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Should Lying to Get Out of Jury Duty Be Grounds for Arrest?

SodaHead News 2012/03/23 13:00:00
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Admit it, you've at least thought about it. Pretend you're crazy to get out of jury duty... It's so simple! However, as 57-year-old Susan Cole can attest, the consequences -- if you get caught -- could be dire. When the Denver resident showed up for jury selection last June, she tried to pull the ol' PTSD card. That's post-traumatic stress disorder, the result of "domestic violence in the military." Her hair was a mess, shoes didn't match. Now she's facing a potential felony.

Court reporter Kelli Wessels told investigators, "Her makeup looked like something you would wear during a theater performance. When the judge asked the entire panel if anyone had a mental illness, she stated she had difficulties getting ready in the morning, which was apparent to me by the way she was dressed." Psychiatrists are upset, too. They say she's "trivializing" PTSD. But does she really need to be arrested over it? Couldn't they just make her watch "12 Angry Men" and take a quiz? What do you think is appropriate punishment for lying to get out of jury duty?

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  • the fuze 2012/03/23 19:13:50
    Yes
    the fuze
    +8
    If we don't penalize (heavily), people will just keep trying to get away with stuff.

    Why do you think the Saints got so heavily fined by the NFL? Because the Saints LIED to the Commissioner.

    People need to be held accountable for their actions. Lying to a Judge and Jury should be grounds for arrest in my opinion.

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  • wutever 2012/08/06 23:29:10 (edited)
    No
    wutever
    My job does not reimburse you or pay for you, when you have to go to jury duty. All ov my bills are paid for out of pocket, and i cant afford to loose out on $80.00 for 6 lousy bucks.
  • ģhøṡτ øώl 2012/08/06 17:09:58
    Yes
    ģhøṡτ øώl
    What part of Civic Duty do they not understand? Everyone wants to cry about their freedom and liberty, but no one wants the responsibility and accountability that come with it.
  • YepIDidItSo 2012/08/06 15:33:23
    No
    YepIDidItSo
    +1
    Always felt jury duty should be voluntary. If one is forced to serve, they may sway verdict out of revenge.
  • wutever YepIDid... 2012/08/06 23:29:51
    wutever
    It pisses me off having to go
  • Cheyenna 2012/08/06 04:58:00
    Yes
    Cheyenna
    Yep.
  • Demoness 2012/08/06 04:13:13
    No
    Demoness
    +1
    I have never agreed that anyone should be forced to act as a juror...what happened to freedom of choice??
  • Veritas 2012/08/06 03:10:52
    Yes
    Veritas
    Having a legitimate reason is one thing . . . flat out lying because you do not wish to carry out your civic duty is another matter altogether.
  • Max7 2012/08/06 03:06:31
    No
    Max7
    Because some people are called so often, when there are others who have never been called to serve. When I was working, my employer called to explain how often they called me, and I was excused. Jury duty is boring, I'd rather got to work.
  • EdVenture 2012/08/06 02:58:26
    No
    EdVenture
    Not sure, Maybe if they had to serve they'd take it out on the system or the defendant.
  • themadhare ~IJM 2012/08/06 02:39:49
    Yes
    themadhare ~IJM
    +1
    She initially got away with it, but she had to call a radio talk show called Dave Logan Show to brag about it. That's when they nailed her.
  • Scott C 2012/08/06 02:39:01
    No
    Scott C
    Forcing people to sit on juries does not insure a good juror - if they don't want to be there to sit on a jury then the should be asked to opt out of their right to a jury should they ever be in need. Good citizens know that it is a honor and a duty to sit on a jury.
  • Tee Quake 2012/08/06 02:35:57
    No
    Tee Quake
    You must be kidding. We are supposed to have somewhat intelligent people administering the jury system. If they are incapable of ferreting-out a liar, more power to him or her. Besides, there are already stiff penalties for wrongfully ducking jury service. Most common is the dreaded FINE. However, I think you are under oath when being vetted for jury duty and if you lie that would be perjury which already does subject you to arrest, incarceration, AND the dreaded FINE.
  • Royo 2012/08/06 02:07:52
    No
    Royo
    +1
    Nobody wants to do it, so why arrest someone for not wanting to do it like everyone else???
  • ADEBANJO OLAMIDE (CALEB UNI.) 2012/05/13 19:55:00
    Yes
    ADEBANJO OLAMIDE (CALEB UNI.)
    you should not lie to get out of anything, i learnt from a bad experience that lying makes things worse. Always tell the truth no matter the consequences. OLAMIDE ADEBANJO ( CALEB UNIVERSITY IMOTA , LAGOS.)
  • right-choice 2012/04/13 15:56:38
    No
    right-choice
    Fined Yes , Arrest no
  • wrwheelerjr 2012/04/09 20:58:55
    No
    wrwheelerjr
    Arrests cost money and free people should be able to volunteer when they choose to. If courts assigned this duty by month according to SSN or DL# and everyone knew the month they may be called on to serve, they could avoid vacation plans and keep work flexable whil being worry free the rest of the year. Also the jury should be chosen at random with complete disregard for ones sanity unless they are a danger to the other jurers.
  • *K'eim*h3reg' *Peh2u *Meg' 2012/04/02 22:34:32
    No
    *K'eim*h3reg' *Peh2u *Meg'
    The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

    Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.
  • fantastic.drew1 2012/03/31 04:15:54
    No
    fantastic.drew1
    I have been ducking Jury Duty for far to long to say yes to this question. Please no jail time.
  • Follow The Money 2012/03/28 23:15:43
    No
    Follow The Money
    +2
    Lying in Court???

    Never heard of such a thing!

    Can't believe anyone would do that!
  • beth weisleder 2012/03/28 21:29:38
    No
    beth weisleder
    +1
    Arresting people unable to perform jury duty is ludicrous & a further waste of time of police officers & the court system. Forcing a person who is already struggling to make ends meet is absurd. If you work AND have a child/children, losing income by sitting around waiting to see if 'your case' would settle is a complete waste of time. Especially if you are a manager of a small co. AND a single mother of a school age child. Here's an example: I was called for jury duty when I was one of two employees employed by a physician. I was in charge & had worked hard to be there.. I was also divorced & had no babysitter(or family) because my son went to the Y after school. I already had to PAY the Y to go to the grammar school, pick him up, take him back to the Y waiting for me to pick him up after work. Parents were charged $5.for every 5 min.increment you were late. I was chosen for jury duty & wound up spending 2 weeks in court. I HAD to make up that time. I had to hire a mother to pick up my son from the Y & wait for me in the courthouse parking lot. I then raced to work with my child to catch up on the medical billing I HAD to do to keep the practice going. I also had to work weekends as a result. The office was closed but the WORK continued. Think about it.
  • www.sodahead.com/smithy 2012/03/28 08:37:37
    Yes
    www.sodahead.com/smithy
    you will get into trouble if you try to wriggle out of it i know my cousin nearly got into trouble trying to get out of it
  • BIGK27 2012/03/27 23:02:46
    No
    BIGK27
    +1
    There are tens of thousands of people that don't work for a living; for what ever reson. A good percentage of these people can do jury duty..as often as they would like.
    I'm a very responsible small business owner of two specialized companies and if I'm not there, my companies suffers and in some cases my guys don't work and if I'm not working I'm loosing thousands of dollars everyday, so I can go to court (jury duty) for $12.00 a day and watch some jerk (lawyers) get over paid to BS. the system; all the while I'm loosing money, my guys aren't getting paid, my customers are pissed because the work not getting done, What the hell are these liberal thinking? sorry, I forgot liberals don't think. Let me help you out, get retired people, this would give them something to do, and with all of their wisdom, they (for the most part) are intelligent people full of a life time of experience. Let them judge these people.
    Leave us working people alone and when I retire; I'll do my part.
  • beth we... BIGK27 2012/03/28 22:07:30
    beth weisleder
    +1
    I agree and I am retired.
  • BIGK27 beth we... 2012/03/28 22:26:55
    BIGK27
    Thank you! You are a great American.
  • Glenda BIGK27 2012/03/30 07:32:35
    Glenda
    By the time people reach retirement, they have all kinds of illnesses and disabilities....loss of hearing and vision, Alzheimer's, dementia, and too many others to mention. You want these people making decisions whether someone is guilty or not? Not me! You speak of liberals in a negative tone so you must be Republican. Well, I think our wonderful President Ronald Regan had Alzheimer's while in office. After all, he was in some stage of it for years before it became full blown and he was running our Country. Whoopee! Wasn't that wonderful! I am Republican and I voted for him, too. Wish I could take my vote back. I will never vote for another Republican!
  • BIGK27 Glenda 2012/04/03 21:25:09
    BIGK27
    Like Ragan, my late father had Alzheimer's at the end of his life. It wasn't his choice to have it, It Wasn't wonderful watching my proud marine father go down hill nor did I ever say Whoopee! you can't make decisions like you could before. You're no Republican, and I wish you have a happy life with your new La La friends... you liberal.
    Ps. Please don't vote you and your kind are KILLING this Once great Country.
  • william keegan 2012/03/27 20:49:42
    Yes
    william keegan
    +1
    The last time I was called for Jury duty I had to swear the information I gave was the truth. If I lied after being sworn in, I would be guilty of perjury and subject to criminal prosecution.
  • BIGK27 william... 2012/03/28 22:31:33
    BIGK27
    The year I was sworn in, but they didn't say; "SO HELP YOU GOD" so I added it for them..they didn't like that.
  • MS PRUD 2012/03/27 19:00:37
    Yes
    MS PRUD
    This is our civic duty to do jury duty.
  • beth we... MS PRUD 2012/03/28 21:36:55
    beth weisleder
    +2
    I would not LIE to a judge. I simply feel there are many retired people or people who are unemployed(for various reasons) that are available to sit as jurors. They often would be willing to welcome the small amt. of money offered & welcome the variety & feel useful.
  • wutever beth we... 2012/08/06 23:36:18
    wutever
    I allways felt they should just hire people for jury duty as there job. Some people like doing that
  • beth we... MS PRUD 2012/03/28 22:09:09
    beth weisleder
    Have you ever actually served on a jury?
  • MS PRUD beth we... 2012/04/01 23:42:34 (edited)
    MS PRUD
    I served on grand jury duty for a year and I really enjoyed it. We had to spend one week a month for a year, we did not say they were guilty or not guilty but we had to say if they had enough evidence to bring them before a jury. I had to go to Benton, IL and to East St. Louis, IL. I also served on several civil cases and I felt I had to give it my total attention because I would not want to regret the way I voted so I made sure of my vote of yes or no.
  • Cathy 2012/03/27 17:28:58
    Yes
    Cathy
    Lying about something that really isn't true is called "fraud" and not appearing for jury duty intentionally is felony. Therefore, a person could be arrested or be charged a fine.
  • Rdtourist 2012/03/27 12:51:00
    Yes
    Rdtourist
    Sodahead is trivializing the issue by using the example they did, a person using a vague illness that is poorly defined as an excuse, the question would have been better couched by pursuing folks that get their employers to play the essential to business card or essential to care and well being of a family member and so on. Even better, the ones that outright LIE about whereabouts and activities or belief sets to get out of that duty.
  • Meljahun 2012/03/27 09:36:04
    No
    Meljahun
    But A Fine will be sufficient.
  • Aksana 2012/03/27 09:32:50
    Yes
    Aksana
    Yes
  • freespire 2012/03/27 07:11:46
    No
    freespire
    but it should be grounds for pental jury duty services like a full extra week
  • beth we... freespire 2012/03/28 22:12:47
    beth weisleder
    What is a 'pental'? And how would it assist the jury system?
  • freespire beth we... 2012/03/28 22:41:59
    freespire
    as a punishment sorry I am not the best speller in the world
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