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Score one for the Islamic supremacists trying to take over our country and impose their draconian Muslim law! Oh, wait, you didn’t hear about that?

Well, the right wing conspiracy theory gained a bit more traction this week when a federal judge in Oklahoma City issued a temporary restraining order against a Republican-sponsored ballot measure that would have banned state courts from considering Islamic or international law when ruling on cases.

According to The Associated Press, the measure, known as “Save Our State,” was approved by voters last week by a 70 percent vote. Just days after the vote, though, Muneer Awad, executive director of the Council on American-Islamic Relations in Oklahoma, filed a federal lawsuit arguing that it was unconstitutional and that it stigmatized his religion and could invalidate his will.

The federal judge issued the temporary restraining order on Monday, preventing the election board from certifying the results of the vote that would ban the use of Islamic law, known as Sharia Law. The stay will remain in effect until a November 22 hearing on a preliminary injunction. The measure’s author, Republican Rep. Rex Duncan, said the amendment was not intended as an attack on Muslims, but an effort to prevent activist judges from using Islamic law in legal cases.

Legal experts questioned the logic of the measure, dubbing it an “answer in search of a problem,” noting that there is no known danger of Sharia Law overtaking the American legal system.

This isn’t the first time the Islamic community of Oklahoma – which represents less than one percent of the state’s four million residents – has complained about the state legislature’s actions. In the past they have complained about a proposal to ban Muslim women from wearing head garments in driver’s license pictures and Duncan’s rejection of a Koran as a gift from a Muslim advisory council at an official state ceremony indicated a bias against Islamic culture.

Should the judge have blocked the Sharia measure?
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  • Mack November 09, 2010 17:14:02
    No
    Mack
    +20
    Islamic law!? This is America!! Whatever happened to separation of state and religion? So now we are actually making it easier for sharia law to permeate the UNITED STATES Court System but god forbid we put the 10 commandments on display...ohhh no!!! Then there'd be hell to pay! F#@% THAT! Ive said it once and Ill say it again. The moment Sharia Law comes to America is the moment I arm myself, my friends, and my family to the teeth and start kicking all sorts of @$$...1775 style!

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  • kita November 11, 2010 19:57:26
    Undecided
    kita
    i have no idea what or who that is
  • Kirby November 11, 2010 14:20:46
    No
    Kirby
    What part of the citzens voted for this did the judge misunderstand. Especially 70 per cent. Get him removed from the bench and quit trying to take away the voters voice. If the muslims don't like it GO BACK TO THE MIDDLE EAST WHERE YOU BELONG...
  • Jteague63 November 11, 2010 13:49:31
    No
    Jteague63
    Our country was based on Judeo Christian values and customs. If people want to follow these alternate lifestyles, I suggest they find an alternate country to live in!
  • AmVet November 11, 2010 13:05:09
    No
    AmVet
    +2
    People who migrate to the United States of America are suppose to be leaving the life and conditions of a country that they were forced to live under laws or conditions that they disliked. Not bring those conditions and laws with them, if that is how they wish to live they should go home. They chose to come to a Christian based country, they should adapt to our life and not expect us to accept theirs over ours.
  • KennethJamesAbbott November 11, 2010 10:24:32
    No
    KennethJamesAbbott
    +2
    Judges are supposed to base their decisions on the US Constitution--not their own backgrounds, not international law of the laws of other nations, and certainly not a savage code designed for no other purpose than to produce savage, Jew-killing cannon-fodder. This judge should be impeached for even considering a repeal of this law.
  • wers November 11, 2010 05:15:51
    No
    wers
    +3
    Ever notice how "ONE" federal judge....can dictate, nullify, or change law with "his" personal interpretation in every state in the Union? State's rights and soverignty must be strengthened, and supported by each state legislature, and these federal dictators must be stopped. Obama and crew have spent 2 years doing everything possible to strengthen the federal government and weaken the state's powers (ie. Arizona). Time for a real change!
  • The Gov-Here to help BN362 November 11, 2010 03:06:47
    No
    The Gov-Here to help BN362
    +2
    The judge who turned it should be booted off the bench. He needs to put down the pipe.
  • felicia November 11, 2010 01:40:05
    Undecided
    felicia
    Why do we even need to ban sharia law? It doesn't hold up in our courts anyway - it's a moot point.
  • Aurora November 11, 2010 01:32:51
    No
    Aurora
    +1
    Well what would us voters do if not for the justice system, California has done this many times.
  • Watchful November 11, 2010 01:00:49
    No
    Watchful
    +2
    Sharia Law be D*MNED. They can stay in their own country and have all the d*mn Sharia Law they want. But keep that sh!t out of America, because we do not want it.
  • Maria November 10, 2010 23:23:05
    No
    Maria
    +2
    Heck this is America and don't need Sharia law on America's soil.. period end of story.
  • Murph November 10, 2010 23:15:25
    No
    Murph
    +1
    It's not an anti-Shari measure you boneheads. It's a pro-America measure.
  • pickelllly November 10, 2010 23:15:24
    No
    pickelllly
    +1
    This is America, they can live by American law, be punished by American law and they can just accept the fact that they either live and conduct their lives by American law or hit the road and of course, please don't come back!
  • EM1-SS November 10, 2010 22:17:51
    Yes
    EM1-SS
    These immigrants should either go back return to their original home, or assimilate.

    In the event they wish to live by Sharia Law, they are welcome to do so, provided they follow the law of the land. So if they marry their 6 year old cousin, they should then be prepared to be in prison for child molestation, rape, and torture.

    And then their bubba cell mate will teach them all about forbidden love. For 20 years.
  • LifeIsComedyPHAET November 10, 2010 20:07:54
    No
    LifeIsComedyPHAET
    +1
    Allowing Shariah law would compromise our justice system.
    Half of Nigeria follows Shariah Law, half of it does not, and look at how unstable that country is!
    Shariah law doesn't bow to Federal law which even State laws must adhere to. It can't be controlled by our government and it promotes independent rule within the US which is far to risky and dangerous to ever allow.
  • snowbird November 10, 2010 18:25:46
    No
    snowbird
    +2
    The Constitution is the Law of this Nation...If the Muslims don't like it they can leave. They call Shariah Law a religious entity, not so...it is an ideology that is an abomination which subjects women to stoning, honor killings, death for any infraction that those barbarians dream up. IMHO that judge should be removed from the bench for even thinking about blocking the rights of the American Voters in Oklahoma to satisfy an ideology that is foreign to our nation.
  • kobidobidog November 10, 2010 18:24:14 (edited)
    Undecided
    kobidobidog
    The law of Love which Jesus showed to all, and is recorded in the king James is the solution.. He was not a warmonger.He is,a healer of hearts, and bodies lifting humans up, freeing their bonds setting humans free giving life to the soul, and giving it more abundantly loving even his enemies doing good. America does not keep the law of love,and the evidence is rewarding evil for evil,and God says we should not reward evil for evil. When a person rearwards good for evil will make the evil humans good by giving them light,and evil hides from the light. What is left are humans ready to live in heaven in harmony forever,and a planet with peaceful humans to populate that heaven. Up until now that it is not what humans have done throughout history,and that is why we have had the blood shed that we have had. When we start loving we will prepare our hearts to live in heaven. We will also prepare others hearts as well. All of them will give all the Glory to the one who made the universe,and all that man did not make forever who is the Lord God Jesus Christ placing our our crowns before him in adoration forever.
  • AmVet kobidob... November 11, 2010 13:14:25
    AmVet
    Remember not to long ago one sicko Sharia Law idiot killed his two daughters because they were socializing with non muslin boys.
  • kobidob... AmVet November 27, 2010 02:16:13
    kobidobidog
    +1
    Whatever a human does will have to be answer to God,and not us, Romans 14;10-13,
  • AmVet kobidob... November 29, 2010 14:09:13
    AmVet
    The citizens of the United States do not have to be a party to it, to allow crimes to be committed is as bad as committing them.
  • kobidob... AmVet December 10, 2010 07:02:13
    kobidobidog
    All, should be taught to love their neighbor as themselves,and terrorists etc, will fade away realizing God is not a God of war at all,and get ready for a peaceful heaven having that peaceful heaven in us now.That is extremely important before the light of God rolls the heavens apart like a scroll when he comes back,and those that have that love in them will not run from that brilliant light. Those that teach this not ,and act like Satan will die like Satan will die.
  • kmay November 10, 2010 17:51:44
    No
    kmay
    +1
    Jewish or Cannon law is not allowed, why should Sharia???
  • Skater62 November 10, 2010 16:08:34
    No
    Skater62
    +1
    If the judge blocks this anti-sharia measure, there is a lot of rope available.
  • LastRanger November 10, 2010 16:02:40
    No
    LastRanger
    +1
    This judge is a moron:
    First – the referendum very simply enforces the first amendment. Shariah law is a complete albeit much obfuscated body of law based solely on a religion. Not permitted here.

    Second and the most heinous part of the order, unintended consequences: By saying that the referendum banning the use of shariah law us ‘unconstitutional’ this decision now becomes a precedent in stare decisis. Which now implicitly says that shariah CAN be used in determining legal matters.
    Analyst, Ph.D.
  • ducdodger November 10, 2010 15:22:35
    No
    ducdodger
    Again another can't cut it judge legislating form the bench. It's time for guys like this judge to be thrown out and the law license stripped from them. Just in case he was to stupid to under stand what shria law is. Its the muslim version of state statutes and they believe that shria supecedes all other laws.
  • kobidob... ducdodger November 10, 2010 18:32:04 (edited)
    kobidobidog
    If the one who wants to pass the Shria to supersede all other laws is wrong because the unifying law of God is love,and have not that law,and chaos will be the result.Have that law,and military armies will vanish like smoke in the wind.jails will crumble to powder,and the death penalty will be narrowly looked upon, and despised.
  • shadow76 November 10, 2010 15:16:15
    No
    shadow76
    We should not have Foriegn law in The United States of America. If anyone wants sharia law they should go to a place that already has it.
  • FeelHood H. Obama~BN2 November 10, 2010 15:15:34
    Undecided
    FeelHood H. Obama~BN2
    +2
    If this stupid law violates the 1st Amendment, then yes.

    The Ten Commandments falls under the same category.
  • lauren dull November 10, 2010 15:12:27
    No
    lauren dull
    This judge should be thrown off the bench for sure!! This is America and we follow America Law ONLY!!!
  • JasonKaas November 10, 2010 15:10:42
    No
    JasonKaas
    As I just said in another topic. WTF is wrong with our country. Oh I'm sorry you are allowed to marry a 9 year old in your country so of course you can do that here. Have sex with that kiddie. Its ok really..........ENJOY!

    No wonder everyone wants to come here. We are the FU*K do anything you want country.
  • bob November 10, 2010 14:54:41 (edited)
    No
    bob
    If the judge should consider the Sharia law? Never!

    However if judges are not allowed to take religious beliefs into consideration for muslims then they should not be allowed to do so when it comes to any other religion.

    The native americans should stop being allowed to consume peyote in their native american churches.

    The amish should be denied their lifestyle and any christian/jewish/any other religious organization should imediatly be taken off of ALL "tax exempt" lists!
  • T Bevan November 10, 2010 14:33:38
    No
    T Bevan
    TRO , temporary.

    I believe we live in America , w live by our laws!
  • Informed Voter November 10, 2010 14:13:53
    No
    Informed Voter
    The PEOPLE of Oklahoma have spoken! The People are the source of the power of government, NOT some activist Judge! Besides, the Legislative Referendum passed is quite specific in providing that liberal holy of holies, that a "wall of separation between church and state" be honored! So, what's the problem here?

    "STATE QUESTION NO. 755 LEGISLATIVE REFERENDUM NO. 355
    This measure amends the State Constitution. It changes a section that deals with the courts of this state. It would amend Article 7, Section 1. It makes courts rely on federal and state law when deciding cases. It forbids courts from considering or using international law. It forbids courts from considering or using Sharia Law. International law is also known as the law of nations. It deals with the conduct of international organizations and independent nations, such as countries, states and tribes. It deals with their relationship with each other. It also deals with some of their relationships with persons.The law of nations is formed by the general assent of civilized nations. Sources of international law also include international agreements, as well as treaties. Sharia Law is Islamic law. It is based on two principal sources, the Koran and the teaching of Mohammed.
    SHALL THE PROPOSAL BE APPROVED? FOR THE...
    The PEOPLE of Oklahoma have spoken! The People are the source of the power of government, NOT some activist Judge! Besides, the Legislative Referendum passed is quite specific in providing that liberal holy of holies, that a "wall of separation between church and state" be honored! So, what's the problem here?

    "STATE QUESTION NO. 755 LEGISLATIVE REFERENDUM NO. 355
    This measure amends the State Constitution. It changes a section that deals with the courts of this state. It would amend Article 7, Section 1. It makes courts rely on federal and state law when deciding cases. It forbids courts from considering or using international law. It forbids courts from considering or using Sharia Law. International law is also known as the law of nations. It deals with the conduct of international organizations and independent nations, such as countries, states and tribes. It deals with their relationship with each other. It also deals with some of their relationships with persons.The law of nations is formed by the general assent of civilized nations. Sources of international law also include international agreements, as well as treaties. Sharia Law is Islamic law. It is based on two principal sources, the Koran and the teaching of Mohammed.
    SHALL THE PROPOSAL BE APPROVED? FOR THE PROPOSAL — YES
    AGAINST THE PROPOSAL — NO"
    ref: http://www.ok.gov/elections/d...

    This referendum was passed by a whopping 70 percent!
    ref: Ref: http://www.ballotpedia.org/wi...

    So once again, we have an out of control government placing the legal machinery of injunction upon the will of a sovereign state's population! (And at the same time, trashing the Constitution!)
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  • Lordphoton999 November 10, 2010 14:05:07 (edited)
    No
    Lordphoton999
    +1
    I spend a great deal of time on similar post on SH sounding the alarm that Shariah law is slowly trying to creep into our society and into our court system, but those that refuse to believe and kept insisting "separation of Church and State" prevent them from doing so better wake up, the battle is just getting started, this case will go all the way to the US supreme Court and I hope the majority of the Constitutionalist Justices will strike down Shariah law which hides behind their religion and trying to use our laws against us, that's why Presidential election matters, if we get more Justices like Ruth Joan Bader Ginsburg, Sonia Sotomayor and Elena Kagan, the court will flip and anything goes.
  • Netminder69 November 10, 2010 14:02:28
    No
    Netminder69
    +1
    Such measures are needed. Otherwise we'll see more cases like the one in NJ where a judge wouldn't issue a restraining order for a woman because her husband argued it was his religious right to rape his wife. Go go religion of peace!!
  • AshleyN... Netmind... November 10, 2010 14:41:33 (edited)
    AshleyNicoleCook
    wtf?! why would you WANT to rape your wife? Religious right or not ...She KNOWS where you SLEEP! and um, Judge....supreme fail on up holding the constitution
  • sheratan November 10, 2010 13:52:22
    Yes
    sheratan
    +2
    I believe that the judgement was justified. Yes sharia laws are backwards and against the constitution.

    However, the republicans were really "trolling" the islamist. There is no danger of sharia law overtaking the system. Why pass a law for a non-existent problem?
  • Netmind... sheratan November 10, 2010 14:00:29
    Netminder69
    +3
    Tell that to the woman in NJ who couldn't get a restraining order against her husband who was raping her because the judge believed he was exercising his religious freedom when he argued it was his religious right to force his wife to have sex with him. Yep... real conspiracy theory that one.
  • Scott sheratan November 10, 2010 14:10:54
    Scott
    +1
    The law is important because of the behavior history of Islam and activist courts. Islamists have pushed their sharia law on France and England. And, with the history of activist courts here in the USA there is every reason to believe that the court will ignore the Constitution once again.

    As far as it being a non-existent problem, well, who would have thought it would be such a struggle to protect the lives of unborn babies. How could anyone have known that it would be important to specify that men and women marry - period, or that the government has a responsibility to protect it's borders and it's citizens. No, I think Oklahoma is exactly right to be pro-active in it's defense of liberty.
  • merlinskiss November 10, 2010 13:48:23
    Undecided
    merlinskiss
    +1
    I am not sure I get it quite frankly. State laws take precedence over local laws, and federal law over both of those. Sharia law is in direct conflict with US laws and not recognized in US courts.

    All the injunction does is block the certification of the vote in to law. If it does get thrown out, nothing changes. If it is allowed, nothing changes?
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