineated in the U.S. Constitution.
  • Dave Sawyer ♥ Child of God ♥ 2012/04/09 20:25:05
    Dave Sawyer ♥ Child of God ♥
    Only Christ should tell His Church what to do.
  • Dave Sa... Dave Sa... 2012/04/09 20:28:25
    Dave Sawyer ♥ Child of God ♥
    BTW: It is not just Jews but everyone who has died, having reached the age of accountability, without having been baptized by the proper authority. Each person baptized in the name of a deceased person is baptized by the authority of the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost, and not in the name of "the Mormon Church". And no one is forced to accept the baptism done in their name.
  • Diane Dave Sa... 2012/04/10 02:38:55 (edited)
    Jesus was Jewish. He would tell the Mormons to convert to Judaism.
  • Dave Sa... Diane 2012/04/10 04:50:08 (edited)
    Dave Sawyer ♥ Child of God ♥
    He told the Jews to straighten up and fly right - most of them refused.
    He told the Mormons not to join any existing Church (in 1820) but to wait for instructions from Him.
  • Diane Dave Sa... 2012/04/10 05:52:03
    In 1820, Jesus was dead.
  • Dave Sa... Diane 2012/04/10 14:29:50 (edited)
    Dave Sawyer ♥ Child of God ♥
    Surprise then, to you, Jesus lives. Ever heard of Easter (never mind the bunnies and eggs)? And what do you think Passover is really about?
  • Diane Dave Sa... 2012/04/10 18:59:13
    I've heard of Easter. But it has nothing to do with whether Jesus lives. Has he ever shown up at an Easter egg hunt?

    Passover commemorates the fleeing of the slaves from Egypt. It has nothing to Jesus. In fact, it took place over a thousand years before Jesus was born.
  • Dave Sa... Diane 2012/04/11 00:53:49
    Dave Sawyer ♥ Child of God ♥
    Jesus has been seen many times since His resurrection, even in these Last Days.

    Adam was told that he should sacrifice in similitude of the sacrifice of the Only Begotten Son of God. This was known also to Moses, and the passover meal represented the sinless (unleavened) life (bread) of Christ that was broken for us, and the blood of the Lamb was spread on the doorposts so that the Angel of Death would pass over the people who ate of the passover lamb. Christ was with God the Father in the beginning, yet He came in the meridian of time to offer Himself for the sins of all men. God lives in Eternity, we live in time (which is a fragile bubble in eternity.
  • Diane Dave Sa... 2012/04/11 06:10:23
    Oh my God! You are so confused! Unleavened bread was the bread of haste. The Jews had to hurry to get out of Egypt. And it was ram's blood, not lamb's blood. Didn't you ever see The Ten Commandments with Charleton Heston?
  • Dave Sa... Diane 2012/04/11 15:50:43
    Dave Sawyer ♥ Child of God ♥
    But leaven was a type of sin, as a mustard seed was a type of faith.
    Don't believe everything you see in the movies. Read the Bible if you want to discuss it.
  • Diane Dave Sa... 2012/04/12 05:26:38
    You shall eat no leavened bread with it; seven days you shall eat matzos, the bread of affliction; for in haste did you come forth out of the land of Egypt; that you may remember the day when you came forth out of the land of Egypt all the days of your life.
    —Deuteronomy 16:3

    *for in haste did you come forth out of the land of Egypt*
  • Dave Sa... Diane 2012/04/12 14:36:22
    Dave Sawyer ♥ Child of God ♥
    And how is that alone worthy of remembrance?
  • Diane Dave Sa... 2012/04/13 05:24:45
    What do you mean?
  • Dave Sa... Diane 2012/04/13 14:44:54
    Dave Sawyer ♥ Child of God ♥
    God does not mean us to live in the past but to hope for the future. If we get anything from the past it is to help us in our future.
  • DemonChild 2012/03/23 01:57:07
    If they don't believe in the power of the church than why do they care?
  • Izariel 2012/03/09 03:08:38
    That is blatantly false. It is the policy of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints to NOT perform vicarious work for the dead for those individuals. Any that attempt to do so are liable for disciplinary action. Please get your facts straight.
  • Diane Izariel 2012/03/12 05:48:51
    They baptized Anne Frank six times.
  • Izariel Diane 2012/03/12 13:37:47
    And how does this in any way refute my asserted point? Does a church have absolute authority over any of their members autonomy? No. Members know not to do this, and if they do- they are disciplined. Please stop trying to make a mountain from a mole hill.
  • Dave Sa... Diane 2012/04/09 20:28:58
    Dave Sawyer ♥ Child of God ♥
    Which Anne Frank?
  • Diane Dave Sa... 2012/04/10 02:41:09
    The Holocaust victim. You've never heard of The Diary of Anne Frank?
  • Dave Sa... Diane 2012/04/10 04:50:51
    Dave Sawyer ♥ Child of God ♥
    There have been lots of Anne Franks. Surely at least six.
  • Swany 2012/03/04 16:43:24
    Yes, Romney should speak up
    Mormons are the most dangerous cult of whack jobs infesting the planet. space mormons
  • ☆stillthe12c☆ 2012/02/29 06:29:33
    He might say something, but I doubt that it will be publicly. Doing a baptism after death is not going to doing thing one way or the other, Never heard of this one. It is a bazaar thing to do for sure.
  • Dave Sa... ☆stillt... 2012/04/09 20:30:27
    Dave Sawyer ♥ Child of God ♥
    It's mentioned in 1 Corinthians 15:29 - in the Bible.
  • ☆stillt... Dave Sa... 2012/04/09 22:32:35
    Yes, you are correct, but it is telling you this is wasted effort. Baptism is for those who have acknowledge Christ as their savior and have confessed their sin. They also should be of an age of accountability. Another words they know what they are doing.
  • Dave Sa... ☆stillt... 2012/04/09 22:38:01
    Dave Sawyer ♥ Child of God ♥
    Paul was using this Church practice to show that we believe in the resurrection.
    It is done on the basis that Jesus went and preached unto the spirits in prison (and the work continues under His direction even now) while His body was in the grave.
    See 1 Peter 3:18-20, "For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit: By which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison; Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water."
    Why would He do that if they could not benefit by His preaching?
  • aneed2know 2012/02/28 08:06:09
    Yes, Romney should speak up
    i don t even understand why we give this cult tax exempt status, when religious groups who use Cannabis or Peyote either are denied the right to worship in their own way are persecuted Mormonism is a cult and nothing more.

    Let alone why would they think it would be okay to baptize dead people?
  • Roger47 2012/02/28 07:44:04
    Not just on Jews. On everybody. It is the height of arrogance to assume you are doing somebody a favor by baptizing them into a religion not of their choosing after they have died. It should be against the law.
  • Diane Roger47 2012/02/28 15:58:52
    I agree with you, but I think Romney, as one of the most influential members of the Mormon Church, should speak up.
  • Dave Sa... Diane 2012/04/09 20:31:55 (edited)
    Dave Sawyer ♥ Child of God ♥
    Romney is not one of the Church's General Authorities, so how is he one of the most influential members?
  • DemonChild Roger47 2012/03/23 01:58:42
    Well, you can choose when your dead whether or not you accept the gospel.
  • Roger47 DemonChild 2012/03/23 03:59:02
    How do you stop them from baptising you if you are dead?
  • DemonChild Roger47 2012/03/24 04:11:09
    I don't mind if any church did! I mean it's not like their digging up bodies to do this!
  • CaliGurl 2012/02/28 07:02:09
    Yes, Romney should speak up
    But he would NEVER do such a thing. It would be political suicide. The mormon church has a practice of baptizing the dead, which is completely ridiculous. The church is full of hypocrites and liars. Their laws were made to suit the men and mislead the people. We still have thousands of Mormon polygamists that rape children and have multiple wives living in our country. Mormonism is a very sick and twisted religion. They truly believe that they are the ONLY ones that will make it to the highest place in heaven. All because of Joseph Smith, a 14 year old mentally ill boy who supposedly found some holy templates that have never been seen by anyone else. We KNOW Mitt should speak up, but honestly, can we really expect a real con (especially of his economic status) to do the right thing? Oh hell no.
  • DemonChild CaliGurl 2012/03/24 04:13:30
    This is a very ignorant post. I can't believe people are this misinformed and intolerant of other people. The FLDS is a very sick religion (the one with polygamists) but I will let them practice what they practice anyway, I just won't contribute to the FLDS church.
  • CaliGurl DemonChild 2012/03/27 06:45:25
    I agree with you, so I am sorry if you misread or misinterpreted my post. Take care.
  • CaliGurl DemonChild 2012/03/27 06:53:05
    btw... you cannot stop them from practing what they practice. we do not have the power. the police are doing what they can to save the women and children. since we are the informed ones, we do know that the young men are kicked out because the older men want to make the young girls their wives. their rape them and tell them this is good.

    This is something I must say though... the modern church of latter day saints of jesus christ completely stands against the polygamists. The real problem with mormonism is their complete separation from the rest of society. They believe that they will be the only ones to reach true heaven, which we know as Christians or believers in God in any sense is wrong. God sent Christ, not just to believe in HIM to achieve a place with everlasting life, but to just live my his principles that he was sent here to teach: love, kindness, faith, understanding, tolerance, acceptance, forgiveness, etc. The greatest lesson ever is to love our neighbors as we love ourselves. The lesson truly is love. When we love with an open heart, we break none of the 10 commandments. Love truly is all we need.

  • Dave Sa... CaliGurl 2012/04/09 20:37:12
    Dave Sawyer ♥ Child of God ♥
    If we believe that only we will be saved, why do we baptize for the dead as well?
    Paul used the same argument against those who didn't believe in the resurrection. 1 Corinthians 15:29.
  • Dave Sa... CaliGurl 2012/04/09 20:33:32
    Dave Sawyer ♥ Child of God ♥
    Anyone who denies the baptism for the dead denies the New Testament - 1 Corinthians 15:29.

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