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Should Large Vehicles Like Trucks and Semis Improve on Fuel Efficiency?

SodaHead Politics 2011/08/09 20:33:00
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SUVs and minivans are one thing, but now we're talking semis.

In an attempt to combine fuel efficiency, clean energy, and cost-effective business strategies into one simple policy, President Obama has announced he will be pushing for stricter regulations on fuel consumption by large vehicles, such as fire trucks and semis.

The new policy will require the producers of large gas-powered trucks, including heavy-duty public vehicles like garbage trucks and fire trucks, to reduce fuel requirements by 9 to 15 percent, depending on what kind of fuel the vehicles use, and producers of big rigs and semis to reduce requirements by 23 percent.

At this stage, the policy will reportedly only affect vehicles made for distribution in 2014 though 2018.

It might sound like nothing but an environmental push, but Obama claims the new fuel standards could save companies across the nation up to $50 billion in fuel costs, as well as cutting green house gas emissions by 270 million metric tons, Green Biz reports.

Obama noted in his announcement regarding the policy, "While we were working to improve the efficiency of cars and light-duty trucks, something interesting happened. We started getting letters asking that we do the same for medium- and heavy-duty trucks. They were from the people who build, buy and drive these trucks."

Oil companies will be less enthused.

The U.S. Environmental Protection Agency's website explains, "Overall, EPA and NHTSA estimate that the HD National Program will cost the affected industry about $8 billion, while saving vehicle owners fuel costs of about $50 billion over the lifetimes of model year 2014-2018 vehicles, discounted at three percent."
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  • kevjon 2011/08/10 01:43:50
    No
    kevjon
    +14
    Oh my gosh Obama is brilliant. Are we sure he wasn't an engineer or a physicist, how did we miss not making these trucks fuel efficient? Now I understand why the liberals worship this messiah. I'm voting for this Genius in 2012.
    Why Lord was this man holding back on us for so long?
    I'll bet he can heal the sick and bring back the dead.
    And lets not forget that his borrow and spend has brought us out of a near depression despite the fact that it never has worked in the history of stupidity, but Barrack Hussein Obama has shown the world that we can debt ourselves out of.....debt.

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  • KoolGuyL 2011/08/11 15:04:42
    Yes
    KoolGuyL
    Of course. In the long run we will save lots of money and we will have a better environment.
  • susan 2011/08/11 14:55:32
    No
    susan
    President Obama and his ignorant minions do not know what they are doing. They do not have any evidence that the work done by these trucks and equipment can be done with vehicles with restrictions on their fuel efficiency or by alternative fuels.

    Yes, in the laboratory, the vehicles run just fine. However, under load and in working situations, it doesn't work. Also, these vehicles are not replaced often, but repaired and kept running for years. What these new regulations would do is further add to the cost of doing business, force the junking of equipment, and increase costs tremendously. This, in turn, will lead to further loss of jobs as businesses move out of the US to less restrictive countries and others go under from unrecoverable costs and/or production costs passed on to consumers are not competitive with foreign products.

    Obama, the EPA, and a number of other federal agencies are very shortsighted and limited in their ability and desire to evaluate the entire spectrum of intended and unintended consequences.
  • dePSyChO 2011/08/11 14:45:20
    Yes
    dePSyChO
    This is a stupid question - of course they should!

    Just as the story said, the oil companies aren't going to be happy. That's a *good* thing. We shouldn't care what the damn oil companies think. If anything is evil, it's them.
  • Brian Tristan MacQuillan 2011/08/11 13:18:42
  • Diane Spraggs Yates 2011/08/11 13:16:11
    Yes
    Diane Spraggs Yates
    Obama will not mess with Teamster UNION !!!!
  • WOODMAN34 Diane S... 2011/08/12 13:31:43
    WOODMAN34
    +1
    Of course he won't miss with the teamsters-------- they give him too much MONEY every year.....
  • Morgan Orlins 2011/08/11 11:16:02
    No
    Morgan Orlins
    +2
    Why can't SHPolitics get these polls correct? Who's in charge?

    The CORRECT answer to this question is...
    --"It's NONE of my business what someone else does with their big rig."--

    ...least of all, some GD ghetto commie in Washington DC who couldn't hit his own a$s with both hands if he was given a dozen free chances!
  • WannaBeRSC the Contrarian SOB 2011/08/11 10:50:44
    No
    WannaBeRSC the Contrarian SOB
    +1
    If Obumbo says it, there's a catch. Imelt must be getting ready to make a buck, alongside Gore...
  • BryanRozells 2011/08/11 09:13:08
    No
    BryanRozells
    Obama should try walking to work.
  • meanderingaround 2011/08/11 07:36:54
    Yes
    meanderingaround
    Why not.... it would be cheaper for everyone in the long run
  • Julian 2011/08/11 06:46:57 (edited)
    Yes
    Julian
    +1
    The government should make the truck manufacturers build trucks that run on smiles and emit chocolate sprinkles!
    truck manufacturers build trucks run smiles emit chocolate sprinkles spongebob squarepants
  • Donn Wright 2011/08/11 06:28:00
    No
    Donn Wright
    +2
    Just a quick thought here. Fuel is by a large margin the number one expense for any trucking company. Therefore, manufacturers of diesel engines for large large trucks as well as the truck makers themselves have been in a constant battle for 40 years to make the most efficient trucks for each market segment.

    Why?

    Because the only way to remain competitive and sell trucks is to have the most efficient vehicle.

    This is just further evidence (as if we really needed it) of how far Obama is from the real world. This is what happens when you elect an idealist who has absolutely no knowledge of how a business operates and has absolutely no managerial experience of any kind before becoming the most powerful executive on the planet.

    By imposing completely unrealistic and unachievable fuel mileage mandates, he has effectively killed the entire U.S. auto and truck manufacturing business.

    Of course, that will give him a great opportunity to bail them out with money we don't
    have.

    If there is another human on the planet who is less capable of being the President of this once great and soon to be extinct Country, I honestly don't know who it might be.

    Let's see how smart the people of America are in 2012, if we survive that long!
  • G'Ma Donn Wr... 2011/08/11 06:46:45
    G'Ma
    +3
    I was going to post my own comment but found this to be absolutely true. We are a trucking family and I can assure you the bottom line is fuel economy. There aren't very many options to magically make trucks more fuel efficient; it is up to the manufacturer to continue to invent smarter more efficent engines and the oil companies to continue to research the best use of what fuel we have. This would be in their own best interest. This cannot be legislated. To do so is further regulation of an already over-regulated industry.
    Obama needs to get his head out of the sand and wake up. I'm sorry I voted for this man in 2008 but in my mind he was the lesser of two evils. NEVER AGAIN!
  • Diane S... G'Ma 2011/08/12 13:50:53
    Diane Spraggs Yates
    !T TAKES POWER TO PULL THEM RIGS and I knew people who could not afford gas to put in their trucks MY DAD HAULED FARM CROPS into Chicago from NW Indiana He was lucky gas was cheap back then 25 cents a gal for cars but 20 dollars was alot of money bread was 21cents ! The guy had to sell his truck and went out of bussiness when gas got over 3 dollars a gallon. Can you see a trucker going 30 miles plug in how long would a run take????? Teamsters will take care of Obama if he messed with them!!!!!! And they paid good money to keep him in line!!!!!
  • gary 2011/08/11 06:14:06
  • WOODMAN34 gary 2011/08/12 13:37:16
    WOODMAN34
    +1
    That may be true, But here in the U.S. we have much larger trucks that will not work on L.N.G. or LP. We are a much larger country and need larger trucks.
  • gary WOODMAN34 2011/08/12 14:57:49
  • DavidGustafson 2011/08/11 04:46:59
    Yes
    DavidGustafson
    +1
    Of course...but don't mandate it. Let truckers balance the cost of fuel against the cost of a new vehicle. Let things work.
  • Phil 2011/08/11 04:37:37
    Yes
    Phil
    +2
    In increments that will not 'kill' the trucker's business or require him to purchase a new vehicle prematurely.
  • Sawdust_128 2011/08/11 04:25:50
    No
    Sawdust_128
    +2
    Trucking is a pennies profit per mile industry. If there is a way to improve eficiencies, those guys are already doing it in an economical manner. Obama and his regs will kill the trucking business. Then the tofu eaters can pay $100/lbs, but feel good about diesel consumption, while thay and the little lady are peddling their Obama mobile with the day glow sails, to the Gummint food distribution center. on their day for rations, if the new high efficieny truck didn't break down.
  • 13_JunkyardDog 2011/08/11 04:03:16
    Yes
    13_JunkyardDog
    if we can do it, we should. it could save money in the long run and decrease the amount of times each truck needs to stop, which would mean faster delivery.
  • Apache 2011/08/11 03:43:57 (edited)
    Yes
    Apache
    +2
    Now let's see America produce them. Production of affordable fuel efficient tractors is easier said than done. Besides, all Hussein produces is a lot of hot air to gain votes, nothing more. I hate to say this, but there already is in place a fuel efficient mode of heavy transportation, it's called railroads. The only problem with railroads is their tracks don't go everywhere. That's where I come in.

    hate fuel efficient mode heavy transportation railroads railroads tracks
  • Todd *RP 2012* 2011/08/11 03:37:54
    Yes
    Todd *RP 2012*
    +3
    Semis are useful, but over-used.
    Teamster's Union, anyone?

    semis make more sense over short distance to and from rail heads. rail is the most efficient way to move large amounts of cargo over long distance.
  • DavidK 2011/08/11 02:22:42
    No
    DavidK
    +2
    Obviously they are trying what they can do lower it already. Maybe Obama should concentrate on the current issues he's messed up on rather then creating new ones.
  • Apache DavidK 2011/08/11 03:47:49
    Apache
    +3
    Obama could get thousands of his community organizers together, hitch them up to trailers, and pull loads all over the country at a fraction of the cost of using big rigs.
  • WannaBe... Apache 2011/08/11 10:52:55
    WannaBeRSC the Contrarian SOB
    +1
    Things we would like to see...
  • DavidK Apache 2011/08/11 15:38:36 (edited)
  • Apache DavidK 2011/08/12 21:00:00
    Apache
    LOL
  • deborah sletten 2011/08/11 02:01:55
    Yes
    deborah sletten
    Yes.
  • Willl 2011/08/11 01:49:57
    Yes
    Willl
    +2
    Yes, all vehicles should improve on fuel economy.
    May I ask just two questions though?
    So, what will happen when manufacturers of these large vehicles will be unable to meet the new standards?
    What makes you think that an administration, which obviously doesn't have a clue how business works other what they read in their collage books written by the same people that sit in this administration, is capable of presenting plausible figures?
    The cost to affected industry $8,000,000, the saving the fleet operators will enjoy $50,000,000.
    Name one person in Obama administration or EPA contributing to these claims who was either building commercial vehicles or operated one for a longer period than two years in recent years.
    Or these numbers came for Harvard and Yale professors who left their University Villages for the first time in recent years to join our current administration in the fight for better America?
  • Sawdust... Willl 2011/08/11 04:19:23
    Sawdust_128
    +2
    It already happened. Detroit Diesel (american company) is losing contracts to volvo for big rig engines. To meet the standards, the DD got so big (to have enough hp) it won't fit or the vehicle frame needs to be reinforced. Bottom line, the trucks will be more efficient and have smaller capacities, so we need about 38% more trucks on the roads, Great solution there Obozo.
  • Willl Sawdust... 2011/08/13 00:34:59
    Willl
    +2
    Excellent point.
  • Joe Falzone 2011/08/11 01:35:10
    Yes
    Joe Falzone
    In addition to fuel improvement trucks should only be allowed to operate during non peak hours preferably at night. Fuel consumption needs no further discussion - either get it right or stop driving the vehicle that is not compliant .
  • G'Ma Joe Fal... 2011/08/11 06:54:41
    G'Ma
    +2
    I don't know how you get your groceries but I get mine delivered to my local store by a TRUCK! I can't help wonder why people hate trucks so much...Our country depends more on them than any other form of commercial transportation. They're not a "vacation mobile" like a car or airplane, they're a means of getting goods from the source to the stores. There just ain't no other way! Take trucks off the road or make them drive at night and see what happens to prices and supply! There isn't anyone more concerned with fuel economy than the trucker..you can put money on that!
  • Diane S... G'Ma 2011/08/12 13:54:04
    Diane Spraggs Yates
    Never can get rid of trucks completely impossible.
  • JoeM 2011/08/11 00:34:04
    No
    JoeM
    +1
    My real answer is "but of course" but then I would get lumped in with the "Obuma is right" crowd. If anything could be done to increase fuel economy, it would be done. Due to free market desire to lower business operating costs. Business drives business, Not government.
  • MLor 2011/08/11 00:27:34
    No
    MLor
    +1
    It's 80,000 lbs combined tractor/trailer....good luck!
  • Bo MLor 2011/08/11 00:40:10
    Bo
    +2
    When I'm loaded pup and truck in my dump truck I'm 105,000
  • Fef 2011/08/11 00:18:35
    No
    Fef
    +2
    Trucks have enough incentive to make themselves more fuel efficient. If they save money on gas, they make higher profits.

    The government shouldn't require any improvements since it will end up costing consumers more. Government causes more inflation than any other factor -- through regulations just like this.

    We particularly don't need more expensive goods during this recession.
  • Larry 2011/08/10 23:52:03
    No
    Larry
    +1
    If they could they would.
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