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Should Governments Have the Ability to Block Websites?

Christine Lusey 2011/06/23 11:00:00
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It sounds crazy, doesn't it? Even as we watch countries like Syria or Iran or China block websites or curtail Internet access altogether, we can hardly imagine it happening here.

Well, that's probably what England thought, too. But according to Boing Boing, a group of lobbyists (representing copyright holders) met privately with U.K. government officials to discuss plans that would create a committee of industry experts in charge of determining which websites should be blocked to U.K. citizens, and a fast track system to obtain a judge's sign-off on sites streaming events live. This is all according to a leaked document that presumably the public was never meant to see.

Aside from the myriad of technological problems (if a website is streaming a television show live, how fast could a judge really respond to objections from the copyright holder and then order the ISP to shut it down?), it certainly opens the door to everyone's worst fears about the government stepping beyond the bounds of copyright infringement to just blocking whatever it deems objectionable.

Are copyright holders left with no other options to combat piracy? Or is this going too far?

Read More: http://www.boingboing.net/2011/06/22/leaked-uk-cop...

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  • T1 Admiral J 2011/06/23 20:00:02
  • Jimbo 2011/06/23 18:40:19
    No
    Jimbo
    We spend over 80 billion a year to have an intelligence apparatus run by idiots at the top. Give me one week there and every time someone downloads from a terrorists site their computer gets infected with a virus they can't get rid of cleaning their drive and destroying the CPU.
  • sherry 2011/06/23 18:36:57
    No
    sherry
    +4
    Court trials are used to determine innocense/guilt. A lawless & corrupt government such as we have now are the reason that this is becoming a problem. My suggestion is We the People BLOCK THE GOVERNMENT!!!
  • Admiral J sherry 2011/06/23 19:30:06
    Admiral J
    +1
    Actually, this is a legal and freely elected (by a 2-1 margin in electoral college) administration. If your guy lost...I feel sorry for you. Try getting a better candidate next time. The out come might be more to your liking
  • David 2011/06/23 18:36:20
    No
    David
    +1
    Not just no but "Hell no!"
  • Boss 2011/06/23 18:35:11
    No
    Boss
    +1
    absolutely NO!!
  • Sexy Conservative 2011/06/23 18:34:47
    No
    Sexy Conservative
    Freedom of information act. We should be allowed to choose what websites we have access to without the gov't intervening.
  • jimrthy BN-0 2011/06/23 18:30:21
    No
    jimrthy BN-0
    +1
    1. Copyright laws and the companies that get rich from them are obsolete and need to be scrapped. They do more harm than good.
    2. The UK is, yet again, showing the rest of the free world how to take another step away from freedom. All the Americans who want gun control laws and universal health care need to remember that we broke away from them so we could be a free country.
  • MOJ 2011/06/23 18:21:11
    Undecided
    MOJ
    +1
    This reminds me of my time in Saudi Arabia. Almost everything was blocked by the government for reasons they don't even know. I used to use proxy softwares, but the thing that pissed me off is when the software connected me to a server based in freakin China. Thanks for nothing.
  • Calm down! 2011/06/23 18:20:37
    No
    Calm down!
    +1
    NO!!! Stop spending so much time and man power trying to babysit every single person on the internet and every little thing they say and start focusing on our freakin economy before China takes over!!! Where is the land of the FREE I learned about in history class? Leave us alone on the internet!!!
  • Ben 2011/06/23 18:20:00
    No
    Ben
    +5
    Everything from cute kittens to bomb-making should be allowed to be on the internet.
  • Delta 2011/06/23 18:07:07
    No
    Delta
    +2
    The internet does not belong to the government. The government needs to stay out of our lives!!!
  • Scott ヶBrony Of PHAETヶ 2011/06/23 18:05:15 (edited)
    Undecided
    Scott ヶBrony Of PHAETヶ
    +3
    Depends on the website...

    Sites with illegal content, terrorist sites, sites that tell you how to make home-made bombs to name a few that should be banned.
    However watching the Government go after the internet for the sake of big pocketed companies is saddening.


    England or the UK? Make up your mind...
  • jgh57 Scott ヶ... 2011/06/23 18:10:03
    jgh57
    Who gets to decide. What if governments start labeling those with different political views as subversive or terrorist. This is a very slippery slope
  • Scott ヶ... jgh57 2011/06/23 18:51:54
    Scott ヶBrony Of PHAETヶ
    +2
    Lets say the Taliban have a website (which they do)... that is a terrorist website, a website that is controlled by a terrorist organisation and promotes terrorism is a terrorist website. No slippery slope here.

    What about child pornography websites? Should they be banned or not?
    Websites that teach you how to amke home-made bombs?
    Etc etc
  • jgh57 Scott ヶ... 2011/06/23 18:53:51
    jgh57
    You make valid points. I would agree they should be banned. However this is a slippery slope. The same tool that could be used for good could also be used for bad.
  • Mr.Hood... Scott ヶ... 2011/06/23 19:13:44 (edited)
    Mr.Hoodz the Truth Troll
    +1
    I'm sure if you would ask Middle Eastern person that had to flee drones if a US military website was a terrorist website he would tell you yes. As for bombs I can just go purchase the anarchist cookbook or should that book to be banned? Only thing I agree that should be banned is child porn and snuff films. Everything else is game.
  • jimrthy... jgh57 2011/06/23 18:55:56
  • jimrthy... Scott ヶ... 2011/06/23 19:13:01
    jimrthy BN-0
    Where do you draw the line about illegal content? The US government's taking down sites that have links to other sites that have pir8'd content. Or sites the RIAA tells them has illegal content, even when it turns out they were actually marketing sites for different record companies.

    As for the terrorist sites...these days, every time the government wants to oppress someone, they label him a terrorist. Hack a website? Terrorist. Spill some inconvenient government secrets? Terrorist. Stockpile food? Terrorist.

    http://www.networkworld.com/c...

    This was sort of inevitable after we were stupid and cowardly enough to accept the Patriot Act.

    Sites that tell how to make home-made bombs...really should be protected by both the 1st and 2nd Amendments. We are supposed to be better armed than the military, much less the police.
  • T. James H Scott ヶ... 2011/06/23 21:04:31
  • Beccy 2011/06/23 18:00:11
    No
    Beccy
    +2
    People have the right to know what is going on
  • jimrthy... Beccy 2011/06/23 18:46:39
    jimrthy BN-0
    +1
    Why start now?
  • Scott ヶ... Beccy 2011/06/23 18:52:57
    Scott ヶBrony Of PHAETヶ
    +1
    Ignorance is bliss, and it is a fact that the general public like to feel this bliss.
  • Thor American EXPAT n New G... 2011/06/23 17:56:32
    No
    Thor American EXPAT n New Guinea
    +4
    Control the flow of Information control the masses.
  • BUCCANEER~POTL~PWCM~JLA 2011/06/23 17:55:27 (edited)
    No
    BUCCANEER~POTL~PWCM~JLA
    +2
    I wouldn't put anything past our mussie and euro loving scumbags bunch of gutless cowards and traitors
  • gone i guess 2011/06/23 17:54:12
    No
    gone i guess
    +1
    noo way
  • DavidK 2011/06/23 17:51:45
    No
    DavidK
    +1
    They shouldn't, but they do......
  • Bulldog 2011/06/23 17:44:04
    No
    Bulldog
    +3
    This is in England, where the rights of the people can be manipulated at will by a mere vote of the two houses in parliment. So if they really want to do that in England, technically, there is only the fear of not getting re-elected, that MIGHT stop them. Even then, if I recall correctly, the house of commons is elected, but the House of Lords is by birthright, appointment by royalty, or ecclesiastical postion.

    But that question here in America? Read the Constitution! (Its the doc limiting Goverment power)

    Look closely at the freedom of the press part, then look at the freedom of speach part. Go down a bit and notice some verbiage regarding the "Freedom to assemble" part.

    Notice that although the internet had not been invented yet, nobody worth 2 cents would argue that the internet is not the modern day press.

    Notice that although internet websites are not physical places where people come and exchange ideas using their freedom of speach, websites are a place on the Web where people can exchage ideas.

    Now call me a radical, but I fail to see how we can even ask this question in any seriousness?

    The answer to this question is NO! HELL NO! NOT ON MY LIFE NO!

    Just read the document and really pay attention to the words people, It is NOT THAT DIFFICULT! seriousness answer life read document pay attention people difficult
  • Katherine Bulldog 2011/06/24 02:08:51
    Katherine
    +1
    Buddy, I agree with the constitution part, but it's CONSTANTLY being broken.
  • This is W³ 2011/06/23 17:43:34
    No
    This is W³
    +1
    Unfortunately, we are heading down that path where other companies can block websites of their competitors from their subscribers. It all comes down over the failure to pass Net Neutrality.
  • Cordingly This is W³ 2011/06/23 17:57:05
    Cordingly
    Which is kind of funny, in a sad way, given how many people here were "anti" net neutrality when the issue came up.
  • This is W³ Cordingly 2011/06/23 18:06:11
    This is W³
    +1
    Yeah. We, as a country, never seem to mind shooting ourselves in the foot.
  • DANNY_B0i♛ 2011/06/23 17:38:00
    No
    DANNY_B0i♛
    +5
    HELL NO! What are we China? Just stop. The only thing they should block is child pornographic sites.
  • jimrthy... DANNY_B0i♛ 2011/06/23 18:44:32
    jimrthy BN-0
    +2
    Better to track the people who run and visit those sites and then keep a *very* close eye on them.
  • DANNY_B0i♛ jimrthy... 2011/06/24 01:50:22
    DANNY_B0i♛
    +1
    Thats what I mean.
  • Lennon 2011/06/23 17:35:53
    No
    Lennon
    +2
    Should the government wipe your arse?
  • Gabhain 2011/06/23 17:31:49
    Undecided
    Gabhain
    +2
    This is much too complicated for this venue.
  • Scott ヶ... Gabhain 2011/06/23 18:06:23
    Scott ヶBrony Of PHAETヶ
    +2
    Exactly.
  • Melizmatic 2011/06/23 17:30:22
  • 13_JunkyardDog 2011/06/23 17:21:33 (edited)
    No
    13_JunkyardDog
    +4
    No gov't in the internet

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