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Should Guns Be Allowed on Trains?

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Start packing those AK-47s for the train ride, because starting Dec. 15, Amtrak will allow passengers to store legally owned and unloaded guns onboard.

Since Sept. 11, 2001, guns have been banned on the taxpayer-subsidized commuter trains. But gun advocates said the edict was hasty.

"I think it was an overreaction based on I think some incorrect attitudes on the part of Amtrak and their leadership after 9/11," Senator Roger Wicker, the Mississippi Republican who proposed lifting the ban, told ABC News, "and frankly I think it was anti-gun, anti-hunter, anti-sportsman and unfair."

But said Daniel Vice, senior attorney for the Brady Center to Prevent Gun Violence, criticized the move.

"Once this takes effect," he told ABC News, "you would be able to check, for example, a dozen AK-47s onto an Amtrak train -- and once they're on there, the baggage car's not secure like a cargo hold of an airplane."

Commuters can check handguns, shotguns, rifles and starter pistols at stations that offer checked baggage service, including the stations in New York, Boston, Chicago and Washington, D.C, according to media reports. The guns must be unloaded and in approved locked hard-sided containers and passengers must declare their firearms and notify Amtrak 24 hours in advance.

More: http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/guns-amtrak-trains/s...

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  • Texas Johnny December 02, 2010 20:34:24
    Yes
    Texas Johnny
    +8
    Start Packing AK's? Please! I see that as a transparent attempt to paint gun owners as terrorists. I am a law abiding citizen. If I can carry a gun leagally on a train, I will.

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  • kaitlyn January 15, 2011 21:13:10
    No
    kaitlyn
    no of course not i dont think there should be guns at all!!!!!!!!! people just kill people witht them and then go 2 jail!!!!!!!!!!!
  • JimdODAT December 22, 2010 20:09:19
    Yes
    JimdODAT
    Let's be sure to give criminals the advantage over the good citizens and law enforcement ... by making sure that they are the only ones with the weapons. Be sure to disarm all of the law-abiding citizens as soon as possible, such as Germany did with the Jews before "open season" was declared against the Jewish people.
  • CHIEF December 22, 2010 18:13:15
    Undecided
    CHIEF
    why would i pack heat on a train.just american head trip about firearms.wild west an all that ROT.
  • USPatriot December 18, 2010 21:30:26
    Yes
    USPatriot
    Of course! 2nd Amendment rights!
  • Resp USPatriot December 31, 2010 17:38:38
    Resp
    I think they should allow guns on trains! They shouldn't allow citizens with guns and politicians on the same train at the same time. That is very unfortunate.
  • "TEX"-"OFT"-"ROOC"~POTL~PWC... December 12, 2010 14:12:45
    Yes
    "TEX"-"OFT"-"ROOC"~POTL~PWCM~JLA
    We have the right to protect ourselves. If some people choose not to that would be their choice but leave the law abiding citizens to their right to bear arms. I cannot understand why anyone would not want to defend themselves or their family if the situation called for it.
  • dougyarbrough30@yahoo.com December 12, 2010 02:32:17
    Yes
    dougyarbrough30@yahoo.com
    Stop messing with our constitutional rights ! The gun does'nt kill,its the person pulling the trigger.I also get tired of all of this discrimination rights garbage,if someone looks shady and somebody feels like the person is dangerous then check it out! white, Iraqian, afganistanian,Indian ,chinese,black,terrorist,or physco.Which is better,take an hour to check everybody out and hire somebody to do it,or just shine it and let the train blow up.U.S.A. people are spoiled, I don't mind showing up an hour early to feel safe, or I don't care if someone strips me naked and makes me yell God Bless America Either!
  • TJ Tommy James December 10, 2010 14:07:08
    Yes
    TJ Tommy James
    There is always a limit that common sense should prevail and recognize that AK-47's are a no-no, but I do believe that anyone that is 21 years of age and has a license showing that he/she has attended and graduated gun handling and safety should be allowed to carry a gun anyplace and at anytime. No other special permit should be needed.
  • Bill Ward December 09, 2010 15:19:22
    No
    Bill Ward
    That's like asking if guns should be allowed on planes.Apsolutely not!!!!!
  • PEPCIS December 09, 2010 12:56:35
    Yes
    PEPCIS
    Absolutely. Without guns, there is no protections against those who use them AGAINST people - criminals.
  • Andrew December 09, 2010 02:50:48
    Yes
    Andrew
    Only if the good guys are the ones who have them.
  • UrbanHillbilly December 08, 2010 18:31:46
    Undecided
    UrbanHillbilly
    I hit undecided by mistake. Of course, poeple should be allowed to transport their propperty.
  • brob1969 December 08, 2010 16:01:26
    No
    brob1969
    I don't think people should be allowed to carry a weapon on their person. If a person has a legal weapon and it is properly stored in the cargo compartment where it is out of reach until debarkation then I don't see a real problem.
  • LilMissLOL December 08, 2010 09:26:37
    No
    LilMissLOL
    GUNS SHOULDN'T BE ALLOWED ANYWHERE!!!
  • USPatriot LilMissLOL January 15, 2011 16:18:32
    USPatriot
    Mexico needs you. They have outlawed weapons in the entire country. You can see how well that's working! Go down there and tell the drug dealers in Mexico they must not have guns! During the next holdup, let me know how safe you feel.
  • LilMissLOL USPatriot January 17, 2011 11:01:30
    LilMissLOL
    You see, if their were no weapons in the first place, the enemy wouldn't have anything to hurt the police with, so then they could be controlled fairly.
  • Lonnie December 08, 2010 04:24:37
    Yes
    Lonnie
    Sure. While on the ground especially, law abiding citizens should be allowed to arm themselves.
  • brob1969 Lonnie December 08, 2010 16:02:23
    brob1969
    Technically speaking you are 42" above the ground when you are standing on the floor of a train car.
  • richie December 08, 2010 03:07:21
    Yes
    richie
    If everyone carried a gun there would be a lot less crime in this country
  • dlsofsetx December 07, 2010 20:19:12
    Yes
    dlsofsetx
    Unloaded guns do no harm.
  • richie dlsofsetx December 08, 2010 03:09:25
    richie
    +2
    An unloaded gun is no protection. But makes a great jack handle
  • KinnUzumaki December 07, 2010 12:35:32
    Yes
    KinnUzumaki
    yes of course guns should be allowed on trains...you never know anything might just come up...and also i have a personal experience that traveling is trains is quite dangerous.....its better to have a gun, you feel safe then...
  • brob1969 KinnUzu... December 08, 2010 16:04:05
    brob1969
    Do you feel safe knowing that others on the same train have a gun as well? Sure you may be sane, but is the guy standing behind you?
  • PEPCIS brob1969 December 09, 2010 12:58:22
    PEPCIS
    The only people that are not sane when holding a gun are criminals. The rest of us have to pass background checks.
  • KinnUzu... brob1969 December 19, 2010 16:37:49
    KinnUzumaki
    look i mean to say is you just feel safe having a gun....that doesn't mean you purposely get into a fight and then something big happens! and it doesn't matter if others are having guns or not....
    nobody likes to fight over something small...
  • joyce420 December 07, 2010 05:24:39
    Yes
    joyce420
    +2
    Most Americans should be allowed to arm themselves no matter where they are.
  • brob1969 joyce420 December 08, 2010 16:05:07
    brob1969
    So how does a security guard at a train station supposed to be able to tell the difference between a law-abiding American citizen and a murderous individual?
  • PEPCIS brob1969 December 09, 2010 13:00:17
    PEPCIS
    It's none of his business. Security guards don't need to know who can carry and who can't. They are there if there is trouble that breaks out. Or, if he is a guard that checks to make sure you belong in the facility, then he probably already has a right to check if you wear a gun. Otherwise, it ain't none of his business.
  • brob1969 PEPCIS December 09, 2010 13:27:16
    brob1969
    so by your account, you are totally fine with a criminal or terrorist having a gun on a train?
  • joyce420 brob1969 December 09, 2010 15:46:20
    joyce420
    +2
    If there are 25 law abiding citizens with guns, that one terrorist might have second thoughts about pulling his gun out.
  • brob1969 joyce420 December 10, 2010 01:44:02
    brob1969
    That one terrorist is going to be very discreetly making his way toward the engineer...
  • PEPCIS brob1969 December 11, 2010 17:10:02
    PEPCIS
    Let him. those 25 law abiding citizens with guns will have something to say about that.
  • PEPCIS brob1969 December 11, 2010 17:09:13
    PEPCIS
    You're being totally illogical, brob. I didn't even come close to indicating any such sentiment. What I said is very straightforward, and it boils down to this: if guns are outlawed, then the only people with guns will be outlaws. As it is right now, most places (like trains and airports), you cannot legally carry a gun, but there is no method in place for ensuring that everybody complies with that law in trains and train stations. So, the end result is that the only people who carry a gun on a train would be someone intent on harming other people, because the law-abiding citizen will not carry a gun where he is told he cannot. That's why he is "law-abiding."

    This means that the only people who have guns are those intent on harming others. My argument is that if people can legally carry a gun on a train, then they are able to not only protect themselves, but other people as well, against any terrorist who has a gun on a train, because (guess what?) terrorists are not law-abiding citizens, and they will carry a gun on a train if that facilitates their mission of hurting others.
  • chrish43 December 07, 2010 03:13:11
    Yes
    chrish43
    +1
    Law Abiding Citizens should be allowed to carry a firearm for personal protection ANY where they go. Why? Because we are LAW ABIDING! Duh!
  • pebbles chrish43 December 07, 2010 03:25:17
    pebbles
    +1
    i would make sure i wasnt on the same place you are
  • brob1969 chrish43 December 08, 2010 16:05:40
    brob1969
    So a criminal looks different to a security guard at the train station?
  • u000 December 06, 2010 13:24:02
    No
    u000
    +1
    What 4. Shooting bisons?
  • shooppinoo25 December 06, 2010 13:07:22
    No
    shooppinoo25
    +3
    nooooo!!!were not in a movie!!! =p
  • DanoRoman December 06, 2010 11:06:53
    Yes
    DanoRoman
    nevym o co tu de
  • Myrle Hulme December 06, 2010 09:59:54
    No
    Myrle Hulme
    I think to many accidents happen when can are on the loss
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