Should "In God We Trust" be taken off of US money?
LaChica
2008/05/07 05:14:11
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Plus, I already write on it any way, smart one.
I thought you religious folk were supposed to obey laws even if you wouldn't get caught. I guess you have to think that a magical god will get angry at you in order to think that its bad.
Ahh, yes, our God is very magical and wonderful isn't he!
But God would be upset, cause it is a sin to disobey the laws. And I try not to sin, but I'm human. It's wrong, I feel bad, but it happens.
If you're going to be gullible enough to believe in a mythical being, you might as well worship the original. Horus, the Egyptian god, was around LONG before the idea of Jesus and is the inspiration for the majority of the stories about Jesus.
http://www.religioustolerance...
It doesn't matttter what any scientist or any other smart 'logical' person has to say about my Jesus. I know he's real, I talked to him just a second ago. He's my best friend. To you he may be just some mythological thing, but to me he is as real as it gets.
And yes I do realize that I sound phsycotic, but it's the truth.
And another thing. People(like you) are mean to me and try to persecute me because I believe in God and Jesus. But what I want to know, is what is so wrong with that. I mean, even if he isn't real, what is so wrong with me wanting to believe in something like that, and what is so wrong with me jsut trying to be a better person because of it? As long as I'm not forcing it down your throught and trying to make you believe then why does it make me such a horrid person??
And you said how could any ADULT believe in those fairy tales..... "Unless you change and become like children, you will never enter the kingdom of Heaven." Matthew 18:3....Well there you go, I'm like a child! And wasn't life just so much more wonderful when you're a litttle kid and you believed, with all your heart, in Santa, the easter bunny, and the tooth fairy?
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Humans are intelligent enough to be good people without having to believe in imaginary beings. I do not believe you are a horrid person in any way, I simply feel that you are misguided. I don't doubt that you believe that Jesus is real, just as people used to believe that the Earth was flat.
I commend you for keeping a positive attitude during this conversation, I really don't have any negative feelings towards you personally, simply against the plague of 'gods' on Earth. Every time someone kills in the name of Allah, or God, or Jesus, or whatever mythical creature you want, they convince themselves that believing that its ok makes it ok.
For what its worth, I'm glad that you follow the Jesus stories rather than some of the other gods. While its silly to believe that he's real, following the simple teachings of: Be good to one another, respect those around you, try to make the world a better place even if it requires sacrifice, and so on are a great way to lead a happy and fulfilling life.
Back to the original point of this conversation, while I can be tolerant ...
Humans are intelligent enough to be good people without having to believe in imaginary beings. I do not believe you are a horrid person in any way, I simply feel that you are misguided. I don't doubt that you believe that Jesus is real, just as people used to believe that the Earth was flat.
I commend you for keeping a positive attitude during this conversation, I really don't have any negative feelings towards you personally, simply against the plague of 'gods' on Earth. Every time someone kills in the name of Allah, or God, or Jesus, or whatever mythical creature you want, they convince themselves that believing that its ok makes it ok.
For what its worth, I'm glad that you follow the Jesus stories rather than some of the other gods. While its silly to believe that he's real, following the simple teachings of: Be good to one another, respect those around you, try to make the world a better place even if it requires sacrifice, and so on are a great way to lead a happy and fulfilling life.
Back to the original point of this conversation, while I can be tolerant of your beliefs, and am glad that you have chosen a life of peace and happiness, I still feel that it is ridiculous for our government to place that on all our legal tender. There is no such thing as "God" as much as people want to believe it, and America, in its entirety, does not Trust in him. The First Amendment clearly states that "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion".
Claiming national belief in a god is respecting an establishment of religion!
Those who agree with the statement "In God We Trust" choose to ignore this because it fits their beliefs.
Will you simply agree with me that YOU like the statement there, but that it does, in fact, go against the First Amendment?
Technically it doesn't go against the first amendment cause it's not makking a law respecting a religion. It just simply states that we live under God. But it's not a law that we have to believe that.
but it is our motto. im sure other nations have mottos that many of their people may not support either, but they obviously havent complained....but then again, some of those nations are under communism. if that makes any sense...:]
And, you can still pray in school all you want: That is a common misconception pushed forth by anti-atheist groups. Prayer in school cannot be led by the school. Students can pray all they want, provided they aren't disturbing the education of others.
Belief in a god is not something a secular government should engage in.
In God We Trust was first used on paper money in 1957 when it appeared on the one-dollar Silver Certificate. The first paper currency bearing the motto entered circulation on October 1, 1957. The Bureau of Engraving and Printing (BEP) was converting to the dry intaglio printing process. During this conversion, it gradually included In God We Trust in the back design of all classes and denominations of currency.
Just like "under god" was added to the Pledge. People have many misconceptions where it comes to what they believe in. Religious zealots have constantly imposed their beliefs on others. When the vocal majority overwhelms the non-vocal majority, things happen. Plain and simple.
We have a lot of religious people in the US. We are NOT a religious country. But, people constantly try to make sure that THEIR beliefs are the ones pushed on others.
Just the facts, ma'am, just the facts...
R
just the facts sir, just facts
"My own feeling in the matter is due to my very firm conviction that to put such a motto on coins, or to use it in any kindred manner, not only does no good but does positive harm, and is in effect irreverence which comes dangerously close to sacrilege. A beautiful and solemn sentence such as the one in question should be treated and uttered only with that fine reverence which necessarily implies a certain exaltation of spirit. Any use which tends to cheapen it, and above all, any use which tends to secure its being treated in a spirit of levity, is from every standpoint profoundly to be regretted. " --- TDR 1907
The way to see by faith is to shut the eye of reason: The Morning Daylight appears plainer when you put out your Candle.
Lighthouses are more helpful then churches.
and heres the link if you dont believe me, http://leftofzen.com/tag/anti...
My closing point is some people are never happy, and should learn to accept things as they are.
I prefer mine with "In God We Trust" on it.It has been that way since I was born,
god but don't take it away from those of us who do. This is America and if you don't like to follow our rules and customs, like we have to in other countries, then leave. No more pressing one for English!!! No more special favors for non-Americans.