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Should Gender Reassignment Surgery Be Allowed for Inmates?

AdriHead 2012/09/17 22:19:25
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A judge is being both praised and condemned because of a landmark ruling in which he has ordered gender reassignment surgery to an inmate in Massachusetts. Roger Kosilek, who now goes by Michelle, was born male but has been taking hormone treatments and currently stays at an all-male prison.

Supporters say that the ruling is a great example of recognizing that the surgery is a legitimate treatment for gender-identity disorder while critics call it an abuse of taxpayer money. Do you think it's OK for inmates to get gender reassignment surgery with taxpayer dollars?

CBSNEWS.COM reports:
U.S. District Judge Mark Wolf ruled Tuesday in the case of Michelle Kosilek, who was born as a man but has received hormone treatments and lives as a woman in an all-male prison.
gender reassignment surgery

Read More: http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-57506606-50...

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  • Chukroast 2012/09/17 22:39:48
    No
    Chukroast
    +25
    Not only NO, but HELL NO. It's bad enough we taxpayers have to foot the bill for his/her food, clothing and shelter (and basic medical care), but it's beyond my understanding why any judge would rule that a felon's feelings are important enough to soak the taxpayers for a very expensive operation.

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  • Pronata... RawRsaurus 2012/12/11 05:13:10
    Pronatalist Pronatalist
    You sound confused.
  • RawRsaurus Pronata... 2012/12/11 17:00:00
    RawRsaurus
    If by confused you mean educated, sure.
  • Pronata... RawRsaurus 2012/12/11 17:34:47
    Pronatalist Pronatalist
    So you admit that you are an "educated idiot?" Becoming "learning disabled," as so many of today's intolerant liberals seem to have become, does NOT make the term "educated," seem very appealing. "Educated" these days, has become a very ambiguous and politicized word, that has been excessively divorced from concepts such as truth and critical thinking skills. Merely having a college degree, isn't anymore a very good measure of "smartness." What if much of what people learn is wrong? How do you test it or know?

    Surely you have heard the saying, "The road to hell is paved with good intentions (of mistaken and "educated" people?). Another version says it is paved with Democrats. But if destruction is brought by mistaken, arrogant, learning-disabled "educated" people, is having been "educated" by false propaganda lies, really any excuse for continually choosing the wrong, especially since God knows, or has sent people like me, to tell you or warn you better, of the error of your wicked ways?

    Do you think you can tell lies, perhaps based upon your false "education," saying "I didn't know any better," on God's Judgement Day, to the sovereign God who knows all, who knows even your "secret" thoughts and motives? Or do you think you might need a better legal defense, more rooted in truth then?
  • RawRsaurus Pronata... 2012/12/11 19:20:22
    RawRsaurus
    That was a lengthy diatribe which ultimately served no purpose. Apologies if science, specifically biology, befuddles you. We are well on our way to proving circumstances such as homosexuality and transsexualism are both biological AND environmental. You can latch on to your petty religious doctrine argument, but it will will not be able to hold its own against scientific discovery.
  • Pronata... RawRsaurus 2012/12/12 04:48:03
    Pronatalist Pronatalist
    So you admit that much of so-called "science," is actually politicized deceit?
  • RawRsaurus Pronata... 2012/12/12 16:27:12
    RawRsaurus
    You really are an obtuse one, aren't you? Nowhere in my post do I diminish science's value. You do realize tangible scientific data is deemed accurate/credible if numerous experiments reach the same or similar conclusions, right?
  • Pronata... RawRsaurus 2012/12/13 08:20:20
    Pronatalist Pronatalist
    So "science" is now determined by popular delusion? Even if said "experiments" aren't really done, rigged, or the results fudged for political reasons, or to justify Chicken Little "The sky is falling" phony "crisis" grants? You don't fool me. Why don't you be honest about your true motives? Why don't you tell us why you are afraid of the truth? Or perhaps, you scarcely understand science at all?
  • RawRsaurus Pronata... 2012/12/13 18:17:21
    RawRsaurus
    LOL! Science has always been deemed more credible if numerous studies have been done pertaining to one subject. Otherwise, we'd have people such as yourself constantly bitching about certain experiments being biased. Certainly hundreds of studies on being homosexual and transgender can't ALL be fabricated. You're simply delusional.
  • Pronata... RawRsaurus 2012/12/13 19:39:54 (edited)
    Pronatalist Pronatalist
    Do you really have no idea of the sick political games of phony "building consensus" crap, that goes on at "scientific" (or political) "climate conferences" and such? Why are "dissenting" viewpoints not invited? Here's your typical U.N. "population conference." Pretty much only leftist and big-government enviro-radical alarmists are invited, they have a phony and contrived conference and make a big show of finding "common ground" and "everybody agrees," sound bites are manufactured for a lazy and leftist news media to assist in spreading their evil anti-people and anti-tolerance deception and anti-progress NWO globalist agenda. The Catholics come in and crash the pathetic party over abortion being pushed, and it turns into yet another unproductive verbal slugfest that accomplishes nothing, other than pushing the relentless NWO globalist agenda. That's your highly politicized "scientific" method of "building consensus" based on little or no evidence, or evidence that actually leads to more pro-life or Creationist interpretations. How can you not know more of this phony and contrived process? Lots of people disagree, but their views are suppressed, for supposedly being "too religious" even when not, or whatever excuse a gullible and uninformed public might possibly fall for. Exp...
    Do you really have no idea of the sick political games of phony "building consensus" crap, that goes on at "scientific" (or political) "climate conferences" and such? Why are "dissenting" viewpoints not invited? Here's your typical U.N. "population conference." Pretty much only leftist and big-government enviro-radical alarmists are invited, they have a phony and contrived conference and make a big show of finding "common ground" and "everybody agrees," sound bites are manufactured for a lazy and leftist news media to assist in spreading their evil anti-people and anti-tolerance deception and anti-progress NWO globalist agenda. The Catholics come in and crash the pathetic party over abortion being pushed, and it turns into yet another unproductive verbal slugfest that accomplishes nothing, other than pushing the relentless NWO globalist agenda. That's your highly politicized "scientific" method of "building consensus" based on little or no evidence, or evidence that actually leads to more pro-life or Creationist interpretations. How can you not know more of this phony and contrived process? Lots of people disagree, but their views are suppressed, for supposedly being "too religious" even when not, or whatever excuse a gullible and uninformed public might possibly fall for. Experiments being biased? You don't say? I can't imagine an experiment being biased, when a result of "All is well," doesn't get your "climate change crisis" government grant to study this "non-crisis" renewed. "Mad scientists" are among the most wrong and biased people in the world, and many making bogus "environmental" or "scientific" claims, don't even have scientific credentials. What are Al Gore's credentials anyway? Radical? Corrupt politician? Filthy rich NWO elistist? How about "an inconvenient hypocrite," considering that his mansion(s) uses 20 times the energy of the typical American's home.
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  • RawRsaurus Pronata... 2012/12/13 20:15:34 (edited)
    RawRsaurus
    Their views aren't suppressed...what material are YOU reading? I read unbiased scholarly journals or articles such as CQ Researcher. Maybe you should read their article on being transgender. It may enlighten you a bit.

    Furthermore, WHY are you discussing Al Gore and global warming? This is about being TRANSGENDER.
  • Pronata... RawRsaurus 2012/12/17 03:08:35 (edited)
    Pronatalist Pronatalist
    Unbiased? Ha! And yet you spew BIASED claims? And how does one "be" transgender anyway? That is a behavior. Why are you being so deceitful as to try to trick me with your not-so-clever words? You think I haven't heard the bogus arguments before? Why did I mention liar All Gore? Similar patterns of deceit.
  • RawRsaurus Pronata... 2012/12/17 03:28:32
    RawRsaurus
    You come off as a paranoid schizophrenic with your outlandish conspiracy theories. You're either trans or you aren't. It's neither a behavior nor is it learned--it's a medical condition.

    Do you also think aliens are draining you of life via a device hidden under your soap dish? Richard Chase held similar delusions.

    Just saying you may want to tone down your "presentation." You're portraying yourself as someone who is mentally ill.
  • Pronata... RawRsaurus 2012/12/18 00:42:24
    Pronatalist Pronatalist
    I am not responsible for your wrong opinions.
  • RawRsaurus Pronata... 2012/12/18 02:04:36
    RawRsaurus
    "Wrong" and "opinion" don't coincide very often. Tell me, do you also believe dinosaurs never existed? Once again, science comes to the rescue! You're entirely too overconfident--you think you know more than you actually do.
  • Miss Fiona 2012/09/21 05:29:11
    No
    Miss Fiona
    +5
    I'm not interested in having my taxes pay for a criminal's folly in prison.
  • srini 2012/09/21 04:11:29
    No
    srini
    +1
    Although I'm willing to make a one-off exemption for Kosilek to be turned into a NO-gender!
  • Spooner 2012/09/21 04:00:58
    No
    Spooner
    +1
    Hmmm.........Gender reassignment so you can put the rapistd in womens prisons?
  • Oltom 2012/09/21 03:03:32
    No
    Oltom
    +1
    Give this poor excuse human being a dull razor blade and let him cut off his own penis!
  • RawRsaurus 2012/09/21 02:49:06
    Yes
    RawRsaurus
    With her own money, of course. If I have to do it, she's got to go the same route. There is no such thing as free SRS surgery.
  • Resp 2012/09/21 02:47:17
    Yes
    Resp
    +2
    It is hard to say. But that person is either a very ugly woman or a very pretty monster.
  • democoach 2012/09/21 02:45:11
    No
    democoach
    +2
    whats wrong with the body you have? God never makes a mistake, stop treating him like he does!
  • RawRsaurus democoach 2012/09/21 02:48:09
    RawRsaurus
    +2
    Read True Selves by Mildred Brown...then get back to us on that.
  • democoach RawRsaurus 2012/09/21 02:51:41
    democoach
    +1
    yor true self is either your A MALE OR A FEMALE! you get a grasp on reality then get back to us!
  • RawRsaurus democoach 2012/09/21 03:01:25
    RawRsaurus
    +1
    Obviously you don't understand what entails being transgender. It's even more obvious you are unwilling to educate yourself. Best of luck to you.
  • democoach RawRsaurus 2012/09/21 14:34:11
    democoach
    +1
    oh your talking abut the ones born weird that way! i understand now, still, doign that surgery is still telling God he made a mistake when he DIDN"T
  • RawRsaurus democoach 2012/09/21 14:40:47 (edited)
    RawRsaurus
    +1
    All transsexuals are born that way...some choose to hide it for fear of society rebuking them. Can you seriously imagine growing up having expectations within your specific gender role but identifying with the opposite sex? Been there, done that. It's pure hell pretending to be something you're not.

    Honestly, forget what you read about transsexuals being flamboyant and all the negative connotations associated with it. Transsexuals are not drag queens, nor are they simple cross-dressers. It is not a fetish or desire for attention. It's a biological variation in which the mind represents an individual of the opposite sex while the body does not.

    By the way, sex and gender are not the same thing. Sex is what we are biologically born with. Gender is a fluid concept and is something constructed in the mind.
  • democoach RawRsaurus 2012/09/21 14:55:14
    democoach
    gender definition: "The condition of being female or male; sex."

    dfinition of sex: "Either of the two divisions, designated female and male, of this classification."
    seem the same to me! maybe you should stop twisting meanings! and look in the dictionary before you speak
  • RawRsaurus democoach 2012/09/21 16:42:41 (edited)
    RawRsaurus
    +2
    "Sex refers to the biological and physiological characteristics, while gender refers to behaviors, roles, expectations, and activities in society.

    Sex refers to male or female, while gender refers to masculine or feminine."

    Ahem. Maybe it is you who should take to educating.

    http://www.apa.org/topics/sex...

    Learn a little before hurling insults and looking foolish.
  • democoach RawRsaurus 2012/09/21 17:28:05
    democoach
    dictionary definiton don't lie i copied and pasted from the dictionary!
    if you mean transgender as a male acting like a female? he probably was abused and now is confused! a boy is a boy! or like new types of of education designed to confuse kids! yeah in some schools they make the kids question their gender, its wrong! boys are boys girls are girls! it always has been taht way, well until weridos like you came around! and somehow got control of society! ITS SICK




    according to the merriam webster dictionary gender is refered to as either MALE or FEMALE! your the one twisting meanings if you say otherwise!
  • RawRsaurus democoach 2012/09/22 00:10:26
    RawRsaurus
    Enjoy your ignorance.
  • democoach RawRsaurus 2012/09/22 03:50:50
    democoach
    well your calling the dictionary ignorant, IGNORANT!
  • RawRsaurus democoach 2012/09/22 18:11:08
  • democoach RawRsaurus 2012/09/22 18:19:28
    democoach
    except science changes meanings and always flip flop on issues depending on who is the highest bidder, so i don;t give a dang about you and your clown scientists!
  • RawRsaurus democoach 2012/09/22 18:31:22
    RawRsaurus
    There is NO flip-flopping on transgender studies. Ever since it was ruled being transgender is NOT a mental illness, the definitions have remained static since the damn 60's-70's. Just admit you don't know anything about it and refuse to take anything other than your grossly misinformed opinion into consideration. Then move on.
  • democoach RawRsaurus 2012/09/22 18:35:31
    democoach
    transgender is about someone who is mislead to believe they are a girl when in fact they are a boy! or vice versa!

    "a person appearing or attempting to be a member of the opposite sex, as a transsexual or habitual cross-dresser."
    thats the definition of transgender! a boy is still a boy! even if he thinks he's a girl, when someone starts acting like that, you need to end that train of thought, especially kids!
  • RawRsaurus democoach 2012/09/22 18:50:24
  • democoach RawRsaurus 2012/09/22 18:56:22
    democoach
    yep your weird, dictionaries don't lie buddy! scientists do!

    btw sexual abuse on a child migth prevent complete brain growth! a kid migth not even be knowing what he/she is talking about when they say they want to be of opposite sex! you need to correct that! or they might grow up confused and become homsexual!
  • RawRsaurus democoach 2012/09/22 19:35:10
    RawRsaurus
    Firstly, true science is unbiased. For the nth time, you're wrong.

    Lastly, I just looked up "migth" on dictionary.com and couldn't find an entry for it. Maybe you could help with that one.
  • democoach RawRsaurus 2012/09/22 20:29:13
    democoach
    you have just proven there is no "true sicence" because no tone person on the face of the earth is completely unbiase! we all have a bias, you, me, the top scientist we all have it! you seem to still have some issues to sort out!
  • RawRsaurus democoach 2012/09/22 20:32:13
    RawRsaurus
    A credible scientist never allows bias. That is what a damn control group is for. It isolates the independent and dependent variables. Go back to school, kid.

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