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Should Israel be forced to cut itself in half AGAIN?

Step Up For Israel 2012/07/02 17:49:57
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Both modern day Israel and Jordan were part of the British Mandate of Palestine and they were both originally set aside by international authorities to become a Jewish State. At the San Remo Conference in 1920 the League of Nations decided to cut up this land and gave the land east of the Jordan River (modern-day Jordan) to the Arab population living under the Mandate, more than 75% of the Jewish National Homeland!

Now, there is international pressure for Israel to cut up even more of its land and give away the historically and religiously important regions of Judea and Samaria, which make up 22% of the current map of Israel. Should the Jewish Nation agree to this, Israel will encompass the ret dot on the map of the Middle East below. There are 22 Arab Muslim countries. There is just one Jewish country and people keep cutting it in half! Is this just?

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  • Susanne DeWitt 2012/07/02 19:42:51
    No
    Susanne DeWitt
    +12
    Israel is a tiny country of which half is desert. Israel is the state for the Jews. We must have a safe and secure Israel and not lose one inch. It is a democracy and has many non-Jewish citizens.
    Sanne DeWitt

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  • tvmediacompany 2012/07/02 20:00:16
    No
    tvmediacompany
    +4
    Time and time again all the Arab (Muslim) nations have not only proven it but have without shame verbalized it , that they want Israel off the map.No matter whats been given,sign, primed on or off deadline. The only Democratic nation in the region is Israel. The only productive and free nation in the region is Israel.They have come up with the best medical and tecnological ideas and advancements in the world. When an Arab leader or his family member is sick they secretly go to Israeli Doctors to be treated. This is never published. If there is an International crisis or disasters its the Israeli medics and experts on the way to help. Non of Ali Babas folks ever go help.When the Palestinians have gone everywhere -Syria- Lebanon- Jordan- Saudi Arabia etc.. etc.. they have been treated like dogs and slaughtered. This never gets published.. Thats why when asked where they rather live they and their relatives in Israel quietly always say: "Better with these dreadful Jews than with our own" The only thing Arab nations have in common is that they hate Israel and Jews. Because otherwise their hatred for each other is what makes life a bit more bearable for Israelis. if the terrorist drop their arms there will be peace. If Israel drops its arms there will be no Israel ! And last but n...
    Time and time again all the Arab (Muslim) nations have not only proven it but have without shame verbalized it , that they want Israel off the map.No matter whats been given,sign, primed on or off deadline. The only Democratic nation in the region is Israel. The only productive and free nation in the region is Israel.They have come up with the best medical and tecnological ideas and advancements in the world. When an Arab leader or his family member is sick they secretly go to Israeli Doctors to be treated. This is never published. If there is an International crisis or disasters its the Israeli medics and experts on the way to help. Non of Ali Babas folks ever go help.When the Palestinians have gone everywhere -Syria- Lebanon- Jordan- Saudi Arabia etc.. etc.. they have been treated like dogs and slaughtered. This never gets published.. Thats why when asked where they rather live they and their relatives in Israel quietly always say: "Better with these dreadful Jews than with our own" The only thing Arab nations have in common is that they hate Israel and Jews. Because otherwise their hatred for each other is what makes life a bit more bearable for Israelis. if the terrorist drop their arms there will be peace. If Israel drops its arms there will be no Israel ! And last but not least: If you offer $10,000 for an Arab to have their child be a suicide bomber and kill 100 Israelis you'll get some takers.If you offer $10,000,000 for a Jew to have his child be a suicide bomber and kill 10,000 Arabs: YOU WILL HAVE NO TAKERS. And that my friend is not a guesstimate but a proven reality.
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  • Space Invader 2012/07/02 19:54:19
    No
    Space Invader
    +5
    Israel; we stand with you!! Be strong against those that hate you.......ya know like Barry; and Hillary; and the MB, and all the dirty little terrorists in the world.....Israel will prevail..
  • Tim Upham 2012/07/02 19:53:04
    Undecided
    Tim Upham
    It depends on what you mean by forced to cut itself in half again? The problem is, that we have two people trying to share the same piece of land the same size as the state of New Jersey. What was done in 1947, was that the United Nations General Assembly voted to partition Palestine into an Arab state and a Jewish state. We need to go back to that original proposal. Because it has been nothing but a tug-of-war over land possession, so just give them both a piece of land to live on.
  • Lana Ri... Tim Upham 2012/07/02 20:25:14
    Lana Riley-Brown
    +1
    You are so right. It was 60 years ago and has been nothing but trouble ever since. It would only be right and fair to give half to Palestine and half to the folks that are squatting on the land.
  • John Bo... Tim Upham 2012/07/02 21:37:20
    John Bonner
    Each time the Arab states have attacked Israel they have lost land in the declaration of war on the Israeli state. They both have a piece of land to live on, Israel peacefully attempts to allow the Arabs to work and live there and even offers employment to those who desire it, but it appears no Arab will be happy until Ahmadinejad's plan of removing Israel from the map has come to fruition. It was attempted in 1948 and 1967 and each time the Arab Palestinians lost land to Israel by declaring war on Israel. Give it back??? No way. Ever see someone win a pot in poker give it back? Declaring war is the same such proposition. The Arab-Palestinians lost the land to Israel in an act of war against Israel. Too bad, so sad.
  • Tim Upham John Bo... 2012/07/05 20:50:48
    Tim Upham
    The surrounding Arab nations never declared war on Israel. That was formally done during World War II. Israel has always viewed it as an exchange of land for peace, which is what they did by giving back the Sinai to Egypt. Jordan renounced all claims to the West Bank, and Israel and Jordan signed a peace treaty in 1994. Ahmadinejad is not even Arab, he is Persian -- a Indo-European people, and he just talks, talks, and talks. The Palestinians have never declared war on Israel, and both Israel and Palestine LIberation Organization signed the Oslo Accords in 1993, which laid the foundations for Israel to recognize a Palestinian state. I have been there numerous times, and had seen first hand how both Israelis and Palestinians are tired of war. If we say too bad, so sad it will just perpetually feed the conflict, that will always make it a theatre of war.
  • sharonjohnson 2012/07/02 19:50:24
    No
    sharonjohnson
    +1
    let justice be for one n all
  • Lana Ri... sharonj... 2012/07/02 20:28:46
    Lana Riley-Brown
    +1
    Could we start here in the USA and stop being the cops of the world ?
  • Martin Spilker 2012/07/02 19:49:07
    Yes
    Martin Spilker
    +4
    The land covenant of the Old Testament ended with Christ's crucifixion. Zionism is not part of God's plan of redemption.
  • Lana Ri... Martin ... 2012/07/02 20:26:08
    Lana Riley-Brown
    Right you are.
  • John Bo... Martin ... 2012/07/02 21:12:25
    John Bonner
    I would contest that statement based on a little research found here... http://www.newcreation.org.au...
  • Walaa 2012/07/02 19:46:45
    Yes
    Walaa
    +3
    Well let us see what these lands youv taken contain contain compared to the other so called "useful" 75%.. Doesnt change the fact that Israel is an invador..

    Those who disagree and are planning on having long discussions I respect your opinions but I apologize for my lack of willingness to get into any debates. Got tired of them honestly, not that I dont care but I started to realize once someone truly believes in something it is difficult to change their minds specially in such matters. People will never agree to one opinion, thats the thing with opinions, it's diversity..
  • Lana Ri... Walaa 2012/07/02 20:08:01
    Lana Riley-Brown
    +1
    You are so right. Thanks for a honest post.
  • Heptarch Walaa 2012/07/02 20:08:33
    Heptarch
    That's what the Palestinians get for supporting the wrong side in WWII. Just sayin'.
  • Walaa Heptarch 2012/07/03 19:25:01
    Walaa
    What a concept, should others like germany ALSO deserve invasion too because they "supported the wrong side" ONCE UPON A TIME, this isnt a game and revenge seeking tool its WAR.
  • Heptarch Walaa 2012/07/03 19:44:15
    Heptarch
    War is a harsh reality. Germany suffered a great deal after WWs One and Two. After the Holocaust, it was clear the Jews needed a place of their own. That place was going to be in their ancestral homelands and the Palestinians were on the hook.

    Is it morally right? Probably not, no. But it's the reality of war. If the Palestinians hadn't been such dicks, maybe they wouldn't have gotten the shaft.
  • Walaa Heptarch 2012/07/03 21:32:37
    Walaa
    Thats some way of justifying things.. Admitting its not morally right yet disregarding it due to revenge seeking.. So the entire country must pay for "hurting" your sides feelings for not siding with them.. And your generalization does bother me, its not like there was a vote to see who the country is to side with. Just dont call an entire nationality as dicks.
  • Heptarch Walaa 2012/07/03 21:44:39
    Heptarch
    "So the entire country must pay for "hurting" your sides feelings for not siding with them.'

    No. They have to pay for supporting and conducting genocide.
  • Walaa Heptarch 2012/07/03 21:48:27
    Walaa
    +1
    Lets not forget similar things the us has carried out in the PAST too. Do they deserve to have war launched on them because of their "bad deeds"? Or is it just different when its your country because well its YOUR country, its fault/error/mistake free?
  • Heptarch Walaa 2012/07/03 22:20:28
    Heptarch
    +1
    "Do they deserve to have war launched on them because of their "bad deeds"?"

    We won our war against the Native Americans. A series of them, actually. You don't have to agree that the reasons for waging those wars are moral. I certainly don't.

    But we don't live in a world governed by morals. We live in a world governed by power. Do you think you'd be wringing your hands about the treatment of the Jews 60 years ago if your side had won? I doubt it. You would have been raised to believe that the Jews had been a dire threat to the world and had to be eliminated... and they wouldn't be around to dispute the lies.

    Thankfully, however, the Allies won the war. Thankfully we were able to hold the Nazis, Japanese and their allies accountable for their attempted genocide. Today's Palestinians are paying the price for the abysmal choices their grandfathers and fathers made and they're not helping themselves by supporting terrorism, which every powerful nation on Earth openly deplores.
  • Walaa Heptarch 2012/07/03 22:54:55 (edited)
    Walaa
    The US denied entrance to several boatloads of Jews during WWII didnt they..
    Its part of the past, countries are over hating Jews at least my people are arabs generally, its 2012.
    Supporting terrorism? Are you aware of the campaignes held in the entire Middle East against terrorism because it is something the general public an the governement DO NOT agree to. A form of terrorism is to kill unjustly torture basically make people live in terror.. As I see it Palestians are scared and are frightnered MUCH more than Israelis, ONE bomb killed 3000 innocent souls in 9/11 that was one bomb, they have been through much more, this one bomb that America experienced have shock the entire nation, see how people were scared and frightened thats terrorism, whats the difference between that and 9/11? Consider that this bomb was the result of the UNJUST attack on Iraq (of course I dont agree to the terrorist attack or the war on Iraq), most people saw that Iraq was a huge mistake, so do the American people deserve to go through much pain due to the Presidents mistake?
  • Heptarch Walaa 2012/07/03 23:04:34
    Heptarch
    If you really think that Middle Eastern Arab countries are over hating the Jews, I don't know what to say to you. That's so clearly untrue that I'm a little baffled by you.

    It very well may be true that the general Arab doesn't support terrorism... but that certainly hasn't stopped it from flourishing in Arab countries, has it? Maybe they should do a better job of squashing it if they don't want to be painted with that brush, eh?

    Sure Palestinians are scared. They are basically powerless. Whenever you're powerless, you're scared and you resort to extremes. Hence why they've supported anti-Israeli terrorism for decades. But see, that's a double edged sword. As soon as you resort to those tactics, your moral high ground goes bye bye. You can't really claim a moral high ground for Palestinians any more because they support terrorism.

    "Consider that this bomb was the result of the UNJUST attack on Iraq"

    No it wasn't. Planning for that attack began long before the war in Iraq.
  • Walaa Heptarch 2012/07/03 23:12:51
    Walaa
    I'm middle eastern, I live in Bahrain luckily NOTHING like Saudi, I do know what I'm saying when I say we are over it. Iran and Saudi maybe not but the rest are.
    I happen to take part in terrorism awareness campaignes being young I do small things like give out hand outs. So yes I assure you, about 97% are compeletly against terrorism in the Arab world. Terrorist planning attacks are mostly to be carried out in Pakistan rather than the Middle East. Where has it flourished exactly?
    You must also know that there are both private and governmental institute to stop any form of terrorist "thinking".
    How did they "support" terrorism EXACTLY? Educate me, I dont mind.
    I kow it was, but thats why I said CONSIDER. Would it make it right?
  • Heptarch Walaa 2012/07/03 23:19:41
    Heptarch
    Sorry, but when you have Hamas and the Muslim Brotherhood being elected in Democratic elections, you can't claim that terrorism isn't supported.

    Egypt, Syria, Saudi Arabia, Iran and Yemen are well-known for their state support of terrorists. Whenever you have people supporting Hezbollah, Hamas and the Muslim Brotherhood, you have people supporting terrorism. I challenge, directly, your assertion that 97% of Middle Eastern Arabs are against terrorism because of that.
  • Walaa Heptarch 2012/07/03 23:25:02 (edited)
    Walaa
    Did you see any attack being carried out by them yet?
    Egypt is in the continent of Africa, Syria Iran and Yemen arent ARAB. Arab countries include Saudi. Which I do not support much due to their inequality. Countries that are not Arab are not in very good terms with my region.. Palestine isnt arab, and its identity have been wiped offf. Hezbullah is group that have made it "ok" to have people like myself killed, and yet they have not dared to kill one of my kind. Again these groups are not Arabs, those arabs are terrorists group in Saudi. The rest do not represent us.
    And saudi happens to be one country out of 4 others.
  • zitamay Heptarch 2012/07/14 00:42:36
    zitamay
    Besides the Holy Quran itself support "terrorism"....so if you a believer and don't support terrorism you reject your book and the Prophet.
  • Heptarch zitamay 2012/07/14 01:26:06
    Heptarch
    "Besides the Holy Quran itself support "terrorism"

    Just as the Bible does. So if you're a Christian and don't support terror, you reject god and his "holy" gospel.
  • John Bo... Walaa 2012/07/02 21:16:38
    John Bonner
    Interesting concept. The land was basically all useless until Israel returned to in and began the hard work of restoring it. So the reason it is now "useful" is from Israel's presence... The original land grant post diaspora is a land grant from the UN. Not an invasion in my book, don't know about yours... However it seems you have made up your mind and will not be swayed by any reasonable explanation. So be it, one supposes. Nonetheless, Blessings!
  • Walaa John Bo... 2012/07/03 19:23:27
    Walaa
    Oh man you need to KNOW people that were there expand your information resources my friend. Please look at the time where the country was invaded, it was a time where other middle eastern countries have just started looking up other areas or spots of oil.. Dont make it look like the "saved" the Palestinians they were going to find the oil sooner or later.. If we were to think that every race that ONCE lived in an area, has the right to gain back again now that they have the "ability" to do so should. Then the Indians should consider invading America too..
    Yes you are right I have set my mind in this specific matter. I have changed and gone back and forth on where I stand but now I am sure.
  • Smuwf, Twin 2012/07/02 19:46:22
    No
    Smuwf, Twin
    +1
    Let them have their land,they've had enough trouble through the years as it is.
  • Skeptikat 2012/07/02 19:45:25
  • Elaine 2012/07/02 19:44:59
    No
    Elaine
    +6
    Hell NO! It's their country and the Palestinian gypsies should pack it up and get the hell out! Heck, nobody else wants them in the Middle east either!
  • none Elaine 2012/07/02 20:23:09
    none
    Up until the 1967 war there there never were palestinians, they are made up and so is palestine but after a lie is told enough times foolish people start to believe it.
  • Susanne DeWitt 2012/07/02 19:42:51
    No
    Susanne DeWitt
    +12
    Israel is a tiny country of which half is desert. Israel is the state for the Jews. We must have a safe and secure Israel and not lose one inch. It is a democracy and has many non-Jewish citizens.
    Sanne DeWitt
  • Lana Ri... Susanne... 2012/07/02 20:10:27
    Lana Riley-Brown
    It is a land that was gicen to them in the 40's as nobody wanted them.
  • zitamay Lana Ri... 2012/07/14 00:48:27
    zitamay
    there are so many Islamic countries...there is one small Jewish country....nobody really see what's going on? Muhammad hated the Jews so his followers...besides they are not supposed ti give uo ANY land which was already under Islam. When the were spreading Islam forcefully Jews were not willing to convert so they lost their own country. If we really want to understand we have to dig way deeper than 60 or so years.....
  • ConLibF... Susanne... 2012/07/02 20:18:48
    ConLibFraud
    Sure and whatever the cost .... YOU PAY FOR IT!
  • none 2012/07/02 17:56:30
    No
    none
    +6
    They should and knowing Israel they will tell Arab nations and the UN to pound sand.
  • Lana Ri... none 2012/07/02 20:16:05
    Lana Riley-Brown
    +1
    You are right, they are very nasty people that no one wanted.
  • Ashes Lana Ri... 2012/07/03 06:33:54
    Ashes
    As one of these people, I agree most of them are nasty people..

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