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Should Gabrielle Giffords Lose her House Seat?

StarrGazerr 2011/01/18 00:28:42
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Everyone in this country, whether Liberal or Conservative, is united in our hopes for a full and speedy recovery by shooting victim Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords. Despite her remarkable progress so far, however, under Arizona law it is possible that she could be removed from office if she cannot discharge her duties within the next few months. On the one hand, it is not nonsensical to make sure that every American has a representative in Congress. But on the other hand, given the circumstances involved, I doubt that many Arizonans would feel deprived if Ms. Giffords has a little more time to recover. What do you think?

{{Note - I am NOT suggesting that anyone is advocating this at present.}}

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Excerpt from the article:

Giffords may lose seat under Arizona rules: report
By Daniel Tencer
Monday, January 17th, 2011 -- 6:37 pm

Nine days after sustaining a gunshot wound to the head, Rep. Gabrielle Giffords (D-AZ) is once again able to smile, doctors reported Monday, but the three-term representative could find herself out of the US House, thanks to a little-used Arizona regulation.

According to a state statute unearthed by the Washington Post, a House representative is deemed to have "vacated" their office if the person holding that office ceases "to discharge the duties of office for the period of three consecutive months."

If Giffords is found to have "vacated" her office, Arizona Governor Jan Brewer is required under state law to call a special election to replace the representative.

Even though doctors appear stunned at the pace of Giffords' recovery, saying that she may leave hospital in "a matter of days to weeks," it's unlikely she would be able to resume the full duties of her office within 90 days of the shooting.

As the Post reports, it's not entirely clear from the statute's wording what would be defined as failing to "discharge the duties of office" -- whether, for instance, not voting in the House for three months would meet the requirement.

But individuals close to Gov. Brewer -- who was made aware of the statute on Monday -- suggested the Republican would not look to replace Giffords in a special election.

"We've deemed it to be far too early and entirely inappropriate to speculate, analyze, consider," deputy chief of staff Paul Senseman stated.


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  • Arizona1950 2011/01/18 00:50:34 (edited)
    No, let her keep her seat.
    Arizona1950
    +4
    Unless she is incapable of continuing her duties after she has recovered there is no reason for her not to keep her seat. She's on medical leave ... give her time to heal.

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  • sam 2011/04/05 21:37:39
    Yes, she should step down.
    sam
    she has been shot and will never be the same. if we amend the law fine but if she doent not hold it for 3 consecutive months then she needs to step down and needs to be a special election to be held
  • Giantfan 2011/01/19 18:11:14
    No, let her keep her seat.
    Giantfan
    If it is seen after a little time she can't do the job then yes they should have a special election.
  • Tea in the Harbor 2011/01/19 03:45:51
    No, let her keep her seat.
    Tea in the Harbor
    +2
    Of course she should keep her seat, and if what I've read about her positions and dedication to her job is accurate when she is fully recovered there's a certain old man in the Senate she should consider displacing. :)
  • moomoof 2011/01/18 19:28:01
    Undecided
    moomoof
    +1
    hmm i don't know i say give her time to recovery see from there

    i assume there will be someone in her place while she is recovering....i don't know
  • StarrGa... moomoof 2011/01/18 23:48:23
    StarrGazerr
    +2
    No one can "take the place" of a sitting member of Congress. While her staff can continue to do those things that don't require the Congressman (like correspondence, research, acting on laws already on the books, etc.) only an elected or appointed member of Congress has the authority to vote in Congress.

    But I do agree we should give her all the time she needs to recover.
  • moomoof StarrGa... 2011/01/18 23:50:53
    moomoof
    +1
    ok see i didn't know that
    so time will tell really
  • Carabella 2011/01/18 18:27:47
    No, let her keep her seat.
    Carabella
    +2
    It is entirely up to her as to whether or not her recovery impacts her position.
  • Lady Whitewolf 2011/01/18 10:18:50
    No, let her keep her seat.
    Lady Whitewolf
    +1
    NO. Just no.
  • just me 2011/01/18 05:30:00
    Undecided
    just me
    +1
    If she maintains full intellectual capability, there is no reason to vacate her seat.
  • Jackie O 2011/01/18 05:04:26
    No, let her keep her seat.
    Jackie O
    +2
    She's doing well and will leave the hospital in a few days. Her speech may be impacted but her brain is fine. She can do her job and to negate her role in Congress would not look good for Republicans.
  • jbg 2011/01/18 05:03:30
    Undecided
    jbg
    The post is wrong. This Arizona statute applies to state and local officials, not federal officials, such as Giffords. In fact, this statute never even mentions federal officials. In 1995, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled that states cannot impose limits such as these for members of Congress, since the U.S. House is the only body who can decide if a seat is vacant. If this did occur, then they would direct the governor to fill the vacancy, which by Arizona law would be filled by special primary and general elections... so Brewer would be unable to appoint anyone to this position. That said, Ms. Giffords has a long road to recovery head of her. She is doing extremely well considering what she has been thru, but she has at least of year of recovery and rehabilitation. Instead of the House declaring her seat vacant, I would imagine that once Giffords gets her tube removed and is able to speak, then she will probably step down to focus on recovery and have someone else focus on her district, so that once she has recovered, she may run again.
  • StarrGa... jbg 2011/01/18 11:37:31
    StarrGazerr
    I hope you're right about that.
  • sheratan 2011/01/18 04:19:03
    No, let her keep her seat.
    sheratan
    +2
    It would be obscene and disrespectful to remove her from office. I think, she should take the decision herself whether she would be able to meet her duties in 3 months time or not.
  • Lady Wh... sheratan 2011/01/18 10:19:20
    Lady Whitewolf
    That's fair!
  • Dan D 2011/01/18 04:09:46
    Undecided
    Dan D
    Is there any provision for an interim appointed by the governor? I don't think she should lose her seat, but the people of Arizona deserve representation during her convalescence, especially one that will likely take months.
  • littlebuffalo55TBA 2011/01/18 03:46:35
    No, let her keep her seat.
    littlebuffalo55TBA
    +1
    For now of course! I think at 60 days an evaluation should be made. If 90 days is the window then 60 is I think a good point to start making realistic decisions.

    My sincere hope is she will be able to discharge her duties and it would be a most welcome way to spit in the eye of those who would condone this kind of violence!
  • jubil8 BN-0 PON 2011/01/18 03:42:58 (edited)
    No, let her keep her seat.
    jubil8 BN-0 PON
    If she doesn't recover the use of her faculties, that would be a different issue. Otherwise, removing her would be adding insult to injury to such an extent that I personally would turn my back on AZ (and without me AZ would be devastated, just devastated).

    I'm looking forward to the day when Rep. Giffords returns to the House and a standing ovation. Let it be soon.
  • CHUCK 2011/01/18 03:11:32 (edited)
    No, let her keep her seat.
    CHUCK
    +2
    GIVE THE LADY A BREAK..ITS ONLY BEEN A WEEK..

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  • Lady Wh... CHUCK 2011/01/18 10:19:37
    Lady Whitewolf
    +1
    agreed!
  • Philo-Publius 2011/01/18 03:04:51
    Undecided
    Philo-Publius
    +1
    Of course she shouldn't, it isn't fair to her, and I highly doubt she will ultimately lose it - I doubt the 90 day rule would be enforced, due to circumstances, and likelihood of rapid return thereafter - but 641,000 citizens of Arizona are entitled to a representative.

    I think Brewer calling a special election on day 91 would be going against the intent of the law, especially in light of its ambiguous language, but at some point, if she cannot fulfill her duties (and we hope she can), that would be something the governor would be right to look at... hmmm.
  • littleb... Philo-P... 2011/01/18 03:35:44
    littlebuffalo55TBA
    +1
    Well put Philo!
  • Gloria 2011/01/18 02:27:07
    No, let her keep her seat.
    Gloria
    +1
    Representative Giffords is responding to her care providers. Why should she give up her seat?
  • Emma 2011/01/18 01:36:00
    No, let her keep her seat.
    Emma
    +2
    She should keep her seat until her doctors determine whether her injuries will prevent her from being unable to perform her duties. I have no doubt Jan Brewer can hardly wait to fill Congresswoman Giffords' seat with a right wing kook to her liking.
  • betz 2011/01/18 01:08:42 (edited)
    No, let her keep her seat.
    betz
    +3
    Good heavens give the Congresswoamn some time. It would be my guess she will spend a significant amount of time in rehab but that doesn't mean she couldn't perform her duties. This is one conservative who is very impressed with this lady. Keep her in as I'd like to see her in action.
  • StarrGa... betz 2011/01/18 01:35:34
    StarrGazerr
    +3
    I totally agree. As I said above, I don't think anyone is advocating removing her, at least for now. Probably the best solution would be to let her decide for herself if she wants to step down.
  • betz StarrGa... 2011/01/18 01:40:56
    betz
    +1
    Yep she and only she should decide that. She certainly is one strong female. I like that. :) We can only hope we will continue to hear positive updates about her condition and progress.
  • ὤTṻnde΄ӂ 2011/01/18 00:53:51
    No, let her keep her seat.
    ὤTṻnde΄ӂ
    +1
    Only AZ has some draconian law about someone who is out of Congress (not discharging his/her duties) for 90 days. I think there should be a Democratic stand-in and the seat should stay open for her to come back. She's doing extremely well.
  • StarrGa... ὤTṻnde΄ӂ 2011/01/18 01:06:36
    StarrGazerr
    +2
    I have to say that on this one I can't automatically criticize the law. Every American is entitled to representation in Congress. Suppose God forbid Ms. Giffords was in a coma for the next year. I don't think it's horrible that there is a contingency plan for such a horrible situation. Congress itself has no mechanism for dealing with an incapacitated member, so it's not that unreasonable that states might choose to prepare for the worst.
  • ὤTṻnde΄ӂ StarrGa... 2011/01/18 01:44:45
    ὤTṻnde΄ӂ
    Leave it to Brewer to just appoint a republican to fill it until there can be an election (if Giffords doesn't recover quickly enough.) I heard today that she gave her husband about a 10 minute neck rub. When that trachea comes out, we'll know if she can talk, but she may be released within days.
  • littleb... ὤTṻnde΄ӂ 2011/01/18 03:36:50
    littlebuffalo55TBA
    Brewer did not write the law!
  • ὤTṻnde΄ӂ littleb... 2011/01/18 19:28:50
    ὤTṻnde΄ӂ
    Duh...but if she sees a way to get a republican in there, she will definitely do it.
  • littleb... ὤTṻnde΄ӂ 2011/01/18 20:33:53
    littlebuffalo55TBA
    And a Democrat would do the very same thing! A la Teddy Kennedy!

    Duh!
  • StarrGa... littleb... 2011/01/18 23:53:28
    StarrGazerr
    Senator Kennedy died, in case you haven't been following the news. No one decided to remove him from office.
  • littleb... StarrGa... 2011/01/19 00:01:03
    littlebuffalo55TBA
    The premise is that for some reason Brewer would act any differntly than when Ted Kennedy asked for laws already written to be changed so a Democrat would replace him. In case you had not heard.
  • StarrGa... littleb... 2011/01/19 00:08:01
    StarrGazerr
    +1
    Asking for a law to be changed is not the same as acting on an obscure law already on the books. In order for Teddy's "request" to become law the Massachusetts legislature would have had to vote on it.

    To the extent that your post suggests that politicians have attempted to manipulate the membership of Congress I do agree with you, and I make no attempt to claim that it's only one party that does it. But it's one thing to want to; it's another to single handedly do it.
  • littleb... StarrGa... 2011/01/19 00:14:19
    littlebuffalo55TBA
    And so far this is no-more than a partyline accusation as Jan Brewer has not asked to utilize it.

    Would it not be remiss of her as governor not to look at legal options available?

    The post above is exactly that and very consistent!
  • StarrGa... ὤTṻnde΄ӂ 2011/01/18 23:52:39
    StarrGazerr
    +1
    Governors don't have the authority to appoint a replacement for a Member of the House. They can usually do it for Senators (depending on state law - some states require an election) but Representatives can only be replaced by election. If Brewer decided to remove Giffords (which, I have to admit, she has never yet said she would), there would have to be a replacement election.
  • Arizona1950 2011/01/18 00:50:34 (edited)
    No, let her keep her seat.
    Arizona1950
    +4
    Unless she is incapable of continuing her duties after she has recovered there is no reason for her not to keep her seat. She's on medical leave ... give her time to heal.
  • StarrGa... Arizona... 2011/01/18 00:52:15
    StarrGazerr
    +2
    Agreed.
  • Arizona... StarrGa... 2011/01/18 02:28:24
    Arizona1950
    Watch out! Agreeing like this might be catchy ... people might talk! lol

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